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I want to believe my DP but I have doubts.

319 replies

Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 13:23

I have been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 3 yo DC together (DP is a great Dad) and a wedding booked in the near future. Never until recently have I ever had reason do doubt his fidelity.

My DP went on a stag do a few months ago, not for him but a friend. It was 2 nights in Newcastle, it was booked through a stag do company (this is sort of relevant).

My DP came back from the stag do and told me all about it. One story stood out as weird in my head BUT did not make me feel suspicious at the time. He said that on one of the nights the booking company organised for 2 “bar girls” to take them on a bar crawl around Newcastle. He said at the end of the night he gave the girls £20 tip and so did his friend. However, another man at the party did not give them a tip and so one of the girls threw a drink in his face. For me something did not add up about this story as it seemed there was more to this story. However, I did not say anything at the time.

Then the very day he got home, he started washing all the clothes he took with him. I usually do the washing in the house and I felt this was very odd, as he is very much someone who would usually leave a bag unpacked for weeks. I felt it was odd, and I will admit that I started to feel suspicious in my head. When I commented about the washing and that it was strange, he was quite defensive and asked me if I was suggesting something. In fairness, looking back my tone was accusatory, I could have dealt with it better.

Then shortly after he came back he deleted all social media from his phone. So, whilst his Facebook profile was active, he would not receive any notifications or messages. When I asked him, he said he wanted to take a social media break. In the 5 years I have known him he has never done that, so it was out of character.

I found this suspicious and coupled with the other stuff I had this really overwhelming feeling that something was wrong. So I outright asked him if he cheated on my while he was away. Possibly not the best way to deal with things, I’ll admit. It turned into a massive argument, he was furious that I had accused him. Things have been frosty since.

Then Halloween evening we had carved pumpkins with DC and DP had taken some pictures of them with the candle in. I asked to see the pictures and he said he had sent them to his friend (from stag do) on Whatsapp and would show me. He was scrolling through the pictures on Whatsapp but accidentally went too far and I saw a picture for a split second. It was so quick because he realised what he had done and couldn't get the phone away quick enough, however I saw a few words but couldn't be sure.

I made out I didn't see anything and have carried on as normal. However, last night he left his phone on the side and I looked on the messages between him and his friend and found the image. His friend had sent him a mocked up image of a man wearing a sign saying “I cheated on my girlfriend in Newcastle and this is my punishment.” He had replied with a laughing face emoji. I felt really sick and hurt seeing that, my stomach just dropped.

I asked him to leave last night but I am not sure what to do. I really love this man. His attitude has not been great either. He said I need to calm down and I am overreacting. He said the image is a joke. He hasn't even apologised to me he properly, just a “Sorry if the image has offended you”.

He is making out that I have come to this conclusion out of my own insecurities. Do you think this is the case? The thing is I have never been insecure about my DP being unfaithful to me before. If you asked me 6 months ago if my DP would cheat on my I would have bet my house/car/everything that he would not have.

I just feel like I need someone from the outside to tell me if:

  1. I am justified in my suspicions
  2. I am being insecure and I am the one causing this rift between us.
OP posts:
OneDayInMyLife · 12/11/2021 16:11

Your really do deserve better. Even if he didn't cheat the way he has approached this would really piss me off.

Pinkbonbon · 12/11/2021 16:14

Anything less than something that feels like the absolute truth and a grovelling appology for his earlier gaslighting behaviour and I would tell him not to come home op. And tbh I'm not sure I'd consider having him back even if he behaved decently going forwards. You can't have a man who gaslights you in your home where your young daughter could grow up thinking its normal for women to accept that sort of treatment. You'd be doing her a massive disservice marrying someone who treats you that way (Let alone a cheat).

MadeForThis · 12/11/2021 16:14

You are right to be suspicious. You need to sit down and ask to see his phone. Ask him to reactivate his social media and let you look. Check who has tagged him, friends requests etc.

Can you check the last time he logged into Facebook etc? He may be logging in when you don't know and pretending it's deactivated.

hellcatspangle · 12/11/2021 16:15

A man suddenly for the first time in his life coming off social media (although I dont understand why he did that, to what purpose).

Maybe he's worried whoever he cheated with will try and track him down/message him on social media?

me4real · 12/11/2021 16:15

The image would not be 'funny' (to them) if none of them had cheated. So, at least one of them has. As it was your DP's face superimposed on the image, it's clear it was him. Sad

itsallgoingpearshaped · 12/11/2021 16:19

I'd be hard pressed to think he hadn't cheated based on his behaviour and his phone.

And he's gone on the offensive and gaslighting you to make it go away rather than beg for forgiveness and tell/show you everything.

I'd tell him you can't stay with someone who hasn't been honest with you, who has clearly cheated on you, and gone to great lengths to pretend otherwise rather than face up to you and be truthful.

You have a right to know the truth and then make up your own mind about whether or not you want to stay in the relationship. He doesn't get to lie and evade your questions and expect you to pretend all is well. If he won't give you the honest truth about what has gone on, then there is zero hope for the relationship and he has to go immediately.

NeonShortsInWinter · 12/11/2021 16:19

You need to sit down and talk to your partner. Ask him for the truth because it cannot be worse than what you have imagined went on. There are possibly witnesses who you could probably contact and ask and I would tell him that too.

You would hope that he would show you his phone and his messages to prove what he said is true.

