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DH has changed for the better and I’m still not happy

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Avocadowannabe · 27/10/2021 08:58

I had a thread over the summer where I left DH for five weeks and then went back.
The backdrop was that he’d opted out of the dc and family life since dc1 was born 13 years ago and I’d operated largely on my own. As soon as I left he immediately was saying all the right stuff, I didn’t have to tell him.
We moved back in - mainly due to my dd being so upset and pressure from my parents to do so.
And to be fair he is a changed man. Since we moved back in September I’ve had two nights away, he is doing half of the morning school runs (I work 30 hours a week and prior to this was doing absolutely everything), he is better with the dc, he hasn’t been off doing his hobby (although I have no issue with him having a hobby tbh, even though it was every weekend and several evenings a week, I get he needs some time to himself too, it’s been his own choice to give up for now).
He’s been saying all the right things, he says he was unreasonable and his behaviour was a ‘piss take.’ He was originally putting some pressure on around sex but has backed off somewhat. Not entirely mind you, but somewhat, because sex has been a major issue for us as in we never have it. He has ordered a new iron and says he’s going to learn how to use the washing machine and do half the washing and ironing. He says he is going to cook dinner three times a week - please bear in mind that prior to this not once ever. He is doing bedtime for the youngest dc two or three nights a week - again not once prior to this.

He’s being more reasonable over the money. I ordered the dc some winter clothes and he paid. He has recognised that they are expensive and taking them out places is expensive. He’s being much more willing to discuss money.

And yet there’s still something about our dynamic that seems off. He wants me sat next to him or near him all the time. He holds onto me when I try and pull away and demands ‘one more kiss.’ I don’t know, it’s still not right and it should be. I’m finding it frustrating that I do not feel better than I do. The dc are happier I think. DH keeps saying he’s happier and how he’d much rather spend time with us than anything else which makes me slightly 🙄 because he’s had years to do that and hasn’t.
I still feel anxious and sad. I’m considering going to my parents’ for the weekend - just me - because I don’t understand what’s wrong with me. I want to want it to work. I should be happy and I am not. Why am I not? We have gone from spending a lot of time with my parents to never seeing them. DH says if I want to go out with them for the day we can all go, but my parents don’t like him. Consequently since September I’ve barely seen them and nor have the dc.
He says I need to talk to him and tell him how I’m feeling. He is absolutely not at fault here. But I still feel disconnected.

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Row1n · 27/10/2021 19:43

The problem is we all know a person cannot just suddenly change who they are, and you know deep down he hasnt changed because he is still being controlling and an arse, doing some of the chore doesn't mean he isnt a controlling prick.

You feel panicky because you know that this charade is all a farce and will very quickly and easily all come crashing down unless you act your part in it all.

Please take the children and leave, you all deserve far more than this

Avocadowannabe · 27/10/2021 19:44

WhenIsItTooLate did you leave or him? Do you have dc?
Dd has been in tears tonight that she isn’t seeing me much this half term as I’m at work and I was off yesterday and Monday! I’m not sure how she’d cope being split between the two of us.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 27/10/2021 19:46

@Avocadowannabe

WhenIsItTooLate did you leave or him? Do you have dc? Dd has been in tears tonight that she isn’t seeing me much this half term as I’m at work and I was off yesterday and Monday! I’m not sure how she’d cope being split between the two of us.
Based on the fact he's made the absolute minimum effort to change and has mostly said he will do things rather than actually doing them... he sounds like the type who might say he wants 50/50 but is very fucking unlikely to actually follow through on it.
Row1n · 27/10/2021 20:03

@Avocadowannabe I think your dd will fare much worse with a mum who is panicky and very unhappy. Staying for the children really doesnt actually help the children, especially long term

WhenIsItTooLate · 27/10/2021 20:04

@Avocadowannabe

I initiated the split, as in had the initial conversation, but he rolled with it VERY easily and has been the main driver of everything since (has started divorce proceedings, etc). While claiming to be heartbroken and accusing me of being the most selfish person on earth, of course.
I have 3 children, all young (late primary down to preschool aged) - I think the younger two will be absolutely fine but the eldest is a sensitive soul anyway and I think will struggle to adjust for a while. She’s the worry, but tbh she was a bit of a worry before any of this started. We’ll just have to roll with it and cross bridges when we come to them. We’re not going 50/50 or anywhere near it, he’s having them every other weekend. To be honest though I did everything on my own for years so I can’t see it’ll be any harder than it was anyway - I’ll have less housework to do as he generates so much work, and every other weekend is far more time than i get off at the moment 🤷‍♀️

DFOD · 27/10/2021 20:13

@Avocadowannabe

WhenIsItTooLate did you leave or him? Do you have dc? Dd has been in tears tonight that she isn’t seeing me much this half term as I’m at work and I was off yesterday and Monday! I’m not sure how she’d cope being split between the two of us.
At 13 your DD had decide when and where she wants to be at anytime.

Sounds like she is not very happy being back if she is this distressed.

As PP says she is likely absorbing and internalising your emotional pain - she may even be feeling guilty that you returned for her.

This isn’t sustainable for any of you. It might be a hard transition but I suspect that with 3-4 months the dust will settle and the new rhythm of a calm, peaceful, kind and respectful home will be established.

You also need to consider doing it sooner rather than later which might unnecessarily disrupt specific exam years.

Avocadowannabe · 27/10/2021 20:19

My dd is my younger child.
Ds is 13.

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Catullus5 · 27/10/2021 20:40

Hi OP, I went through something like this: a decade of crap, leaving and returning when DW asked me to.

