Daughter suddenly wants abortion

[Louismayy]

Dd ex has gotten into her head regarding abortion… she’s officially 18 weeks and has doubts about the pregnancy but has also shown much interest into being the best mum she can possibly be she’s about to turn 22 so she’s really young and still has a whole life ahead of her. She was having this mentality of I can do everything I’ll meet a guy who wants both of us now she thinks she’s at a massive disadvantage after speaking to him she seems to think she will only meet less good quality men… I don’t know what he’s done to her but she wants a termination. He in my opinion is a narcissist and very manipulative individual who is using her fears and insecurities against her. He was very verbally abusive to her he was also very good at playing mind games with her and getting every penny he can from her… her situation isn’t ideal with five of us living in a two bedroom house and now to be six but we had sorted how we could make the situation work. She’s now speaking on it’s going to ruin her education and she won’t have a penny to herself. It was just this sudden click after him speaking to her for over two hours and I can’t help but feel he’s done something to her head.

@PlainJaneEyre

In case anyone is questioning if children can still be born alive and left to die at 18 weeks with an abortion. This is just last year in the Uk

www.google.com/search?q=loran+denison&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB876GB876&oq=loran+denison&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30.2379j0j4&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

I am pro life where the baby is healthy and where the parents of the child were given adequate opportunity to protect themselves from falling pregnant in the first place and chose to do nothing especially at such a late term.

So you want to punish women for making choices you don't like.

@codeVeronica

I am pro life where the baby is healthy and where the parents of the child were given adequate opportunity to protect themselves from falling pregnant in the first place and chose to do nothing especially at such a late term.

So you want to punish women for making choices you don't like.

@codeVeronica

When did people stop being responsible for their actions?

@codeVeronica

You’re literally saying... my bad, I didn’t protect myself/ I’m not ready for this/ I changed my mind and you’re killing a child.... Let’s just take a human life, one that is totally healthy because I’m not prepared to follow through with my actions now.

[quote Knockdown43]@codeVeronica

You’re literally saying... my bad, I didn’t protect myself/ I’m not ready for this/ I changed my mind and you’re killing a child.... Let’s just take a human life, one that is totally healthy because I’m not prepared to follow through with my actions now.[/quote]
Not killing a child, having a perfectly legal medical procedure.

And how do we register on motivations? How do we prove that someone didn't used contraception, or wasn't coerced to not use contraception?

And if you believe that it is killing a child, why is that okay under "extenuating circumstances" (whatever that means)? It's the same procedure with the same results.

[quote Knockdown43]@codeVeronica

You’re literally saying... my bad, I didn’t protect myself/ I’m not ready for this/ I changed my mind and you’re killing a child.... Let’s just take a human life, one that is totally healthy because I’m not prepared to follow through with my actions now.[/quote]
By all means live by that creed if you so wish. You have no right to stop others from doing what is best for them for whatever reason.

Just tiptoeing in to ask everyone to please post within our Talk Guidelines.

We've made a fair few deletions already so can we ask everyone to do their utmost to be civil.

[quote Knockdown43]@codeVeronica

You’re literally saying... my bad, I didn’t protect myself/ I’m not ready for this/ I changed my mind and you’re killing a child.... Let’s just take a human life, one that is totally healthy because I’m not prepared to follow through with my actions now.[/quote]
‘Follow through with their actions’ - the assumption being that a pregnancy will obviously be continued. Well, no. Abortion has always been an option women have utilized when faced with unwanted pregnancy. Legality doesn’t actually change that.

You may not like the particular form of dealing with the consequences of an action that abortion is, but that’s irrelevant.

And no one denied that some are, unintentionally, born alive following abortion (as opposed to the intentional live births). What has been refuted is your claim that it is a common, likely, occurrence. It’s not at all.

You may have encountered a woman that regretted her late term abortion. There’s at least one on this thread that’s had one, and doesn’t regret it. You can’t predict regret in someone else, and you especially can’t predict if for someone you’ve never met or spoken. Either way, potential for regret or not, it is still her choice and she should be supported in making the right decision for herself, without manipulation one way or the other.

And you can call me ‘pro death’ if you like, it really doesn’t bother me. The irony is, is that significantly less injuries and deaths occur when abortion legal. Criminalizing abortion doesn’t stop it, it never has. All it does is force women to take matters into their own hands.

“Unsafe abortion is a leading – but preventable – cause of maternal deaths and morbidities. It can lead to physical and mental health complications and social and financial burdens for women, communities and health systems”

www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion

That’s your ‘pro life’ reality, so yes, I’ll happily take your ‘pro death’ label over the alternative.

[quote Knockdown43]@PlainJaneEyre

In case anyone is questioning if children can still be born alive and left to die at 18 weeks with an abortion. This is just last year in the Uk

www.google.com/search?q=loran+denison&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB876GB876&oq=loran+denison&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30.2379j0j4&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8[/quote]
Have you even read that, she was fully informed about what would happen.

One story in a newspaper doesn't equate to it being 'likely' nor is it a peer reviewed paper either.

Again, your stance is very clear, you want pregnancy and childbirth to be used as a punishment for any perceived moral failings.

Typical forced birther.

As early as possible, as late as necessary for what ever reason

Let’s not give pro-lifers the platform or opportunity to argue back and forth. We live in a country where their anti-feminist agenda does not affect our laws or women’s choices. OP’s daughter has her choice whether or not pro-lifers want her to or not - they can be angry and bitter about that if they choose to.

Either way, potential for regret or not, it is still her choice and she should be supported in making the right decision for herself, without manipulation one way or the other.

And you can call me ‘pro death’ if you like, it really doesn’t bother me. The irony is, is that significantly less injuries and deaths occur when abortion legal. Criminalizing abortion doesn’t stop it, it never has. All it does is force women to take matters into their own hands

Well said, @whumpthereitis

She is perfectly entitled to have a termination
Her decision
She deserves lots of support to make the correct decision for her