Men + unrealistic expectations OLD

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The men I’ve dated from the online world seem to have very unrealistic expectations - young, skinny, ‘feminine’ women etc even though they’ve been absolutely nothing special themselves whatsoever. I guess it’s entitlement?
It seems to be worse in London where I am based. I am originally from outside of the big city and in my hometown men seem to be more realistic and very happy with normal women - not size 8-10 etc
Just wondering is this a London and online dating phenomena?

[quote Holowiwi]@washingtofold

Whether you think it is misogyny or not it does not matter. Men have always picked their partners this way and that won't change. The dating scene is different for both sexes and there are advantages and disadvantages for both, life is not fair.

The problem is a lot of women think that what is makes a man attractive to women is the same thing as what makes a woman attractive to men and that simply is not the case. Sure women can get sex anytime they want regardless of what they look like (this is not the case for men). However it is completely different when it comes to long term relationships.

Personally I think it is a shame that the relationship dynamics between men and women is not great for Gen x and millennial s.[/quote]
I was thinking about this the other day - and I know was telling ek ots 'natural' for men to.like very slim - think ballerina tiny women and actresses who are very slim for the propagation of the species. Except that many women that tiny have menstrual issues(as a result of maintaining unnaturally low body fat) that would prevent them from getting pregnant whilst they are that size. So that doesn't actually make any sense.

Not only that but it doesn't benefit men or women long term if men are always on the lookout for younger models and leave their existing partners to raise children alone. Or are left single because they aren't able to secure the relationships/women they want.

So it doesn't make sense that this is evolutionary.

It's misogyny not evolution.

A man I know not and I know

[quote Holowiwi]@washingtofold

Whether you think it is misogyny or not it does not matter. Men have always picked their partners this way and that won't change. The dating scene is different for both sexes and there are advantages and disadvantages for both, life is not fair.

The problem is a lot of women think that what is makes a man attractive to women is the same thing as what makes a woman attractive to men and that simply is not the case. Sure women can get sex anytime they want regardless of what they look like (this is not the case for men). However it is completely different when it comes to long term relationships.

Personally I think it is a shame that the relationship dynamics between men and women is not great for Gen x and millennial s.[/quote]
Wow that’s a huge load of hogwash
You attempting to make it sound ‘natural ‘ by stating men have ALWAYS chosen their partners this way without considering
A) the cultural and social difference in how partners are chosen
B) the impact of women being treated as second class citizens with no value other than breeding in the past

Guess what else many men have ‘always ‘ done
Slavery
Racism
Child labour
Incest
Beating wife’s and children and treating them as possessions
To claim me , or anyone else not liking this music bust and not calling it out for exactly what it is , is to be EXTREMELY and likely deliberately ignorant of the social conditioning behind why these things happen
Then again I just read another thread where you told a woman she’s in ‘geriatric pregnancy territory’
Wow , are you a person man or woman who knows much ? Anything about women’s oppression throughout history and issues around gender imbalance ?
Exactly what education do you have around these important issues before you come here telling us it’s too bad if we don’t like mysogyny cause it’s just what men have been doing
Go ahead , respond with more nonsense . I won’t be answering . I’ve learnt that some people enjoy or benefit from the ‘mysogyny’ that’s ‘ just what men do’ and are not keen to learn about WHY it’s happening or to see it change
Be better Holowii….

@fantasmasgoria1

Washingtofold - : I was 42 then and 47 now. I was on a paid site because I was told they are better than ones like pof and tinder. I got 1000 plus views and lots of messages. I only really liked my Fiancés profile. He liked similar stuff and didn't state a clothes size etc. I asked him about it and to be honest and he said if I had been up to an 18 that would have been OK for instant attraction but now he said if I put a lot of weight on and got to a size 20 or so he would still find me attractive because he loves me. I did get some dirty messages which I ignored and many men asking me to meet them. Many mens profiles did not state a size, a few said preference for a curvier or slim woman. I got very lucky with my Fiance because he's a genuinely good person, loving, caring, kind, considerate, supportive, understanding, respectful, generous, etc etc.

He sounds lovely and I’m glad you let him fantasmagoria