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...to think this could've been rape?

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lostintime0789 · 09/11/2021 13:52

Sat night, I got a little (too!) drunk and the bar I was at, ended up alone as I'd been out with a friend who deserted me!

Long story short, I got chatting to these 2 guys, but one of them in particular was becoming overly friendly, he seemed a nice guy.

Fast-forward around midnight, I was really drunk (even fell over Blush) and he invited me back to his place - I said no to this as I had to be in work Mon morning but he could come back to mine - I invited him... Sad

We had sex, that I can recall, but the whole night is now pretty much a blur...

Mon morning, wakes up absolutely covered in bruises - around my throat, my legs, hips... thing is, I DO like rough sex so I have possibly told him this hence why he'd gotten so rough?? Hmm

SadMy mind has just been a bit all over the place these past few days, thinking surely he should have known I was far too drunk for all this to happen? He was pretty much sober btw

AIBU in thinking this, or was it just 2 people, a drunken night and some rough sex?? Just feeling really confused SadConfusedBlush

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lostintime0789 · 23/11/2021 01:03

The more I feel, the less I want to pursue this 

Thank you very fucking much ti the previous poster @kylie122 for making me feel like absolute sh!t right now on top of what I am already feeling SadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSad

Not doing great tonight SadSadSadSad

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ree348 · 23/11/2021 07:42

OP please don't let someone's
ignorant troll comment put you off. You have SO many people on here supporting you..don't let one persons post affect you.

Do it for the women who regret not taking it further, please don't it be another unreported rape.

You know the truth and we all believe you.

Queenie6655 · 23/11/2021 10:27

Ignore some of the Ridiculius things people say

I had an active thread on here where I was asking for help as I tried that day to flee my abuser
One smart a** poster came on to say she thought I was lying blah blah
Thread got deleted and it was full of great advice

There's always one !!! 🤬🤬🤬

Please please pursue this
They may well take it forward

At the very least this scum will need to answer for what he did

Again I feel for you and I know how hard it all is

So many decent people on here are behind you

Deadposhtory · 23/11/2021 15:45

Could he have filmed it?

ALittleBitConfused1 · 23/11/2021 18:59

Thing is he was a stranger to you he doesn't know whether you was too drunk or not to consent.
Is it rape I wouldn't say so but I know others would disagree. I've consented to many a stupid thing when I've been drunk having sex and wishing I hadn't the next day being one of them.
Is he an arsehole, absolutely yes.

ALittleBitConfused1 · 23/11/2021 19:02

I havent read the full thread so if my response is no longer relevant based on further information provided then just ignore me.

lostintime0789 · 23/11/2021 19:19

@ALittleBitConfused1

Thing is he was a stranger to you he doesn't know whether you was too drunk or not to consent. Is it rape I wouldn't say so but I know others would disagree. I've consented to many a stupid thing when I've been drunk having sex and wishing I hadn't the next day being one of them. Is he an arsehole, absolutely yes.
I would never, EVER, put someone through this just because of a 'regret'! I think that's absolutely insensitive and absurd tbh Sad

I've regretted many a sexual encounter but would NOT drag a guy through this because of so Angry

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category12 · 23/11/2021 19:25

@ALittleBitConfused1

I havent read the full thread so if my response is no longer relevant based on further information provided then just ignore me.
When it's as sensitive and triggering a topic, you should really RTFT before commenting. IMO.
lostintime0789 · 23/11/2021 19:42

@ALittleBitConfused1

Thing is he was a stranger to you he doesn't know whether you was too drunk or not to consent. Is it rape I wouldn't say so but I know others would disagree. I've consented to many a stupid thing when I've been drunk having sex and wishing I hadn't the next day being one of them. Is he an arsehole, absolutely yes.
Plus... are you telling me that a guy cannot possibly know how you are beyond the point of consent, merely because he doesn't know you ?!?!?!!!!

FFS! Are we really underestimating men in this way?!

I am FAR from a feminist & have always been a supporter of men in the circumstances where women lie about this kind of thing.

But I am NOT about to claim responsibility for being violated at my most vulnerable AngryAngry

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hereforthechat · 23/11/2021 19:49

@Sleeplessem

Op, you said it in your OP you were too drunk and you fell over. If you are too drunk to walk, you’re too drunk to consent. That there and then is rape. You invited him back because you were smashed, if he was a decent guy, he’d have walked you home, gave you a glass of water and left.

The fact then that in your later post you woke up and he was inside you, confirms that it is definitely unequivocally rape.

I’m so sorry you went through that Flowers

I have read about cases where CCTV has been used as evidence to show how drunk the victim was. If you were falling over in the street that might be on CCTV. You also have bruises. If you decided you want to do something about this there might be more evidence than you think.
madmumofteens · 23/11/2021 23:58

OP I just wanted you to know that I believe you!! A decent person would know that you were incapable of giving consent just take good care of yourself ❤️.

Queenie6655 · 24/11/2021 10:58

Op some posters here are idiots
Sorry to be so blunt

I sat in my hairdressers not so long ago while the owner complained about a young girl who was raped but went out with a short dress and no jacket so 'was asking for it'

Give me fcking strength

When I did my video interview the MeT officers were angels

Kind, calm, reassuring

They didn't get my hopes up and I have put it to the side
But they believed me and were so sympathetic

The joy of thinking about the bastard squirming in his seat when he heard that I had told officials about all he did to me

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Queenie6655 · 02/12/2021 18:31

OP how you been??

Hope all going ok and you have good support around you xxxxxx

lostintime0789 · 05/12/2021 20:12

I'm not in a great way SadSadSad

I feel so down and so full of shame and self-blame. My ex DP was v supportive initially but all I've had from him since is abuse, telling me it's partially my fault, sending me horrible texts the past 2 weekends I've had works Xmas doo's, telling me I'm probably draped over other guys because I love the attention, about how my dress was slutty, telling me how I should / shouldn't be feeling and then to top it off, I've had more interrogation from him than I have from the Police SadSadSad I honestly don't know how much more I can take and truly, if it wasn't for my babies now, I wouldn't be here come morning SadSadSad I don't have close friends, I'm so alone & it's killing me SadSadSad

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RaininSummer · 05/12/2021 21:15

I am sorry you haven't had any other replies yet. I read your original thread but not all the subsequent posts. Your ex sounds quite toxic. Can you block contact with him or at least limit it if you have to deal with children jointly? What happened was not your fault so Please be much much kinder to yourself and try to focus on your lovely children. The man took advantage of you and your ex is no longer being supportive so don't listen to him. I'm sorry I have nothing more constructive at present but I am sure others will be along soon. You count, you are valuable so please don't let these men ruin things for you. Xx

madmumofteens · 06/12/2021 17:11

Oh OP I'm so very sorry to hear your update you need support and certainly not the abuse your receiving from your ex!! Please reach out rape crises offer email and text messages support if you can't face speaking to someone!! You do not deserve what happened to you in any shape or form just reach out anyway you can even on here ❤️ sending love and strength and block your ex 💪 he's your ex for a reason 😡

pringlexo · 06/12/2021 23:11

OP I believe you 100%

You are not alone. X

LittleMissTake · 07/12/2021 08:12

OP please seek help.

Apologies not read the full thread but can you speak to Rape Crisis.

rapecrisis.org.uk/

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