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I want to believe my DP but I have doubts.

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Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 13:23

I have been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 3 yo DC together (DP is a great Dad) and a wedding booked in the near future. Never until recently have I ever had reason do doubt his fidelity.

My DP went on a stag do a few months ago, not for him but a friend. It was 2 nights in Newcastle, it was booked through a stag do company (this is sort of relevant).

My DP came back from the stag do and told me all about it. One story stood out as weird in my head BUT did not make me feel suspicious at the time. He said that on one of the nights the booking company organised for 2 “bar girls” to take them on a bar crawl around Newcastle. He said at the end of the night he gave the girls £20 tip and so did his friend. However, another man at the party did not give them a tip and so one of the girls threw a drink in his face. For me something did not add up about this story as it seemed there was more to this story. However, I did not say anything at the time.

Then the very day he got home, he started washing all the clothes he took with him. I usually do the washing in the house and I felt this was very odd, as he is very much someone who would usually leave a bag unpacked for weeks. I felt it was odd, and I will admit that I started to feel suspicious in my head. When I commented about the washing and that it was strange, he was quite defensive and asked me if I was suggesting something. In fairness, looking back my tone was accusatory, I could have dealt with it better.

Then shortly after he came back he deleted all social media from his phone. So, whilst his Facebook profile was active, he would not receive any notifications or messages. When I asked him, he said he wanted to take a social media break. In the 5 years I have known him he has never done that, so it was out of character.

I found this suspicious and coupled with the other stuff I had this really overwhelming feeling that something was wrong. So I outright asked him if he cheated on my while he was away. Possibly not the best way to deal with things, I’ll admit. It turned into a massive argument, he was furious that I had accused him. Things have been frosty since.

Then Halloween evening we had carved pumpkins with DC and DP had taken some pictures of them with the candle in. I asked to see the pictures and he said he had sent them to his friend (from stag do) on Whatsapp and would show me. He was scrolling through the pictures on Whatsapp but accidentally went too far and I saw a picture for a split second. It was so quick because he realised what he had done and couldn't get the phone away quick enough, however I saw a few words but couldn't be sure.

I made out I didn't see anything and have carried on as normal. However, last night he left his phone on the side and I looked on the messages between him and his friend and found the image. His friend had sent him a mocked up image of a man wearing a sign saying “I cheated on my girlfriend in Newcastle and this is my punishment.” He had replied with a laughing face emoji. I felt really sick and hurt seeing that, my stomach just dropped.

I asked him to leave last night but I am not sure what to do. I really love this man. His attitude has not been great either. He said I need to calm down and I am overreacting. He said the image is a joke. He hasn't even apologised to me he properly, just a “Sorry if the image has offended you”.

He is making out that I have come to this conclusion out of my own insecurities. Do you think this is the case? The thing is I have never been insecure about my DP being unfaithful to me before. If you asked me 6 months ago if my DP would cheat on my I would have bet my house/car/everything that he would not have.

I just feel like I need someone from the outside to tell me if:

  1. I am justified in my suspicions
  2. I am being insecure and I am the one causing this rift between us.
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Babyvenusplant · 12/11/2021 13:28

It does sound like something happened to be honest I'm sorry. Trust your gut feelings, washing his clothes and deleting social media from his phone is a massive red flag imo

FinallyFluid · 12/11/2021 13:30

Oh dear.

7917Kj · 12/11/2021 13:32

Personally, I think you are 100% justified in your suspicions. Maybe not the original story but the out of the ordinary washing of his clothes and behaviour since screams guilty conscience to me. Sorry I know that’s not what you want to hear but my honest opinion based on past experience of these behaviours. Sorry that you are dealing with this it’s the worst x

BornInAThunderstorm · 12/11/2021 13:33

Did you get to read any older messages to confirm or was it just the image? To be honest it doesn’t look good so far

BornInAThunderstorm · 12/11/2021 13:33

Also if you had unprotected sex with him since, you may want to get yourself checked for stds as a precaution

Aquamarine1029 · 12/11/2021 13:34

Trust your instincts. There are glaring red flags all over the place, and his guilty, cover up behaviour is almost laughable it's so obvious. I'd bet my house he cheated.

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 13:35

You're completely justified here. You had minor suspicions and rather than reassuring you he kicked off. Since then there have been more and more things to around suspicion.

Don't let him come back.

kitty1993 · 12/11/2021 13:36

Gosh I'm so sorry OP, reading that was like reading my own experiences around this sort of stuff. Sadly I think your suspicions are correct. Have you got a close friend you can talk to and ask for support? It's such an overwhelming experience when you think or know your partner has cheated.
The only way to work through this is for him to take responsibility for what he did and for how it's made you feel. Even if he hasn't cheated he needs to realise that it doesn't look good and instead of getting angry with you he needs to understand why all these things have made you feel worried and upset.

