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I want to believe my DP but I have doubts.

319 replies

Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 13:23

I have been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 3 yo DC together (DP is a great Dad) and a wedding booked in the near future. Never until recently have I ever had reason do doubt his fidelity.

My DP went on a stag do a few months ago, not for him but a friend. It was 2 nights in Newcastle, it was booked through a stag do company (this is sort of relevant).

My DP came back from the stag do and told me all about it. One story stood out as weird in my head BUT did not make me feel suspicious at the time. He said that on one of the nights the booking company organised for 2 “bar girls” to take them on a bar crawl around Newcastle. He said at the end of the night he gave the girls £20 tip and so did his friend. However, another man at the party did not give them a tip and so one of the girls threw a drink in his face. For me something did not add up about this story as it seemed there was more to this story. However, I did not say anything at the time.

Then the very day he got home, he started washing all the clothes he took with him. I usually do the washing in the house and I felt this was very odd, as he is very much someone who would usually leave a bag unpacked for weeks. I felt it was odd, and I will admit that I started to feel suspicious in my head. When I commented about the washing and that it was strange, he was quite defensive and asked me if I was suggesting something. In fairness, looking back my tone was accusatory, I could have dealt with it better.

Then shortly after he came back he deleted all social media from his phone. So, whilst his Facebook profile was active, he would not receive any notifications or messages. When I asked him, he said he wanted to take a social media break. In the 5 years I have known him he has never done that, so it was out of character.

I found this suspicious and coupled with the other stuff I had this really overwhelming feeling that something was wrong. So I outright asked him if he cheated on my while he was away. Possibly not the best way to deal with things, I’ll admit. It turned into a massive argument, he was furious that I had accused him. Things have been frosty since.

Then Halloween evening we had carved pumpkins with DC and DP had taken some pictures of them with the candle in. I asked to see the pictures and he said he had sent them to his friend (from stag do) on Whatsapp and would show me. He was scrolling through the pictures on Whatsapp but accidentally went too far and I saw a picture for a split second. It was so quick because he realised what he had done and couldn't get the phone away quick enough, however I saw a few words but couldn't be sure.

I made out I didn't see anything and have carried on as normal. However, last night he left his phone on the side and I looked on the messages between him and his friend and found the image. His friend had sent him a mocked up image of a man wearing a sign saying “I cheated on my girlfriend in Newcastle and this is my punishment.” He had replied with a laughing face emoji. I felt really sick and hurt seeing that, my stomach just dropped.

I asked him to leave last night but I am not sure what to do. I really love this man. His attitude has not been great either. He said I need to calm down and I am overreacting. He said the image is a joke. He hasn't even apologised to me he properly, just a “Sorry if the image has offended you”.

He is making out that I have come to this conclusion out of my own insecurities. Do you think this is the case? The thing is I have never been insecure about my DP being unfaithful to me before. If you asked me 6 months ago if my DP would cheat on my I would have bet my house/car/everything that he would not have.

I just feel like I need someone from the outside to tell me if:

  1. I am justified in my suspicions
  2. I am being insecure and I am the one causing this rift between us.
OP posts:
IggleyP · 12/11/2021 13:56

Is he relatively young OP? (as in, 20 something)

And do the “boys nights” and stag dos happen often? He sounds very immature, just by the way he has reacted and from having a dickhead of a mate who he responds to with laughing faces.

If he has cheated, possibly he has done you a favour in the long term as you can go on to meet an adult man who doesn’t trawl around after bar girls on nights out and who can have respectful, adult communication with you and who you can trust.

TeeBee · 12/11/2021 13:58

Sounds very dodgy to me. I wouldn't be marrying him. You don't want to spend your life like this.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 12/11/2021 13:58
  1. Yes.
  2. No

If this was my DH (who as much as you can know wouldnt cheat) he would have his head in his heads crying, be begging me to listen and understand, insist i comb through everything on jis phone and apologise profusely (even if he done nothing wrong) for upsetting me and not thinking about how it looked.

You are not bitter or paranoid.
He is a bad egg and i think he cheated.

MimiDaisy11 · 12/11/2021 13:58

It doesn’t look good. Washing the clothes is a big red flag. If it’d just been the image you’d seen I’d have thought it could be them joking about a friend or some inside joke. But yes everything together seems hard to explain away.

Pinkbonbon · 12/11/2021 13:59

It was obvious he had done something really wrong before that message. And the message made it apparent what it was.

The drink throwing probably had an element element truth. 'Someone' got drink thrown on them when the girl realised he was in a relationship. That's why he was washing his clothes.

Youve absolutely made the right move getting shot of him. Keep him gone. Gaslighting prick.

Shoxfordian · 12/11/2021 13:59

It sounds really shady

Feelingoktoday · 12/11/2021 14:00

Always trust your gut feeling. But unless he admits it I can’t see how you can move on from it. You don’t trust him, he isn’t going to tell you the truth. So do you break up a relationship because of a gut feeling? Very difficult. He needs to tell the truth.

Pinkbonbon · 12/11/2021 14:02

And as pp said - a normal (and innocent) person would be seeing how it looked from your perspective. He however, is trying to male you out to be nuts. That's a nasty person right there. You're well shot if him.

nomorefrogs · 12/11/2021 14:02

Also telling you that you are over-reacting is a shitty excuse that gaslighters use to shift responsibility from themselves to you. He needs to quickly come up with some answers if he wants to move forward with you.

maddy68 · 12/11/2021 14:03

I wouldn't be so quick to come to a conclusion.

