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Dating thread 225: Roses are red, violets are blue

998 replies

ButterflyOfShay · 07/02/2022 07:21

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item

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HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 10/03/2022 10:26

@ibelieveinmirrorballs
Yeah, bit of slow burn with this one, the 1st date wasn’t v good, and I almost canned it, afterwards, but things are looking up, feeling quite positive today, looking fwd to tomorrow now

ibelieveinmirrorballs · 10/03/2022 11:30

@Thisisworsethananticpated

ibelieveinmirrorballs

I like mr filthy as a concept and idea
Let’s see if you can fwb it with him

Do it for us all 😂

Yes am mulling it over. He lives in west London (quite far from me) and has young kids - we’re quite different but he’s massively fit and as aforementioned rather filthy so… 🤷🏻‍♀️😬
HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 10/03/2022 12:18

I’ve joined Tinder and POF this week but not sure I’m a fan of either. Tinder was full of “hey how are you” over and over and over again which I just find draining to keep replying to. On POF I got over 100 messages within the first 8 hours yesterday and over 50 today. No vile messages or anything but the vast majority of the men were pretty grim. I find it quite hard having to sift through them all but I’m not sure how else I’ll meet someone. Kind of past the nightclub phase now and I only work with woman 😂. Trying not to quite before I’ve even started but does anyone have any opinions on better apps etc? Or are they all pretty much the same? Thanks!

I always find it fascinating reading a female experience of OLD, as an average looking man, I used to get no messages and very few like or matches, had to send out lots of messages to even get a couple of conversations going completely the opposite of the above.
But I do think the OLD is a pretty poor return on effort for most average men (not “massively fit guys “ ) and we would have more luck In real life

Wolfie11 · 10/03/2022 14:27

Hi @WeWantTheFinestWines! A bit meh really is a great way to describe it. I’ve paused both Tinder and POF for now. I did put a little detail in my profile and mentioned I have a child and that I’m a massive geek who loves things like Harry Potter, LOTR etc - I thought that would put some people off but I don’t even think they’re reading it, just looking at the photos. I even put up a no make up, sweaty hill walk photo! Fish photo is a great idea 😂.

I’ve heard good things about Bumble so I might scrap POF and Tinder and restart on there. I’m only really looking for a FWB style arrangement for now with someone who’s not a weirdo or a creep! I thought that would be really easy to find but now I think I’m being a bit naive!

Wolfie11 · 10/03/2022 14:32

@Thisisworsethananticpated I think I’ll give Hinge and Bumble a try and see if I feel less overwhelmed on there. I totally agree, far too many likes and chats and it does just all end up feeling pretty grim and meh!

Thisisworsethananticpated · 10/03/2022 14:38

ibelieveinmirrorballs
Hmm that’s near me
Send him my way when your’e finished
Joke ! Really 😂
I’m far Too busy trying to not check messages from Balkan Baltic

Wolfie11 · 10/03/2022 14:40

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow Yeah that does sound like the complete opposite of my experience the past couple of days. To be fair though, a lot of the men I had messaging me on POF were below average looks, below average messages and would get very irate or needy when they didn’t get a reply and bombard me with messages. They definitely aren’t doing themselves any favours and actually seem to really dislike women. The vast majority of them also would never approach me in real life so I don’t know why they think they would have a better chance online. Think men who are a good 4 inches shorter than me or 20 years older but pretending they’re younger than they are 🤦🏼‍♀️.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 10/03/2022 15:05

@Wolfie11

Well I’m 6ft, so not met many women taller than me, but at 52, I’m probably at the older end of the age spectrum ..

Caramelblonde · 10/03/2022 17:13

@HowlongwillThisTakeNow Why are you so hung up on your age?You are able to meet and date so I don't think there is anything else going on in your mind. It's just really strange you are so obsessed you are old at 52!HmmIt's not old, by a long way.

ibelieveinmirrorballs · 10/03/2022 17:24

[quote Caramelblonde]@HowlongwillThisTakeNow Why are you so hung up on your age?You are able to meet and date so I don't think there is anything else going on in your mind. It's just really strange you are so obsessed you are old at 52!HmmIt's not old, by a long way.[/quote]
I agree - I’m 51 and really feel like I’m living my best years - it is very interesting that you’re so focused on being old @HowlongWillThisTakeNow - why do you think that is..? I tell you it’s harder being a woman of this age as so many similar aged (decent) men want to date younger women.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 10/03/2022 17:45

Im not bothered by my age, just put it to add context as I don’t want to be seen as chasing women 20 years younger than me, I want some my age who gets my Monty Python jokes and thinks 80’s music is still the best and remembers red phone boxes etc.
Miss horse is 50 (I think), I sent her something the other day the someone under about 35 wouldn’t understand or find funny

20 years older but pretending they’re younger than they are

ButterflyOfShay · 10/03/2022 19:03

@Thisisworsethananticpated

ibelieveinmirrorballs

I like mr filthy as a concept and idea
Let’s see if you can fwb it with him

Do it for us all 😂

Mr Filthy 🤣🤣 great name for a promising iron!! 😬
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Thisisworsethananticpated · 10/03/2022 19:08

HowlongWillThisTakeNow
Your not old !
That said you mentioned some health problems in an earlier post , maybe your fatigue makes you feel older
Check it out ?
I’m 48 and I don’t feel old
Stressed yes
Old no

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 10/03/2022 20:03

Can any horse ppl tell me if this a horse or a pony or donkey or some other horse breed ?