My own DP cheated on a stag do and it was the collection of all these small actions and behaviours that got me suspicious. I spent a long time thinking I was going mad but could never shake off the feeling that something had happened and then one day he confessed to it. We worked through it eventually and it took a lot of talking and he took responsibility for earning my trust again. He never made me feel stupid for being paranoid when he went on nights out and actually since we've worked through everything we're in a much better place.
I hope you can reach an outcome for both of you and your DC. X

Frymetothemoon · 12/11/2021 13:37

Sorry, but I think you're right to be suspicious

Sakurami · 12/11/2021 13:38

It sounds like he definitely cheated on you with all that behaviour.

PlanDeRaccordement · 12/11/2021 13:38

It sounds to me that things did get out of hand during the drunken bar crawl with the two escorts. But there is no way of telling whether it was his friend that cheated and he’s disgusted by it and so going off social media because he thinks his friends suck, or if he was part of the “cheating” himself. Most escorts don’t have sex with clients when it is going out and about in public. But hand/blow jobs for £20 extra are not uncommon. I agree with you that some line was crossed while he was drunk. But it’s really hard as he doesn’t seem to want to give details about the trip.

Valeriane · 12/11/2021 13:38

A man who normally leaves an away bag out for weeks, washing his clothes when he doesnt normally do the laundry.

A man suddenly for the first time in his life coming off social media (although I dont understand why he did that, to what purpose).

I'm sorry OP but this seems quite clear cut. Flowers

AtrociousCircumstance · 12/11/2021 13:39

He cheated. Ugh, sorry OP. What a sleazy bastard. Trying to turn it on you and claim you’re paranoid Angry He has obviously transgressed.

Valeriane · 12/11/2021 13:41

Why would he need to wash his clothes though 🤢

nocnoc · 12/11/2021 13:41

Wow. He’s just disgusting. At least if he’d come home and faced it and been honest you could maybe move past it. He needs to tell you exactly what happened or he’s gone. Don’t put up with this. He’s treating you like a joke. What an arsehole. So sorry but there are red flags waving all over the place

Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 13:41

I understand that separately these things would be insignificant but together I feel they all add up. I am not a jealous person and I have always trusted him unquestionably. However, I feel like this is turning me into a person that I do not like. I do not like having this drama or negativity in my life.

I cannot talk about this to anyone in my life because we are due to get married and I just don't know what I want to do about this. I have a child and have to consider what is best for them.

I am at the point now that if he admitted he had been unfaithful to me I would be relieved. Because the alternative is that I am a paranoid and bitter person, which is how he is making me feel after last night. Maybe he is right.

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BornInAThunderstorm · 12/11/2021 13:41

For me the worst part would be laughing about it with his mate. That shows a lack of remorse

nocnoc · 12/11/2021 13:42

@Valeriane he came off to make sure nobody could post a photo of him with another girl. Someone has obviously got photos of him and he knows it

nocnoc · 12/11/2021 13:43

Can you ring his mate?

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 13:43

I am at the point now that if he admitted he had been unfaithful to me I would be relieved. Because the alternative is that I am a paranoid and bitter person, which is how he is making me feel after last night. Maybe he is right

Tell him this. Because it might encourage him to admit it. If he does, you can decide whether you want to try and get past it.
If he doesnt, the way he's made you feel when you're insecure speaks volumes.

BornInAThunderstorm · 12/11/2021 13:44

Op not that I want to send you down an obsessive rabbit hole, but a friend of mine found out her dp had cheated because someone sent her a link to a photo on a nightclub website where their onsite photographer had taken a picture of him groping and kissing a girl.

Do you know which bars / clubs they went to?

nomorefrogs · 12/11/2021 13:44

I would tell him that as you believe he has cheated but not respected you enough to be honest then the marriage is off and you are over. This might be enough to get him to be honest. If you marry him he will continue to hide stuff from you and that is no way to live believe me!

Clementine183 · 12/11/2021 13:49

Just putting it out there, but could it have been the friend who cheated? That picture sounds to me like it could be a self-mocking kind of thing...

That said, the other signs do sound suspicious I have to say.

AndTime · 12/11/2021 13:50

I think he has definitely cheated. Coming off social media is to avoid the girl finding and contacting him and washing his clothes is to get rid of any stains.

Bluntness100 · 12/11/2021 13:55

That could have been his mate who cheated though, I think people saying he defo cheated are just leaping. He might have, but he might not have, no one can tell from this. I’d say one of them did though.