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I want to believe my DP but I have doubts.

319 replies

Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 13:23

I have been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 3 yo DC together (DP is a great Dad) and a wedding booked in the near future. Never until recently have I ever had reason do doubt his fidelity.

My DP went on a stag do a few months ago, not for him but a friend. It was 2 nights in Newcastle, it was booked through a stag do company (this is sort of relevant).

My DP came back from the stag do and told me all about it. One story stood out as weird in my head BUT did not make me feel suspicious at the time. He said that on one of the nights the booking company organised for 2 “bar girls” to take them on a bar crawl around Newcastle. He said at the end of the night he gave the girls £20 tip and so did his friend. However, another man at the party did not give them a tip and so one of the girls threw a drink in his face. For me something did not add up about this story as it seemed there was more to this story. However, I did not say anything at the time.

Then the very day he got home, he started washing all the clothes he took with him. I usually do the washing in the house and I felt this was very odd, as he is very much someone who would usually leave a bag unpacked for weeks. I felt it was odd, and I will admit that I started to feel suspicious in my head. When I commented about the washing and that it was strange, he was quite defensive and asked me if I was suggesting something. In fairness, looking back my tone was accusatory, I could have dealt with it better.

Then shortly after he came back he deleted all social media from his phone. So, whilst his Facebook profile was active, he would not receive any notifications or messages. When I asked him, he said he wanted to take a social media break. In the 5 years I have known him he has never done that, so it was out of character.

I found this suspicious and coupled with the other stuff I had this really overwhelming feeling that something was wrong. So I outright asked him if he cheated on my while he was away. Possibly not the best way to deal with things, I’ll admit. It turned into a massive argument, he was furious that I had accused him. Things have been frosty since.

Then Halloween evening we had carved pumpkins with DC and DP had taken some pictures of them with the candle in. I asked to see the pictures and he said he had sent them to his friend (from stag do) on Whatsapp and would show me. He was scrolling through the pictures on Whatsapp but accidentally went too far and I saw a picture for a split second. It was so quick because he realised what he had done and couldn't get the phone away quick enough, however I saw a few words but couldn't be sure.

I made out I didn't see anything and have carried on as normal. However, last night he left his phone on the side and I looked on the messages between him and his friend and found the image. His friend had sent him a mocked up image of a man wearing a sign saying “I cheated on my girlfriend in Newcastle and this is my punishment.” He had replied with a laughing face emoji. I felt really sick and hurt seeing that, my stomach just dropped.

I asked him to leave last night but I am not sure what to do. I really love this man. His attitude has not been great either. He said I need to calm down and I am overreacting. He said the image is a joke. He hasn't even apologised to me he properly, just a “Sorry if the image has offended you”.

He is making out that I have come to this conclusion out of my own insecurities. Do you think this is the case? The thing is I have never been insecure about my DP being unfaithful to me before. If you asked me 6 months ago if my DP would cheat on my I would have bet my house/car/everything that he would not have.

I just feel like I need someone from the outside to tell me if:

  1. I am justified in my suspicions
  2. I am being insecure and I am the one causing this rift between us.
OP posts:
Malibuismysecrethome · 12/11/2021 15:18

He just wants you to forget all about it. He isn’t going to confess and the fact that he is getting annoyed with you speaks volumes. He would rather gaslight you and row than sit down and talk about his weekend. I’m not buying the girls who take them to bars bit either, not if one of them just threw a drink over one of the party, what happened for them to behave like that. Hard for you to live with now the genie is out of the bottle.
Best wishes

WhoppingBigBackside · 12/11/2021 15:20

People will know.
I know someone who shagged a prostitute on his stag do.
It's common knowledge.
I don't think the bride knows

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 15:22

The friend is whose stag it was and so is a newlywed. I am not keen on contacting him or his wife as I don't want to unnecessarily upset her.

Based on this I'm fairly certain it's your partner who cheated. Nobody is stupid enough to cheat on their own stag and then joke with their friends about it.

Are you friends with her? Because she almost certainly knows the truth.

