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Was he calling me fat?

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AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 19:59

I posted earlier this year because I was pissed off that pretty much any man I've ever dated has commented negatively on my appearance at some point - either comments about my looks or body. Often hints or direct comments that I'm fat. I always end it within days. Never immediately because I don't want them to think they've upset me.

The general consensus was that I'm either just unlucky or I'm reading things into comments that aren't intended.

Well, it's happened again. So I wanted to run it by you lot for an impartial judgement.

I've been seeing a man I've known for around 18 months since January. He a friend of friends and we've loosely been in each other's social group for a few years but only really became friends 18 months ago.

I'm a size 12 and 5'4.

We went out on Saturday for the day. He was gigging in the evening so needed to get changed. I stayed as I was. I asked him which shirt he was changing into and said he didn't know, what did I think. So I suggested a shirt of his that he knows is my favourite.

The following conversation went like this (pretty much verbatim).

Him: "OK, I'll wear that one then as you like it Smile"
Me: "I do. You always look nice but I really like you in that one Smile"
Him: "OK... I feel I really ought to return the favour... oh I feel really bad saying this... That dress you're wearing really isn't the most flattering one you have"
Me: "Really? Oh well, that's tough really, it's the one I'm wearing and I don't have another with me."

Fwiw, the dress is casual - a black jersey maxi dress with a loose tie belt. I thought I looked quite nice in it and, more than that, the last time I wore it, someone asked me if I'd lost weight because it was "very slimming."

It possibly isn't the 'prettiest' dress I own, nor the most flattering but I don't think I looked so bad in it that it warranted a comment - especially as we were going out for the day/evening and would be spending it with his friends.

I didn't let it bother me as such but it was on my mind the whole day/evening 😕

This is typical of the sort of comment I get. It's rare that anyone has actually said directly, "You're fat," But these 'innocent' or helpful comments (eg "you look lovely but could stand to lose a couple of kilos") are ones I always get. Hence, I haven't had a relationship lasting more than a few months for 10 years!

If I'd asked him and he'd said that, I wouldn't mind at all because then I'd have been looking for an honest response. But I've never asked him, or anyone else, "How do I look?" because I don't see the point in inviting the negative comments.

What does it sound like to you?

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AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:00

Actually, I would disagree with him. I think it is a flattering dress!

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RaginaFalangi · 28/06/2021 20:03

Maybe he likes another dress you've wore before?
I wouldn't say he was calling you fat but he could've said it a bit better

JayAlfredPrufrock · 28/06/2021 20:04

Well that was just rude.

What a bizarre thing to say.

MandalaYogaTapestry · 28/06/2021 20:05

He didn't need to comment on your appearance unless he wanted to say something nice or unless you asked him directly. But for what it's worth, some jersey dresses are pretty unforgiving and will show every lump and bump.

AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:05

Maybe. But he didn't say he liked me in another dress. Or which dress. He just commented negatively on what I was wearing.

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AramintaLee · 28/06/2021 20:06

As long as you think it's a flattering dress, that's all that matters... I have no idea why he felt the need to criticise you when you offered him a compliment, but he sounds like an ass.

Then again, maybe he took your comment about him looking best in your favourite shirt to mean you don't think what he normally wears looks nice? I know that's not how you meant it and it sounds like you worded it carefully... but maybe he still managed to find an insult in your compliment?

Either way, what he said was unnecessary.

emsyj37 · 28/06/2021 20:06

If someone said that to me I wouldn't interpret it as them saying I was fat, but rather that they would prefer me to wear a sexier dress. Which is problematic in its own way I suppose! I dont think I would think it was a comment on my weight or size.

WaltzingBetty · 28/06/2021 20:06

Maybe he thinks the colour is drab or the length swamps you?

I think you assuming that he's telling you you're fat is a reach. I think he just doesn't like the dress - I definitely know men who dislike maxi dresses or dull colours

AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:07

@MandalaYogaTapestry

He didn't need to comment on your appearance unless he wanted to say something nice or unless you asked him directly. But for what it's worth, some jersey dresses are pretty unforgiving and will show every lump and bump.
I agree but it isn't tight. It's quite flattering.
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Schrutesbeets · 28/06/2021 20:09

It was a twatty comment but I wouldn't immediately assume it was about your weight. Dresses can be unflattering for a number of reasons. Could it be that you're particularly sensitive based on past experiences?

AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:09

It's this one...

Was he calling me fat?
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NewlyGranny · 28/06/2021 20:10

Whatever he meant, it was an unsolicited comment which makes it rude and inappropriate. He asked for your opiion and you gave it in a flattering way - "You always look nice but you really look nice in that one," and then he homes in and tells you your dress isn't the nicest.

How about you never asked him?!

He needs to lose the 'tude.

AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:11

@Schrutesbeets

It was a twatty comment but I wouldn't immediately assume it was about your weight. Dresses can be unflattering for a number of reasons. Could it be that you're particularly sensitive based on past experiences?
I don't know. Thats why I was asking!

It looks pretty similar to that image on me.

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WaltzingBetty · 28/06/2021 20:11

@AllRainedOut

It's this one...
I mean it's a perfectly fine black jersey dress but it's not massively interesting 🤷‍♀️
AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:11

@NewlyGranny

Whatever he meant, it was an unsolicited comment which makes it rude and inappropriate. He asked for your opiion and you gave it in a flattering way - "You always look nice but you really look nice in that one," and then he homes in and tells you your dress isn't the nicest.

How about you never asked him?!

He needs to lose the 'tude.

Yeah, i wish I'd just said, "Well, I didn't ask for your opinion!"
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NewlyGranny · 28/06/2021 20:12

Perhaps his parents never told him this, but you can: if he doesn't have anything nice to say, he should say nothing.

WaltzingBetty · 28/06/2021 20:12

@NewlyGranny

Whatever he meant, it was an unsolicited comment which makes it rude and inappropriate. He asked for your opiion and you gave it in a flattering way - "You always look nice but you really look nice in that one," and then he homes in and tells you your dress isn't the nicest.

How about you never asked him?!

He needs to lose the 'tude.

Where did he ask for her opinion?
Honeyroar · 28/06/2021 20:12

I don’t think he was saying that you’re fat (you’re clearly not anyway if size 12). He was telling you he didn’t like the dress. And he knew he was being rude because he tried (and failed) to “soften it” by saying he felt really bad saying that (he bloody should have). You are quite right, it didn’t warrant a comment like that and it wasn’t a nice thing to throw out when you were just going out and you couldn’t get changed anyway. I half think that you should tell him that you think his comment was badly timed and slightly spoiled your night because he’d made you feel judged/unattractive. Don’t let him do that to you. And he certainly wasn’t “returning a favour”. You told him he looked nice, he told you that you didn’t. He was rude.

Antiqueanniesmagiclanternshow · 28/06/2021 20:13

It's a bit italian widowish.
My dh would probably comment negatively if i wore it on the basis that it has no colour or shape.

AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:13

WaltzingBetty

It wasn't meant to he massively interesting! I was going to be out of the house for 14 hours and driving. I just wanted to be comfortable! I wasn't trying to look interesting!

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CoronaBanana · 28/06/2021 20:14

Meh, he'd probably just prefer you in a more skimpy number. Nothing he said was about your weight.

MissMissTorrance · 28/06/2021 20:14

I think be means he prefers something more revealing.

AllRainedOut · 28/06/2021 20:14

Where did he ask for her opinion?

He asked me which shirt I thought he should wear.

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WaltzingBetty · 28/06/2021 20:15

@AllRainedOut

WaltzingBetty

It wasn't meant to he massively interesting! I was going to be out of the house for 14 hours and driving. I just wanted to be comfortable! I wasn't trying to look interesting!

And that is totally fine.

I agree with the sentiment that his comment isn't helpful, but I don't think it's a comment on your weight or warrants a MN thread. I think you're potentially overthinking this

The way to deal with it would have been to respond 'why? what's wrong with this dress?' Rather than torture yourself assuming he thinks you're fat when that isn't what he said

RaginaFalangi · 28/06/2021 20:15

@AllRainedOut

It's this one...
Not something I would wear personally but it's clearly bothering you a lot so can you not just be honest with him and tell him his comment made you feel upset?