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AIBU Would you be worried about this friendship?

335 replies

Lucyofthemichealcar · 13/05/2022 16:43

Background:
Married for 11 years and together for 17.
H very outgoing, fun loving and flirty but never had concerns. Similar personality to me, so a bit of flirty banter is fine so long as we both respect the line.
Since married neither or us go out as much and since kids deffo not.
Both of us have male and female friends. Being friendly with a woman doesn't bother me but the dynamic between these two has always seemed different but cannot put finger on it.

H and his work friend.
I would say she definitely fits into my H's 'type'. They teach together. They are in different departments so it does not sound as if they speak every day or every week but they do seem to catch up face to face at lunch or over messenger if it has been a few weeks. She goes back to the US every summer and as far as I know they go weeks then with no communication so they are not always in each others pockets but it seems in the school they are very much viewed as a pair, so get paired up to chaperone school events and over the years they have organised several trips together as they both say if they are stuck with colleagues for a week it needs to be someone they get on with and like and apparently because they trust each other to organise and not mess things up when carting around 50 odd teenagers. Looked at messages from her when I was in the throes of pregnant paranoia and the chat is friendly but mundane. Not even flirtatious. She asks after me and H about her partner. The tone is how he talks to all his other friends. We have had her round for dinner and she has also done the same and we have went for drinks together. All very nice and above board. Done the odd favour like making us a whole load of meals when our kitchen was getting renovated and doing a food shop when we had covid or helping with looking after cat when we were away but I just can't shake a feeling she does it all to look good to H. She is very American and brings round baking, goes all out at christmas and since I have known her has always given me and the kids gifts (all our birthdays are in Late Nov/Dec so they are birthday/xmas gifts). Her and H also always exchange birthday gifts but they are stupid cheap items as part of a running joke from work. She seems keen to be friends with me too and suggested going for a wine or doing a gym class but as I said something always seems off and never felt entirely comfortable around her in the 9 years her and H have been friendly.
She has a BF of 12 years but they have never married and don't cohabit which seems strange.

Why am I concerned?
Aside from being pregnant and crying at the drop of a hat, what has made me question it all is that three weeks ago my H stayed at her house overnight. She got a phonecall at work to say her mum had passed back in the states. Her partner was away on business and she had a meltdown at work. H brought her back to ours but she said she wanted to be at home, pack and get the first flight home. H took her back to her place. He came back after dropping her off and asked me if I minded him staying to keep an eye but i think he had pretty much made up his mind while I said yes or not. He stayed the night in her spare room and then drove her to the airport at 3am. At the time I did feel like she could have reChed out to other friends but i suppose if that was me I would be all over the place too. She and her BF came by a few days ago with a restaurant voucher for the two of us to say thank you for being there for us. We have two kids and I am seven months pregnant with our third. Is it hormones or should I be worried?

H sensed I wasn't okay when he came back after dropping her off and I said how I felt and he said there was and never had been anything between them that I could check through messages etc if it put my mind at ease but I don't know. Have asked friends in the past and they have said it is a bit of an unusal one but probably because as a society we generally are uspicious of male female friendships unless they have been sustained through childhood and adolescence.

AIBU?

OP posts:
takemetomars · 13/05/2022 17:08

Regardless of what is happening between the 2 of them, it's bothering you so talk to him about it. What you describe would make me very unhappy if it were me

Sazdun · 13/05/2022 17:53

Go with your gut. Trust me and speak out now as @takemetomars said.

Mistystar99 · 13/05/2022 18:15

No. I would not be worried. Sounds like they are just good colleagues and friends. They would be a lot more sneaky if anything affair-wise was going on. Her and her DP took you out for dinner to say thank you both for your support? Your DH and her would have to be real bastards to do that to you and her DP.
Chill your boots. Sometimes people are just friends.

motherofchihuahuas · 13/05/2022 18:18

I also don't think you have anything to worry about either. They just seem like good friends is all.

Afrodizzyak · 13/05/2022 18:18

She seems to be just a good friend.

Greensleeves · 13/05/2022 18:21

It sounds as though they are close friends and work colleagues, but she clearly would like it to be more like family friends, if you weren't holding her at arm's length. If you don't warm to her and don't want that, it's fine, but she clearly does want that.

I probably wouldn't adore the situation, because I am naturally a bit territorial Grin but I would regard that as my problem, not theirs, given that there is no evidence that anything other than friendship is happening.

Takealoadoff · 13/05/2022 18:21

I really wouldn't be worried. She's an expat and probably doesn't have a lot of friends here. I suspect she's just being over generous because she's a bit lonely. I don't think your dh should have stayed at hers though.

Besttobe8001 · 13/05/2022 18:24

No her mum died. I'd be in absolute pieces if my mum died, not able to get myself together to go to the airport etc. I'd be really upset if someone I classed as a friend at that time didn't step up.

It's not weird to not live with or marry a boyfriend either, and it doesn't mean she's more likely to sleep with your husband.