Only if he is truthful and open about what happened can you decide if you want to continue in a relationship with him. It doesn't matter whether other people did or did not continue in their relationships, only if you can continue or not with yours.

I am sorry that you are going through this.

Helpimfalling · 12/11/2021 16:21

@MadeForThis

You are right to be suspicious. You need to sit down and ask to see his phone. Ask him to reactivate his social media and let you look. Check who has tagged him, friends requests etc.

Can you check the last time he logged into Facebook etc? He may be logging in when you don't know and pretending it's deactivated.

Check who's blocked too
JollyJoon · 12/11/2021 16:21

I think you can gauge the severity of the cheating based on what kind of men your DP and his friend are. If they are a bit geeky/low key then a hand job from a stripper will be a massive deal and result in the mock up photo. But if they are proper beer swilling "lads" for whom bad behaviour is "standard, mate!" then i dont think the friend would have bothered with the mock up photo ribbing unless it was full sex cheating.

Sounds simplistic but you know what I mean.

NewlyGranny · 12/11/2021 16:24

His anger is a big clue. If he'd laughed, said it was a silly idea and cuddled you, I'd say innocent. Straight to anger and accusations and there's something to hide.

RampantIvy · 12/11/2021 16:25

For me, the washing of clothes, deleting of social media & getting very defensive would have been enough of a red flag 🚩 to suggest something was amiss.

I'm inclined to agree. The fact that he never denied anything is very telling.

Minfilia · 12/11/2021 16:26

Weirdly I think the clothes and social media point could, at a push, possibly have been coincidental or explained away…

But the meme? No. Really obvious. There’s no explanation for that at all.

Sorry OP. It’s fucking shit.

ChippyChipper · 12/11/2021 16:28

Is his Facebook profile Friends only OP? That explains why left the profile active as only they can see him. The person he didn’t want to see his profile or contact him must know his surname (and where he’s from) so I’d think it was more than a snog or a grope, or an escort.

JuneySunshine · 12/11/2021 16:30

Oh no, I was going to suggest the washing and social media thing could have been something stupid but innocent- he's thrown up in the street and didn't want a photo emerging.

But, the meme sounds really bad. Not only does it suggest he cheated but that him and his friends think it's a joke.

Sending strength.

Walkingalot · 12/11/2021 16:37

OP I think he had too much to drink, tried it on with one of the girls who then threw a drink at him. It would explain the washing of his clothes and the pic from his mate - his mate exaggerated the scenario -and that's why your DP sent the laughing emoji.

IdblowJonSnow · 12/11/2021 16:37

He's cheated.
Ditch.
I'm sorry. Flowers

JollyJoon · 12/11/2021 16:38

@Walkingalot
That's a good theory actually.

Outfoxedbyrabbits · 12/11/2021 16:53

I cannot talk about this to anyone in my life because we are due to get married and I just don't know what I want to do about this.

Isn't this more of a reason to talk to people in real life?

HollowTalk · 12/11/2021 16:53

I'm really sorry you're going through this 💐

TMChappyascanbe · 12/11/2021 16:54

So sorry OP - you aren't over reacting at all. I think you probably need to get an STI check Sad Angry

I don't think there is any relationship without trust, and there is too much here to be easily explained away. I imagine he will follow the cheaters script Flowers

GatoradeMeBitch · 12/11/2021 16:55

The meme could have been his friend winding him up because you accused him of cheating. However if his behaviour on coming home was odd he probably got up to something that he no intention of you finding out about. And he's probably done a thorough clean-up of his messages and pics by now too.

Nottheduchess · 12/11/2021 17:01

I think you think he has cheated and if you don’t say something now it will eat you up forever. You’ll always be wondering what he’ll do when he goes away or is out with the boys. You can face this meekly or you can face this like a strong confident woman. I don’t mean yelling and screaming but holding your head up high and with dignity. That photo/meme is very damning. Take some deep breaths and make your decisions.

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 17:03

@Outfoxedbyrabbits

I cannot talk about this to anyone in my life because we are due to get married and I just don't know what I want to do about this.

Isn't this more of a reason to talk to people in real life?

I think she means if he hasn't cheated and she suggests to her family or friends that he might have it'll change their opinion of him indefinitely.
WiddlinDiddlin · 12/11/2021 17:05

He has definitely done something he knows you will not be happy about.

Washing the clothes seems odd but I am wondering if thats more about checking pockets/going through his bag to ensure there's nothing to incriminate him there.

Removing social media - thats a HUGE red flag. I doubt either of these bar girls would be in touch, I think the risk he is trying to avoid is his mates dropping him in the shit via memes, tagging in things or perhaps they met some other women ...

The picture from his mate winding him up, now you've made it clear its HIS face on it.. does seem to be pretty damning evidence.

Whether he has had full sex with someone or not - I think he has gone far enough that you'd be hurt, angry and potentially end the relationship over.

SarahBellam · 12/11/2021 17:06

If he hadn’t cheated I can’t imagine it would even have crossed his friend’s mind to take a meme, change it to his face and add ‘in Newcastle’. Why would his friend suggest he had cheated if he hadn’t? And why would he bother washing his own clothes if that was something he never did if he’d just accidentally thrown a drink round himself? That’s not that uncommon in a busy bar after a few drinks and wouldn’t be something anyone would try to hide.

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