DdraigGoch · 11/03/2022 00:09

@Wolfie11

Hi *@WeWantTheFinestWines*! A bit meh really is a great way to describe it. I’ve paused both Tinder and POF for now. I did put a little detail in my profile and mentioned I have a child and that I’m a massive geek who loves things like Harry Potter, LOTR etc - I thought that would put some people off but I don’t even think they’re reading it, just looking at the photos. I even put up a no make up, sweaty hill walk photo! Fish photo is a great idea 😂.

I’ve heard good things about Bumble so I might scrap POF and Tinder and restart on there. I’m only really looking for a FWB style arrangement for now with someone who’s not a weirdo or a creep! I thought that would be really easy to find but now I think I’m being a bit naive!

Own your interests. There's no use pretending to follow the crowd in order to attract someone who - after three weeks of messaging - will turn out to be incompatible with you, when someone who might share your interests (or even have different, but not-incompatible interests) would otherwise have just skipped past you. No point wasting yours or their time.

Personally a HP fan would have been a reason to think about swiping right. I'm not into LOTR but Shore's soundtrack is an incredible suite so I could enjoy it in my own way (see what I mean about different, but not-incompatible interests).

As for sweaty hillwalking photos, I can assure you that they are much more likely to get a right swipe from me than the reams of caked-on make up pouting selfies I swiped left on this evening. Not everyone is after the wannabe Kim Kardashians. I've found myself swiping right on some of the influencer-type profiles, inexplicably matching, suddenly realising "What did I swipe right here for? We've nothing apparently in common", and not messaging.

So own your interests, rather than concealing them because of what you think someone wants to be reading.

I even saw a twentysomething woman's profile which said something along the lines of "I'm in recovery, I don't mind if you drink but if you're always clubbing then I'm probably not for you". Half of me was feeling impressed at her honesty and courage, the other half was thinking "that's a relief, people whose lives revolve around getting whammed on a Saturday night bore me shitless so this could work".

Bumble seems to attract a better clientele than Tinder. I can also recommend Hinge for quality over quantity.

I tried out a newish app called "Turnup" which focuses on music preferences. Thinking about it, music preferences are a bigger deal than any other interests because unless you're going to always wear headphones, you're going to end up inflicting your music choices upon each other, so it's important that you don't hate each other's music. It sounds like a good concept for a dating app. Trouble is that like all new dating apps it doesn't seem to have the numbers yet. Numbers are an issue for anyone living outside of a city, and it's been a reminder of just how niche my choices are among my age group.

With that in mind, my Tinder and Bumble profiles have now been updated to hint at my love of opera. Just in case someone picks up on it, without being too blatant as to put off people who may believe the popular misconceptions about elitism. I did once get chatting during an interval to an American theatre student who was doing a term in London. It wouldn't have gone anywhere as I live hundreds of miles away, and her term in the UK was just finishing but it just felt great to have a conversation with someone (who wasn't old enough to be my parent) about a shared interest.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 11/03/2022 08:42

So miss horse has had to cancel tonight,
I’m hobbying most of tomorrow and she is off to crufts on Sunday, for some mother / daughter time.
Ho hum refusal at the 1st.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 11/03/2022 10:59

DdraigGoch
I’m a fan of total honesty
Kudos to recovery woman
She might get less hits
But way more likely to get a like minded soul

I mentioned a condition my child has (hinge has an ‘over share’ question and I’ve chatted with some lovely fellas

Honesty and and humour win

Thisisworsethananticpated · 11/03/2022 11:00

HowlongWillThisTakeNow
You think genuine reasons
Or flaky ?

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 11/03/2022 13:04

@Thisisworsethananticpated
Child care, but her daughter is in 6th form , so that’s kinda 16 to 18 ?
So a genuine reason really, she is offering sat afternoon early evening for early meal out somewhere After ‘doing’ her horse, ( whatever that means)

I’m already getting the vibe that the order will be daughter, horse, me.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 11/03/2022 13:11

Hmm
Childcare for a 6tjh former

Kids come first
No comment on horse 🐎

BillMasen · 11/03/2022 13:13

Hi
So, I was a regular on this thread after my divorce for a couple of years back in 2012-14. I’ve just decided to dip my toe back in after coming out of a 7yr relationship. I’ll probably be a bit infrequent with date updates but I really enjoyed the community feel of these threads back then so I think I’m hoping for some of that.

I’m a 48 year old bloke, so well aware I’m in a minority on mumsnet…

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 11/03/2022 13:13

@Thisisworsethananticpated

Hmm Childcare for a 6tjh former

Kids come first
No comment on horse 🐎

Yeah, I get the feeling the child was supposed to be elsewhere, but that’s falling through so will be at her house now. Hmm.
SortingItOut · 11/03/2022 13:20

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow @Thisisworsethananticpated I didn't leave my daughter home alone overnight until she was about 18.
We live very rurally and she was scared of burglars, of course my daughter would come before a date.

I agree with the order Miss Horse has, my order is:
Kids
Animals
Work
Friends/Family
Hobbies
Mr K/Partner

Anyone expecting to be no.1 needs to look at their self esteem and why they need that.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 11/03/2022 13:21

@BillMasen 👋
I’m 52 and another minority user , who is thinking about giving up

Stepcount · 11/03/2022 13:26

@HowlongWillThisTakeNow, perhaps what she actually means is that her DD won’t be out as planned? I assume that you were being asked to go to Ms Horse’s because she thought she had the house to herself- although that doesn’t explain why that would mean she couldn’t meet you for a meal this evening? Can you make the meal she’s suggesting tomorrow? In terms of ‘ order of priority’ I think everyone has certain things that they have no choice but to continue with. If you have no kids or animals you can throw a few things in a bag and head off whenever or wherever you choose. I met a guy once who I really liked but he wanted someone who could be spontaneous and carefree and we knew that I couldn’t be that person.