Cocopopsss · 13/05/2022 18:41

I would say they are good friends and that is all. Your DH was supporting her through a tough time when her mum passed away and BF was away.

It’s best you talk to DH about how you feel
otherwise these feelings will eat you up.

2bazookas · 13/05/2022 18:42

With her mother dead, partner away, and facing a 3 am transatlantic flight I really really don't think she was in the mood for a quick shag.

Your husband sounds lovely.

How he took care of a bereaved friend in shock ( and came home to consult you) is a great credit to him and your marriage.

JustALittleHelpPlease · 13/05/2022 18:52

It sounds to me like you have an excellent marriage together. What you have said here doesn't fly any flags for me to be honest.

Honeyroar · 13/05/2022 22:20

I wouldn’t be worried either. They just sound like good friends. He initially brought her to stay with you when her mum died, but she (understandably) wanted to be at home. He just looked after her and kept her company until her early flight. She’d hardly be thinking about shagging someone’s husband when her mother has just died!! He sounds like a good bloke. But talk to him. Tell him you’re feeling upset. Let him reassure you.

Motheranddaughtertotwo · 13/05/2022 22:35

She’s trying to befriend you too, I would take her up on her offer to do something together, you might end up really liking her. I wouldn’t be suspicious based on what you’ve said.

RitaFaircloughsWig · 13/05/2022 22:42

I think if she is American then this is all just that OTT side of her and you have no reason to worry. However if it is too much for you then perhaps start to withdraw as a couple somewhat on the social scene - you have the perfect excuse .

Neverreturntoathread · 13/05/2022 22:50

It wouldn’t worry me. If she was single and flirty and trying to exclude you from their friendship that would be different, but it sounds like she’s friendly to you as well. He needs friends at work and it sounds like a healthy friendship to me 🤷‍♀️ Staying over at hers was a bit weird but bereavement is a weird thing.

LiloLillie · 13/05/2022 22:56

I would not be happy with that. Drop her home? Yes. Stay for a cup of tea while she calms down? Yes. Stay overnight? No. Comfort her all night? When she's needy and emotional? No. Your partner can't be the person she relies on most in the world. You have that role. Being a good friend is one thing, that's overstepping.

LiloLillie · 13/05/2022 22:58

As his pregnant wife, you should be his absolute priority.

Besttobe8001 · 13/05/2022 23:24

LiloLillie · 13/05/2022 22:58

As his pregnant wife, you should be his absolute priority.

For a pregnant wife who was absolutely fine, in no danger, safe and at home, he should abandon a close friend? Would you all be saying the same if the friend was male?

Besttobe8001 · 13/05/2022 23:25

It doesn't really sound like he stayed all night, it sounds like he stayed til 3am and drove her to the airport. Personally I'd never let a friend drive bereaved and in shock to the airport at 3am

youvegottenminuteslynn · 13/05/2022 23:29

He didn't stay the night, he stayed up until 3am to take her to the airport safely.

It doesn't sound like anything to worry about at all IMO, he sounds like a genuine and kind friend to her and she sounds like she is sensitive to any potential issues by asking after you and also offering the opportunity to be mates too.

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olympicsrock · 13/05/2022 23:29

It sounds like DH is a good guy. His support for a friend whose Mother had died was very normal. Perhaps this is hormones talking.

Lucyofthemichealcar · 13/05/2022 23:56

Thank you for the feedback. I think a large part is hormones. I just cannot shake this feeling of there being more. I suppose I thought my H would be very apologetic when I told him how I felt especially as she is a woman but as there is nothing going on, he found my reaction a bit odd and told me there was no reason to feel jealous or put out.
Which i suppose highlights it very much is friendship. He said it was okay if I didn't want to be friends with her but he is and that there are some of my friends he isn't keen on but his not wanting to socialise with them is no reason for me to stop. If it was a man I probably would not be thinking like this, it is due to her being an unmarried pretty woman.

I'm sure she wasn't thinking about doing anything with my H the night her mum died but his protectiveness seemed a bit much for a work friend and had me worried he is attracted to her in some way. Her card thanking us for being there on the worst days of her life also came across as being overly dramatic. She is an only child so I don't want this event to result in her becoming reliant on my H or using it as justification to be super involved with us in 'thanks' for our helping her.

OP posts:
montysma1 · 14/05/2022 00:12

An only child in a different country suddenly losing a parent .....and you consider thst her describing it as the worst day of her life is overly dramatic???

No love, its you thats overly dramatic. And you sound horrible.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 14/05/2022 00:23

Her card thanking us for being there on the worst days of her life also came across as being overly dramatic. Mate, her mum died. That's literally one of the worst days of almost everyone's life. What a horrible thing to say about her thanking you and him for supporting her through it. Jesus.

LittleMissMoggy · 14/05/2022 00:29

Sorry op but you are the dramatic one here. Have you ever lost a parent? It's fucking terrible. Your DH sounds lovely.