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Just told DH we don't have to have sex anymore. For his sake.

316 replies

Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:07

We just had a big weepy chat by the kitchen sink whilst the kids were playing with their new toys.

We'd been a bit quiet for the past couple of days since I lightly asked if we could have sex sometime this week (it's been 2 months) and he went "Welllllll...." and I was like "wow, shot down!" and he tried to explain but I said "no need, let's just enjoy our night". And we did have a nice night but he was very quiet and preoccupied. There was no need to explain because I knew it was just that he didn't want to.

Because it has been 16 years of me raising the subject every couple of months. And yes we do usually have sex every couple of months. And we both enjoy it SOOO much. And say "we must do that more often". But then it disappears in him for another couple of months and tbh if I had no sex drive we would be completely sexless and he would be fine.

So this morning he asked if I was cross with him and I said I was more cross with myself because I should have said nothing. Because I KNEW. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different answer. And I was sorry for raising it at all, and I needed to accept him the way he was.

And then he got very upset and was like what kind of man am I? I'm supposed to do this. He said "it's never been in me. Not even when I was 19. The other lads would be mad for it and I couldn't understand it because I never needed it at all". And there were tears and us both apologising to each other, him for being the way he is and me for being the way I am.

I told him we could just be pals. Because we are such great pals. He said he didn't want that, that we could find a compromise but I pointed out that the past 16 years have been a compromise and I don't want pity shags every 6 months to keep me happy. I have a vibrator, I will keep my mouth shut and manage. He hates the thought of me unhappy. But I told him I have to learn to be happy with a different kind of relationship and I will keep my needs behind closed doors with my vibrator.

So then I went to have a shower but I am just in the bedroom crying. I wish I was different. I should be different. There are so many women on here who are happy if they never have sex again. I know I can't chop off my groin. But sometimes I wish I could and we would be content, we would be pals forever.

He has never masterbated, he has zero interest in porn. He's definitely not gay. He's just possibly asexual, or at least on that spectrum. I remember when we first moved in together getting a shock that we weren't all over each other now that we had our own place.

We only had sex twice on honeymoon and tbh I initiated both times and the second time was only because he sensed I was getting upset.

I am devastated. I am only 45. I am such a sexual person. I always have been. I want to be wanted so bad. I want to be fancied. But I have realised that if I was a man coming on here and he was the woman, I would get my arse handed to me for not accepting her the way she is.

Please guide me in how to have a sexless relationship that is still close and sweet. Because we love each other so much and I don't want to feel myself pulling away from all affection. But I fear I will do it unconsciously and it will actually affect our marriage going forward.

OP posts:
Fredelliottisayfredelliott · 25/12/2020 10:53

I would say he should see his GP, there may be a medical/ hormonal issue at play. You both obviously love eachother so just leaving is not really sensible at this stage. I wish you both well

Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 10:55

Yes these conversations have been ongoing since we moved in together. At one point when we were engaged I had to get a "not more than 3 weeks" pact out of him because I was feeling so undesirable and I was crying.

He felt absolutely awful and did his duty every 3 (or 4) weeks thereafter.

He even said it this morning "this has always been a problem, it's always been me".

OP posts:
maybebe · 25/12/2020 10:55

I think you're a little harsh OP, leave or get a fuck buddy. I don't think there's anything wrong necessarily with having a fuck buddy. We have girl friends who give us emotional support that maybe a husband or male partner can't. We might play a sport with someone if our partner isn't interested in that, or share a hobby with another person. We have different relationships with different people in our lives. Sex does not have to be different. For many yes, absolutely it requires an emotional connection, but also - maybe it can be just sex. If you're masturbating on your own, I don't think it's totally outlandish to suggest you could find a nice, willing partner to fulfil your need for sex outside of your marriage. A lot of people have an open or polyamorous relationship and they make it work.

Not suggesting doing it behind your husband's back, but with his full knowledge, consent and understanding. You're obviously communicating with him and you're both understanding of the other's needs. I hope you can work it out.

Blahblahblahzz · 25/12/2020 10:56

Not sure what you wanted people to say. It seems you’re experiencing a lot of trauma and upset and people were offering solutions which would make you happier.

xmas20 · 25/12/2020 10:56

Just sending you support and a hand hold. There's nothing wrong with you. I would feel the exact same.

RealisticSketch · 25/12/2020 10:56

I think your love and bond is wonderful. I don't know how to adjust to a sexless relationship if it's not what you want, though I am currently reading a biography of someone who did exactly that successfully. But if you do both enjoy the sex you have, can it carry on at that sort of level so that at least you have that bond together?
I am very low on libido but it hasn't been this way all my life, so I'm going to see if it is something hrt can help with.
If he's been like this forever perhaps that wouldn't work, but maybe it's worth exploring, not to change who he is, but he is a person who enjoys sex when he does have it, and hormones are very powerful things, it might be a version of who he is which he could benefit from enhancing himself?

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 25/12/2020 10:56

@NewlyGranny

Have you asked him why he decided to marry you without telling you, thus short-changing you for life?

A visit to the GP and onward referral will determine whether there is a hormonal or even genetic reason for his nature; he may even be an xxy individual with Klinefelter syndrome or some other anomaly. Do you have children together? You don't mention any.

