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Just told DH we don't have to have sex anymore. For his sake.

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Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:07

We just had a big weepy chat by the kitchen sink whilst the kids were playing with their new toys.

We'd been a bit quiet for the past couple of days since I lightly asked if we could have sex sometime this week (it's been 2 months) and he went "Welllllll...." and I was like "wow, shot down!" and he tried to explain but I said "no need, let's just enjoy our night". And we did have a nice night but he was very quiet and preoccupied. There was no need to explain because I knew it was just that he didn't want to.

Because it has been 16 years of me raising the subject every couple of months. And yes we do usually have sex every couple of months. And we both enjoy it SOOO much. And say "we must do that more often". But then it disappears in him for another couple of months and tbh if I had no sex drive we would be completely sexless and he would be fine.

So this morning he asked if I was cross with him and I said I was more cross with myself because I should have said nothing. Because I KNEW. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different answer. And I was sorry for raising it at all, and I needed to accept him the way he was.

And then he got very upset and was like what kind of man am I? I'm supposed to do this. He said "it's never been in me. Not even when I was 19. The other lads would be mad for it and I couldn't understand it because I never needed it at all". And there were tears and us both apologising to each other, him for being the way he is and me for being the way I am.

I told him we could just be pals. Because we are such great pals. He said he didn't want that, that we could find a compromise but I pointed out that the past 16 years have been a compromise and I don't want pity shags every 6 months to keep me happy. I have a vibrator, I will keep my mouth shut and manage. He hates the thought of me unhappy. But I told him I have to learn to be happy with a different kind of relationship and I will keep my needs behind closed doors with my vibrator.

So then I went to have a shower but I am just in the bedroom crying. I wish I was different. I should be different. There are so many women on here who are happy if they never have sex again. I know I can't chop off my groin. But sometimes I wish I could and we would be content, we would be pals forever.

He has never masterbated, he has zero interest in porn. He's definitely not gay. He's just possibly asexual, or at least on that spectrum. I remember when we first moved in together getting a shock that we weren't all over each other now that we had our own place.

We only had sex twice on honeymoon and tbh I initiated both times and the second time was only because he sensed I was getting upset.

I am devastated. I am only 45. I am such a sexual person. I always have been. I want to be wanted so bad. I want to be fancied. But I have realised that if I was a man coming on here and he was the woman, I would get my arse handed to me for not accepting her the way she is.

Please guide me in how to have a sexless relationship that is still close and sweet. Because we love each other so much and I don't want to feel myself pulling away from all affection. But I fear I will do it unconsciously and it will actually affect our marriage going forward.

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Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:10

Well not that he has never masterbated, what I meant was that he had never been someone who needed to that much. He told me once. He does it "the odd time" but I suspect its few and far between.

Whereas I am every day or every second day.

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Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:11

I'm sorry, I realise this is so pathetic on Xmas day.

But who the hell can I ask about this? My friends, my sisters? Nobody.

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Butwhhhyyyyyyy · 25/12/2020 10:13

This may not be relevant but has he had his testosterone levels checked by the gp? if you both want a sexless relationship it may work but I don't know if I personally could live without forever, I only like it every couple of weeks myself.

peboh · 25/12/2020 10:16

I'm sorry op. It must be so difficult.
The issue with a sexless marriage is it only works of both partners are happy to go without sex for the rest of their lives, and you don't sound like you'd be happy with that. I agree with pp, I think it might be worth a chat with the gp to see if there is something else going on. I don't know that feeling how you feel you'd be able to live in a sexless marriage without feeling resentment towards your dh at some point.

AnaisNun · 25/12/2020 10:16

You both sound like wonderful people. I do think though, however much you love this man, and however great friends you are- don’t martyr yourself.

I don’t actually think you would be unreasonable if the gender roles were reversed- and would say the same to a man. What I mean is- this isn’t a temporary postpartum blip, or a hormone issue or breastfeeding making someone feel touched out or exhaustion from young kids or menopause or something that’s likely to be resolvable over time- the things a great swathe of women who say they don’t want to have sex on here would attribute their low sex drive to.

This is a lifelong decision- it’s who he is. So think carefully before you commit to no sex for the rest of your life. It’s a big deal.

Snowy0w1 · 25/12/2020 10:17

Well, I think you can assess whether you want to live live his way. For the future. You've done that in the past.

Nothing destroys the self-esteem like lying next to somebody who either doesn't want you or objectifies you and sex pests you (I had the latter) but in neither of those are you SEEN or valued.

When you're in a bed on your own, it doesn't deplete you. Having chosen to leave, made a decision, acted on it, that will boost your sense of self again.

Sleeping in separate beds would make it less of an ongoing rejection though. Sleeping in the same bed, it's like you're squaring up for rejection constantly. Maybe splitting up isn't for you. Maybe living your own lives in your own bedrooms would suit you better. It sounds like you are close.

pinbinpin · 25/12/2020 10:17

Yes I agree, he should see his GP first before you just accept this. Full checkup, prostate exam and testosterone check.