Skeumorph · 12/11/2021 15:27

However, in my heart, if I knew he had cheated on my I do not know how I could ever trust him again. I dont see how someone could live their life happily like that.

Flowers

I am sorry. I think you know that he did cheat. I think most people feel like this and they know themselves well enough to know deep down that they COULD 'put it behind them' but that in effect it just means signing up for a life where you've constantly got that feeling of something in the pit of your stomach. Forever.

I couldn't do it either. Without that belief that they are better than that and that their love actually means something... it's dead.

beastlyslumber · 12/11/2021 15:30

Sorry OP. Don't marry him, whatever you do. Personally I'd dump him and it would be over. How could you ever trust him again?

What a horrible shitty thing to do to you - and to laugh about it with his mate? Horrendous.

JovialNickname · 12/11/2021 15:35

I'm sorry but given the "friend" had actually taken the time to superimpose your partner's face on the "I cheated on my girlfriend" meme and actually added the words "in Newcastle" which is where they went- it seems impossible that that could have any other meaning other than your boyfriend cheated. Combined with his deletion of social media and the panicky washing everything it seems pretty cut and dried that he did cheat. I'm sorry as I hate it on here when everyone jumps to conclusions, but I can't see any other conclusion to be had? I would be needing to see his unblocked social media and that of his friends immediately. Remember probably everyone else can see what happened on Facebook etc, you need to to.

notapizzaeater · 12/11/2021 15:39

Too many red flags here, just one thing and you might be being paranoid but everything together - nope ....

JollyJoon · 12/11/2021 15:43

How are you feeling OP? This thread threw up a lot of thoughts. Are you okay?

billy1966 · 12/11/2021 15:45

OP,
So sorry but I would 100% think he has cheated.

You don't need his confirmation.
You know.

Do not for a second try and fix this.

This is not a man you want to marry.

He is not good enough for you and you will not have a good life.

Reach out to family and friends and tell them.

You will survive this.

He's just another cheat, and not the brightest button in the box by a long shot.

You deserve better.
Flowers

Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 15:47

@nocnoc Your post made me cry, not because it upset me but because I think it is something I needed to hear from someone today. Thank you, you are right.

He is picking DC up from Nursery and we are going to discuss tonight.

OP posts:
BrilliantBetty · 12/11/2021 15:51

Contact the stag company, booking a stag for your pal and his lad mates and want to know if they offer guides to take them round the bars. Bet they don't.

He is lying to you anyway. It's pretty clear. How hurtful to not answer you truthfully he is making things so much worse. Sorry OP. I have been there myself and the feeling of not knowing if you're right or going crazy is the worst bit.

ChippyChipper · 12/11/2021 15:53

Sorry OP but the only possible chance of getting to the truth would be talking to the stag friends wife. If the friend is the type to joke about it in texts knowing you might see it, there’s a good chance he’ll have mentioned it to his wife. Do you know her well enough to ask her to try to find out?

Even if your DP did admit to something, it’s likely to be only what he can get away with. Such as I took her to my room but felt bad so didn’t go through with it.

Did your DP leave when you asked him to?

The problem with confronting him is now he’ll have time to tell his mate you know about the mock up and to start telling people you’re accusing him and are crazy!

Can you check his hotel bill to see if it looks like he had an extra person there, drinks or breakfast?

The clothes washing could have been because he was the one who had a drink chucked over him, but why? Could have been making out with someone in a club or in the toilets (yuk) and then it was let slip by him or someone else that he was married?

BoredZelda · 12/11/2021 15:55

If this was my DH (who as much as you can know wouldnt cheat) he would have his head in his heads crying, be begging me to listen and understand, insist i comb through everything on jis phone and apologise profusely (even if he done nothing wrong) for upsetting me and not thinking about how it looked.

Yep. Same here.

Pumpkinsonparade · 12/11/2021 15:57

Men who haven't cheated on a night away don't imo wash their own clothes and delete their social media...

