Men + unrealistic expectations OLD

[Kitchentop]

The men I’ve dated from the online world seem to have very unrealistic expectations - young, skinny, ‘feminine’ women etc even though they’ve been absolutely nothing special themselves whatsoever. I guess it’s entitlement?
It seems to be worse in London where I am based. I am originally from outside of the big city and in my hometown men seem to be more realistic and very happy with normal women - not size 8-10 etc
Just wondering is this a London and online dating phenomena?

What do they mean by "feminine"?

Stockings, suspenders and short skirts.

8-10 used to be the 'norm' in this country.
Not sure why looking for someone with a healthy weight and is feminine is unrealistic. Of course it depends on what the men look like as well.

DrSbaitso no idea

Yes totally agree. Men who have hit every branch of the fugly tree specifying that they will only date younger,hot,gym girls. To be honest I do the same now and only seek younger guys as I don't find the men age remotely attractive. If You can't beat them,join them!

It’s a bit judgemental of you to suggest us women who are size 8-10 are not normal. A size 8-10 women is of a normal and healthy weight.

Holowiwi It’s not the norm anymore. Men and women aren’t as slim as they used to be. I am a size 10 and yet was criticised for not being toned and lean enough by one man from OLD.

MrsBerthaRochester 😂👍

Femme99 agree clumsy wording on my part. Didn’t mean to offend. I’m size 10 but understand that most women aren’t this size.

I’ve found this - a lot of ordinary-looking middle aged men on OLD aren’t interested if women aren’t long-haired gym bunny 20- somethings. I feel like they must always be disappointed- those women are likely going for someone hot their own age! It’s quite depressing. I’m an average-looking fit(ish) 40-something and I don’t think I even get looked at twice.

Listened to my friend ranting about her Tinder experiences the other day and what's shocking is the whole list of things in bed that men there seem to expect as the 'norm'!

A UK size 8-10 isn’t unrealistically skinny. Women who are that size are usually a healthy weight, not under or overweight. Unless they’re really really tall. Just because the norm is a size 16, that doesn’t mean that’s a healthy dress size.

Oh FGS this thread is about OLD expectations not what size Marilyn Monroe actually was and the fact we're all corpulent hippos now.

Most women with a normal BMI are within range size 8-14. I can just about see specifying that as a prerequisite but wanting 8-10 says a lot about the man himself.

And we all know what feminine means . It's always hair and makeup done, high heels and a tinkly laugh, ideally with a job not a career. Think Felicity Kendall or Amanda Holden for role models.

Thank goodness I'm married and too old for that rubbish.

@rookiemere - But there’s nothing wrong with men being attracted to slimmer women, just like some are attracted to bigger women. We all have preferences and we are attracted to what we’re attracted to. It

@kitchentop It may not be the norm in the UK anymore but it still is for most of the world. Obviously its is easier to pack on the weight then it ever has been in throughout human history. However to me it doesn't just indicate a person's health but it also shows a lack of self restraint. Over indulgence in anything is not a good thing imo.

Ultimately people can demand whatever it is they want. Whether they can get it depends on themselves.

I think it's because OLD gives this illusion of choice - almost like a brochure you can choose from - and some forget its a two-way process.
And maybe they get the odd date that meets these criteria and that somehow makes them even pickier (even thought those dates don't turn into relationships).
Or maybe they aren't looking for relationships in the first place.

I think it's because OLD accentuates the visual even more than it usually comes into deciding who we are attracted to. If you meet someone in the 'real world', your attraction or lack of it is a function of their appearance, how they talk, how they behave. On OLD it mostly comes down to a photo.

If you go into any shop you see magazines displayed with perfect individuals. It’s “normal” for a man to have an account on only fans, pay for online porn. And men just haven’t grown up mentally if their shopping list doesn’t include normal individuals. Their screwed idea of what a woman is supposed to deliver is scary. You need to be a shed, great cleaner, bond with their kids like a mother, take on their financial burden, deliver like a poem star in the bedroom, have a high end job with a pay to go with it, and never object to their unrealistic expectations or their hobbies. Not flutter an eyelid if another woman popes out the woodwork either.

A chef not shed

You do know how men and women rate each other on dating sites? Women think 80% of men are 'below average'. So it's not just men who are a bit selective about what they want ...

Well either they are to be sadly disappointed or this approach must work.

Surely these expectations just leave these men shagging their fleshlights? They can have all the expectations in the world but it doesn’t mean anyone is going to take them up on it.

"deliver like a poem star in the bedroom" @Pegsonstrings

Now there's an interesting partner!