Marina26 · 25/12/2020 10:17

You are not pathetic at all! I'm so sorry you're in this situation.
I too would feel devastated with this!! Flowers

Quartz2208 · 25/12/2020 10:17

Actually no a man wouldnt - a man does when he is a sex pest and is constantly thinking about it and putting his sexual needs ahead of everything else.

But that isnt what is happening here - you arent abnormal there are very few women who arent happy to never have (good) sex again at all. Because it is a normal and healthy part of a relationship.

The short and sad answer is that you cant OP, you cannot shut off your needs/wants/emotions/feelings like this - a huge part of you because that isnt fair on either of you.

I think you need to find a way to take that close relationship forward into a coparenting amicable situation because this relationship is slowly I think killing you and making you feel like you are wrong and abnormal

Bananahana · 25/12/2020 10:18

Testosterone levels should be checked.

I’m in similar position. DH went to hospital last week about a different issue and they said his levels were low, he’s now been referred to specialist.

RantyAnty · 25/12/2020 10:20

Since he is never interested, would he be open to you finding another partner to have fun with? You could have separate bedrooms and parent together.
Or you could leave him.

missbipolar · 25/12/2020 10:24

Just leave and be happy. Don't stay. With holding affection is also a form of abuse...

Mrsmummy90 · 25/12/2020 10:36

Being rejected constantly is awful and I'm sorry that you're experiencing it. I'm amazed you've managed for this long!
Don't feel bad for having a different sex drive to him. It's neither of your faults.

If you have a naturally high red drive, it's not fair on you to suppress it for the rest of your life. He's getting what he wants and you're not getting anything.

Would he agree to you finding another sexual partner?
Would you be happier separating and finding someone with a matching sex drive down the road?

You say you want to be pals so why not just do that and you find someone who gives you the affection you need?

AtlasPine · 25/12/2020 10:41

@missbipolar

Just leave and be happy. Don't stay. With holding affection is also a form of abuse...
I don’t think that’s what the OP said is happening.
NewlyGranny · 25/12/2020 10:42

Have you asked him why he decided to marry you without telling you, thus short-changing you for life?

A visit to the GP and onward referral will determine whether there is a hormonal or even genetic reason for his nature; he may even be an xxy individual with Klinefelter syndrome or some other anomaly. Do you have children together? You don't mention any.

Blahblahblahzz · 25/12/2020 10:43

Negotiate an agreement with your DH & find a FWB who’s in the same situation. Working out the terms will take a bit of emotional back and and forth but if you’re essentially happy in this marriage you can find what’s lacking elsewhere.

Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:44

Leave?

Leave the best man I've ever met? He's an absolute star. He's the most supportive man on earth. No way.

Just to go fuck some other guy? Really?

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Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:44

People actually do that? The rest of the relationship must have been shit.

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Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:47

Sorry, I didnt expect people to go immediately to

LEAVE OR GET A FUCK BUDDY.

I know this is MN, maybe this was silly. Thanks anyway. Xxx

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Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:48

Sorry. I had my shower, ill manage. Sorry to disturb Xmas day. I was just so upset at the time. But I'm going to find a way to manage. He is worth it.

Happy Christmas everyone. Xx

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HollyandIvyandallthingsYule · 25/12/2020 10:49

Lots of women like lots of sex (I am one of them) and lots of men don’t. So please don’t imagine you’re alone as a woman in feeling this way. I’m lucky that my DH and I have compatible sex drives; I know that I would absolutely die inside if I were in a long term relationship where there wasn’t that lust and sexual spark/chemistry and exactly like you said, wanting and being wanted. I understand how you must be feeling. I imagine it’s especially awful if everything else in the relationship is good, because then can you really justify walking away? So you end up feeling trapped in a very sad place.

Anyway, I just wanted to give you an Un-MNetty hug and wish you peace. I hope the universe gives you a little sign today to say that everything is going to be okay.🎄

Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:51

We don't have a spare bedroom.

Not sure about asking him to get levels checked.

I have a vague vague memory of them being checked years ago and they were fine?

But I may be wrong. Delicate to bring it up though. You're basically telling someone there must be something abnormal about their entire system to be this way.

And I suspect he's normal anyway if my vague memory is correct. I couldn't trust my memory 100% though.

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Quartz2208 · 25/12/2020 10:52

OP he made me a very good man, he may even be the best man but he ISNT the best man for you because you are not who you should be.

It is about leaving or finding someone else it is about the fact that you are upset

And is he really worth it - does he really get what he is asking you to do. Have you actually explained to him how this makes you feel because you seem to be martyring yourself because he is the best man

Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:52

Sorry I just didn't want it to seem I was ignoring the other comments, I just got a bit of a shock at the main ones.

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Nowstrong · 25/12/2020 10:53

SO, so sorry you are upset. He's your star. I admire that you have talked about it. So many people don't. It all gets scraped under the carpet. Let this go for a while. It's too soon after your talk. You can and will get through this. Either with your sex toy or by other means. The main thing is to be communicating. Try and enjoy your Xmas day. x