Derbee · 12/11/2021 15:59

I’m a big advocate for trusting your instincts. I would agree with you that it’s all enough to raise suspicion.

However, the clarification of the photo is a big deal IMO. I would take that photo to mean that he’s cheated on you. His mate photoshopping his face, and changing the text etc. is as clear as you can get.

I’m sorry this has happened to you.

Gonnagetgoing · 12/11/2021 15:59

I think he’s definitely cheated on you, whether kissing or more hard to tell. The washing of clothes, deleting of social media all sounds too much like damage limitation to me.

I’d be having stern words later so he confesses all and then decide what to do going forward.

ChippyChipper · 12/11/2021 16:01

Ah if he was there for two nights, he could have hooked up with someone on the first night and later in the weekend she found out he was married so was furious and chucked a drink over him.

She must have known his surname at least so probably not just a one nighter. Maybe stayed at the same hotel. That’s why he had to get rid of his SM in case she tried to find out who he was married to and contacted you.

altmember · 12/11/2021 16:01

Someone obviously did something while they were away. And all the evidence suggests he did the dirty on you. Him behaving like a stroppy toddler when confronted is hardly helping.

However, you did accuse him of cheating after he did his own laundry and came off social media. It's possible he told his mate that, and the meme was his response, taking the piss. It's also possible that he'd soiled his clothes in a drunken stupor, and that's why he was doing his own laundry. And he only deleted the SM apps off his phone, not his SM accounts completely. So people could still tag him in embarrassing/compromising photos if they wanted to (and they wouldn't even know he wasn't active on sm at the time). So that's an odd move, as it hasn't achieved anything.

I doubt his friends would've taken incriminating photo's of him cheating anyway, and they are almost certainly not going to snitch on their mates. The only way this will get resolved is for him to come clean about exactly what did happen while he was away. In the meantime, you've certainly got enough to presume guilt.

ChippyChipper · 12/11/2021 16:03

Sorry she found out he was engaged with a kid not married.

lifeissweet · 12/11/2021 16:04

When you talk, you need to give him no wriggle room at all. You are not talking about whether something happened, you are asking him to tell you what you know happened. It's a different stance to take.

Shut it down at the first sign of denial. He's past denial. Now it is 'full confession or see you later,' with a dose of 'if this isn't the whole truth and I find out a snippet more later, we are done.'

Tilltheend99 · 12/11/2021 16:05

Maybe there is an infinitesimal possibility you have over reacted but it mostly sounds like he is gaslighting you. His friends sound vile making memes about it. Definitely making the comments about the girls he paid £20 sounds like he has been working on his cover story and planning to either get away with what he did or to continue messaging someone secretly. If he wanted a social media break he would have deleted WhatsApp too IMO

AramintaLee · 12/11/2021 16:05

I'm so sorry OP, but I think your gut is 100% right. As you said, these things individually doesn't really mean anything, but put together they paint a very clear picture. He will no doubt stonewall and deny because at the end of the day, you don't have undeniable proof. I don't really have any advice, but didn't want to read and run Flowers

Helpimfalling · 12/11/2021 16:10

[quote Bookworm20]@SliceOfCakeCupOfTea

Is it all just innocent taking them from bar to bar? Or are other services offered at the discretion of the girl/company?
I've genuinely never heard of this. But the drink in the face thing just sounds off if they are hired professionals just to guide from pub to pub. Something must have happened surely other than just a refusal to give a 'tip'[/quote]
This with bells

HopelesslyOptimistic · 12/11/2021 16:10

Sadly the signs are what you suspect. The hurt you feel will subside & here's truly hoping he will forever regret what he's about to loose for £20 & a pathetic laugh with the lads. Be strong, he is guilty as hell & you sound lovely.

MarshmallowsOnToast · 12/11/2021 16:11

For me, the washing of clothes, deleting of social media & getting very defensive would have been enough of a red flag 🚩 to suggest something was amiss.

The photo you saw surely just solidifies that.

Not sure what the £20 is all about. If that was dodgy I don't know why he'd offer up that info when he didn't need to. That bit is weird.