Other than the ones playing with their toys in the lounge...?!
WomenWhoWalk · 25/12/2020 11:00

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Snowy0w1 · 25/12/2020 11:01

I don't think you should necessarily stay forever, or never consider sleeping with somebody else, but ''leave or get a fuckbuddy'' is a really unhelpful post. MAYBE you might end up finding somebody to sleep with and that might help a bit........ but it'd be a confusion of sorts.

funfunfunfunfun · 25/12/2020 11:03

I couldn't be in a marriage like that. Missing a persons touch. I like being affectionate and having a sex life. He maybe a good man but he can still be a good man and a good parent on his own whilst you could have a relationship with someone that you want.

Xmasdaymam · 25/12/2020 11:05

This was a mistake. Thanks to those who offered hugs.

I Just wanted people to tell me how to try it. But I was stupid.

Happy Xmas everyone.

Xx

OP posts:
ChristmasBubble · 25/12/2020 11:08

There isn't anything wrong with you. There isn't anything wrong with him (necessarily) but bringing two people together with such varying needs is the problem. I think you probably need to grieve for what you've lost by being with him. Only then might you be able to come to terms with it.

I don't think I could do it myself.

NoProblem123 · 25/12/2020 11:09

You were not sexually compatible from the outset but you decided to compromise because of his other qualities. He’s not going to change and neither are you. You need to continue your compromise.
You’ve got toys, maybe get some new ones.

EarthSight · 25/12/2020 11:09

Oh God. Everything is a form of abuse to some commentators on here!!

EarthSight · 25/12/2020 11:10

@EarthSight

Oh God. Everything is a form of abuse to some commentators on here!!
@missbipolar
gamerchick · 25/12/2020 11:11

@Xmasdaymam

Sorry, I didnt expect people to go immediately to

LEAVE OR GET A FUCK BUDDY.

I know this is MN, maybe this was silly. Thanks anyway. Xxx

So what we're you expecting?

One day this will become a massive issue, the intamacy will die and you'll feel resentful. You could always let the years go by until menopause and hope the horn doesn't come back afterwards.

Then your life will have been wasted on some level.

I personally would end my marriage if sex wasn't on the cards ever again, it's a deal breaker. No matter how lovely he is.

Littleyell · 25/12/2020 11:12

@Xmasdaymam I think you have been doing really well OP even the way you approached your DH. I don’t think you should leave. Can you try some sort of therapists?

I can see why you agreed to no more sex.... but I think it’s not the right solution.

The fact that when you and your DH do have sex enjoy it is a huge positive.

SweatyBetty20 · 25/12/2020 11:14

I’m sorry you’re upset - just different opinions I guess. I’m 48 and have started seeing a guy who has really bad ED. We’ve managed penetration a few times but he’s never managed to ejaculate inside me. I know that the first few months of a relationship are always the honeymoon period but I have a feeling he is a keeper.

We had to have a chat about it - he was devastated that things weren’t working in that area. But, he is very good with his hands, and most importantly, he is really conscious of my need for intimacy, even if penetration is off the table. In addition, over the last three years my libido has gone down - it’s still there but I’m not masturbating every day like I was in my 30’s and early 40’s. I had to think - if this is as good as it gets, is this enough? And for me, I think it is.

What I’m trying to say is, if sex wasn’t on the table as much, but intimacy - kissing, cuddling, touching, etc was - would that be enough? If your sex drive ends up going down because of the menopause (and I know that doesn’t happen to everyone), and the intimacy was there, would it help?

wizzywig · 25/12/2020 11:14

Same situation op. He wont 'allow' me to see someone else, so I've gone on the pill (in the past it's killed my sex drive. Unfortunately not this time), and I continue on antidepressants because I'm so unhappy. I have no answers, but I do understand

DishedUp · 25/12/2020 11:15

I think leaving is a valid option though OP

You are greiving at the minute. You are greiving for the relationship you clearly want but have never had and have come to the realisation that you arent ever going to have. Unless you leave.

I understand you love him, but can you really give up the rest of your life? You are clearly not happy right now. You will never have another life.

I dont think you need to leave this very second. But in the long run give it some consideration. Theres nothing wrong with wanting sex with your husband, and actually very few people would be genuinly happy to never have sex again. If you are going to stay make sure its what you genuinly want, and dont stay out of fear of change or because you dont want to hurt him.

Purplethrow · 25/12/2020 11:15

Would he agree to satisfy you without full sex ? Maybe that would be a compromise?

Charlie63849 · 25/12/2020 11:19

How is he the best man you have ever met when you have constantly been crying about the same thing for 16 years.

He may be a good man but he’s not the best man for you. You are not compatible, it doesn’t matter how much you try and pretend you are, you are not.

I’d personally bring up about you getting your needs met somewhere else discreetly if he doesn’t want to bother.

Snowy0w1 · 25/12/2020 11:20

you weren't stupid! You're at a cross roads, you're re-orientating and you're not so arrogant as to think that other perspectives are USELESS to you.

You're normal and you're wise.

Littleyell · 25/12/2020 11:20

@missbipolar

Just leave and be happy. Don't stay. With holding affection is also a form of abuse...
I doubt OPs DH is been abusive. She met him like this from the start. Some posters are being quite bitchy.... OP could leave yes and that will solve the lack of sex but then she will have a lack of other things also...

OP needs to get her DH to seek professional help he sounds like he has an issue.

Charlie63849 · 25/12/2020 11:20

Or give some thought on leaving.