I'm still married and we made it work and I'm OK. But, things to bear in mind.

  1. It's taken nearly 4 years for me to feel close to normal.
  2. Ending the marriage now wouldn't make me any happier. But I'll never know if I would have been happier now if I decided not to return back then.
  3. DW didn't love bomb me. In fact her behaviour improved quite slowly.
  4. Regardless of all our other faults we have always both been very committed to our marriage, and we needed all that commitment.

So I probably made the right decision but I'll never know for sure and that's just something I live with.

RandomMess · 27/10/2021 20:45

You need to be careful.

You see your DDs sensitivity and needing you to be together and living in the marital home - the main reason you went back before.

The truth is she can probably sense that things are really not ok, haven't been for years and that makes her insecure, tearful, uncertain.

Doing EOW and one overnight with her dad, and even 50:50 won't make her more miserable than she is now. She'll have a happier Mum and that will give her the confidence and happiness to deal with having 2 homes and being away with you. She is sensitive to your unhappiness.

Avocadowannabe · 27/10/2021 20:51

She’s only little. She said she’s worried about me because I don’t eat anything. Now I feel terrible about that too.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 27/10/2021 20:53

@RandomMess

You need to be careful.

You see your DDs sensitivity and needing you to be together and living in the marital home - the main reason you went back before.

The truth is she can probably sense that things are really not ok, haven't been for years and that makes her insecure, tearful, uncertain.

Doing EOW and one overnight with her dad, and even 50:50 won't make her more miserable than she is now. She'll have a happier Mum and that will give her the confidence and happiness to deal with having 2 homes and being away with you. She is sensitive to your unhappiness.

Please try to see this OP.
Wallywobbles · 27/10/2021 21:08

Your DD is picking up some interesting behavior from your DH. You might want to give some thought to modeling healthy relationships for your kids.

Whether you are with her Dad or not really shouldn't be that stressful unless you both as parents make it that way. What exactly is she scared of? Having a happy Mum? Give it all some thought....

Pinkspecs · 27/10/2021 21:14

Perhaps the resentment has eaten away at the love and it's too late.

gingercatsparky · 27/10/2021 21:16

I can totally relate to this and I am in this situation too. After years of arguing on and off about the balance of labour, dcs, finances I Suddenly had a light bulb moment during covid where I was doing everything and DH only had work to attend to. I snapped and told him how unhappy I am. At first I don't think he took it seriously but then after a while he did.

He's also stepping up, doing two school runs a week, cooking more, doing homework with the kids etc. Making less snide comments about my life. He says he's changed and has decided to step up more. He's really trying, he feels I should be happy. But I still feel a disconnection, I don't feel happy. When we argue he says I need to stop going over the past- which I probably do but I don't feel like I can. I think like you I am waiting for the novelty to wear off. I have resentment for the past and I guess I don't quite believe he can suddenly change his whole outlook on life and his thought process. I feel like he's quite nasty to Me.

I don't know what to do, I am confused too. I should be happy, I think, but I am not.

Avocadowannabe · 27/10/2021 21:20

Oh I’ve had the snide comments too.
Things like he couldn’t remember how to use the oven because his head was ‘full of important things’ comments about not realising my life was so ‘busy and stressful’ in a sarcastic way, and once when I was ill saying he wouldn’t catch it because he was too important and busy to be ill.

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EveningOverRooftops · 27/10/2021 21:23

@Avocadowannabe

I think if I said ‘get off, stop kissing me’ he’d let me go...but then he’d be angry. I need some space from it all. He’s been off the same days as me over half term so now I’m never away from him. I’m at work or with him.
Did he change his days off to match yours?
RandomMess · 27/10/2021 21:31

He is so awful!!!

Remember your DD missed her things and room not him...

You know you need to end it, please stop hiding behind your DC as an excuse to yourself not to do it. He is going to forevermore throw at you "all the things he does to help" which is not a patch on what he should be doing in order to cover his fair share.

Just because he is less shit, he's still shit.

LizzieSiddal · 27/10/2021 21:54

Please reread your last row posts, don’t feel bad but do realise you have to do something about this situation. Your Dc will not thank you for staying with a man who makes you ill! They want and need a healthy and happy mum!

Your husband is a horrible person!

LizzieSiddal · 27/10/2021 21:55

*Last two posts

Avocadowannabe · 27/10/2021 22:01

He’s just come upstairs and asked if I think we will split up. He said he’s going to try and give me some space rather than smothering me all the time.

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GoodnightGrandma · 27/10/2021 22:05

I think it would help if he moved out for a week or two, just to let you clear your head.

thelegohooverer · 27/10/2021 22:13

I haven’t read all the comments, but I have read all of yours op.

I think you’re focused on the wrong thing.

You’ve been distracted by the changes that he’s made and comparing what he did before to what he’s doing now in terms of childcare and housework.

But even just reading about his suffocating control is very uncomfortable. Even if he was doing all the child care and housework it wouldn’t be right.

You are being tricked into comparing a shit situation to a slightly less shit one.

Another poster used the word “menacing” and that’s what I thought too. I think you should be very careful.

RandomMess · 27/10/2021 22:22

His comment this evening makes me think he is reading this thread.

Avocadowannabe · 27/10/2021 22:24

That thought crossed my mind Random

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TheFormidableMrsC · 27/10/2021 22:31

@Avocadowannabe

That thought crossed my mind Random
Do you know what, don't stress it. He needs a reality check and you need a divorce.
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