Stag did can get very "laddy". Putting drink people in compromised positions for a photo etc etc. He could have fallen victim to all of that and tried to cover his tracks. (he may not even know what actually happened and he's panicked !)

MimiDaisy11 · 12/11/2021 14:03

@Valeriane

Why would he need to wash his clothes though 🤢
It could be he was worried about a perfume scent. Or maybe there was nothing to discover but if he was all over a woman then a guilty conscious can make people act paranoid and he wanted them washed just in case there was something to discover
Appledrop · 12/11/2021 14:03

You say your wedding is in the very near future, perhaps postponing it would be a wise move for the pair of you? I'd also be worried about him going out on his own stag do after this? Something is definitly up here and you need to resolve it as this is no way to start a marriage especially where the trust and respect has already possibly gone down the toilet. Has his mate got a partner? Maybe ask her if not ask his mate directly saying that you don't want to start a marriage built on deception and lies. Good Luck.

Sparklfairy · 12/11/2021 14:04

@Bluntness100

That could have been his mate who cheated though, I think people saying he defo cheated are just leaping. He might have, but he might not have, no one can tell from this. I’d say one of them did though.
Then surely if you were accused you would just say that? "It wasn't me who cheated, it was x" and even if he didn't want to tell her who, he could say it was one of the others. Instead he got stroppy and offended with a faux-apology, which doesn't look good.
RantyAunty · 12/11/2021 14:06

Does the friend with the photo also have a girlfriend?

It sounds like someone hired a couple of sex workers and your bf had sex and is lying to you about it.
The sudden washing of his clothes
Deleting sm. His friends probably have pics of him with one of the women.
Him grabbing his phone away while looking at the photos.

Monalotmoore · 12/11/2021 14:06

@Anon1244

I understand that separately these things would be insignificant but together I feel they all add up. I am not a jealous person and I have always trusted him unquestionably. However, I feel like this is turning me into a person that I do not like. I do not like having this drama or negativity in my life.

I cannot talk about this to anyone in my life because we are due to get married and I just don't know what I want to do about this. I have a child and have to consider what is best for them.

I am at the point now that if he admitted he had been unfaithful to me I would be relieved. Because the alternative is that I am a paranoid and bitter person, which is how he is making me feel after last night. Maybe he is right.

Has he explained why the picture was funny? Why his friends think it is a joke that you think he cheated on you?
WhoppingBigBackside · 12/11/2021 14:09

It's not you, it's him
Bin him.

Pinkbonbon · 12/11/2021 14:10

All else asside, don't marry someone who gaslights you. He has shown his true colours. Rather than comfort you and understand your perfectly valid reason for concern, he has gaslighted you. That's not someone you should tie yourself to forever. Because he doesn't have your back. And that's not love.

Timeforwinterclothes · 12/11/2021 14:10

Can you access his friend's social media? There might be photos that prove things one way or another.

Yummypumpkin · 12/11/2021 14:14

I agree something bad happened. But it might not be cheating or him.

If its less bad than what you're accusing him of right now, then unless he is thick as chips, he will tell you what did happen pretty quickly.

You shouldn't be reaching out to him or working on things or any of that crap. You kicked him out. If he's got a better version, he will tell you it.

But the longer it takes him to come up with this, the more chance it's a lie...

Are you friends with any of his mates' partners?

halloweenqwueeeen · 12/11/2021 14:15

Do you know the name of the company and the bars they went to? I would go through SM looking at the Facebook pages and insta hashtags for the weekend and see what you can find.

Sounds highly likely something had happened. Always trust your gut Flowers

JollyJoon · 12/11/2021 14:16

Great idea from the poster who said check the nightclubs social media for photos.

That "hilarious" mock up photo: that's the sort of thing someone posts to rib a mate, not about themself. Aka it wasnt the friend alluding to himself.

Just lull him into a false sense of security bu sitting him down and being really gentle and saying "look it was a stag do, it's a complete one off and special circumstances, I'm not going to go ape shit. But I do need you to tell me what happened, I need you to be honest or I wont be able.to move on".

jumpingkate · 12/11/2021 14:18

I'd be suspicious but very much doubt they were sex workers. They tend not to use perfume for obvious reasons.

sillysmiles · 12/11/2021 14:21

I cannot talk about this to anyone in my life because we are due to get married and I just don't know what I want to do about this. I have a child and have to consider what is best for them.

It sounds as though you want to work through this. If that's the case, maybe it would be a good idea to consider relationship counselling. But obviously he needs to 1) explain what happened and 2) want to commit to a future.

Joystir59 · 12/11/2021 14:24

It really doesn't look good I have to say. I think he did setting in Newcastle that would be classed as cheating and he's desperately trying to prevent you from finding out.

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 14:27

Then surely if you were accused you would just say that? "It wasn't me who cheated, it was x" and even if he didn't want to tell her who, he could say it was one of the others.

If he's the kind of bloke who gets angry when confronted he's the kind of bloke who'd risk his relationship to save his friends arse.

OP - is his friend married or does his friend have kids?