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Online dating in your 50's - mark 2

344 replies

Fiftyandmore · 23/11/2020 12:56

Here we still are :)

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WeWantTheFinestWines · 23/11/2020 13:14

Hi @Fiftyandmore thanks for the new thread.

Daftapath · 23/11/2020 13:19

Hello all. Hope the link I posted does work! Haven't done links on here for a very long time!

@WeWantTheFinestWines that sounds very hard. I think that you have done the right think to delete him on social media. That should help to keep him out of your head so you can continue to move on.

When I broke up with someone last year, I used tapping to get over the first awful months. Still use it every now and again for all sorts of things. Lots of links on YouTube and doesn't take loads of time. It's a bit woo but if it helps ...

@Lamppostcat I completely agree with what you wrote about women being trained to believe that we lose value as we get older. We mustn't perpetuate that myth!

TiggerDatter · 23/11/2020 13:44

Thanks for the new thread OP.

God I hate that sort of 'value' bollocks. Clearly there was no 'psychologist' etc, it was just a misogynistic windup. Especially the idea that only men get richer as they get older Angry

Who votes for deleting all social media as a way of getting perspective on life and also not being reminded of past people? Except Mumsnet of course!

Fiftyandmore · 23/11/2020 14:43

You're very welcome :)

I'd wiped that post from my memory until I read @lampostcat's splendid post.

I don't have FB or Instagram or whatever else there is. My problem is my own mind - I keep going over and over and over things sometimes until I feel like I'm losing my grip. What I wouldn't give for an off-switch sometimes.

My afternoon has taken a slight turn for the better - I've found some biscuits in my desk drawer as a welcome back gesture after my week off :)

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Fiftyandmore · 23/11/2020 14:46

I've heard of tapping but don't know much about it. I'm going to look it up when I get home.

Tomorrow would have been my dh's 56th birthday and I'm feeling incredibly sad today :(. Last night I was reading a pretty crap book tbh, but there was one paragraph which, completely unexpectedly, got me. I started sobbing out loud which is not something I do that often these days.

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soyabean · 23/11/2020 14:48

Thanks for the new thread. I'll carry on reading and see if it helps me to pluck up courage to try OLD. I don't know if I'm sure enough that I want to. partly I'm reasonably happy on my own, and partly I'm nervous of rejection, and actually also nervous about how to chat and be relaxed, funny etc with new men. I'm generally someone who takes a while to warm up with people. (Also risk averse and struggle to venture out of comfort zone)

TiggerDatter · 23/11/2020 15:26

Ah @Fiftyandmore I'm sorry to hear you are sad. I guess it must be very hard around the times of birthdays/anniversaries/Christmas. I hope you can hug it out with family?

And yes, if someone invented an on/off switch for thinking they would deserve to be super-rich (purveyors of alcohol/drugs aside). I take myself off for a drive if I can't break the cycle/spiral - concentrating on the road and the car seems to do the trick for me.

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WeWantTheFinestWines · 23/11/2020 15:40

So sorry Fifty that must be awful. You clearly miss him so much. Thank you for your support. I'll look into tapping.

WeWantTheFinestWines · 23/11/2020 15:47

I manage to distract myself most of the time but find night time difficult. Lights off, and then the thoughts come crashing in.

So I now listen to a podcast called Sleep With Me. It's this American guy, who does not have a soothing voice at all, but somehow manages to strike a balance between being interesting enough that you can focus on him and not let other thoughts in, and uninteresting enough that you will drift off. Might not be your cup of tea, but it's been a bit of a life saver for me.

DustyMuse · 23/11/2020 16:28

Thank you for this shiny new thread Fiftyandmore!

I'm very sorry you've been feeling so lost and bereft without your husband, Fifty. Sad Grief is a slippery so-and-so; I lost my father three years ago, who was my pillar and generally an amazing person (not perfect though, thank goodness), and the grief never goes away, does it? It changes form, sometimes more intense, sometimes more gentle, but it's always there.

DustyMuse · 23/11/2020 16:39

So, I was liked on the OLD French site I'm on by a 58 year old a few days ago. I turned 52 yesterday. He wrote me a message which I liked a lot, although I have to be careful as I am attracted to passionate men, and need to be cautious. I was miraculously able to send him a message back despite not having a proper account. I sent him my 'phone number. An hour later he sent me an sms asking if he could call me. I replied that I was celebrating my birthday so suggested tomorrow. He replied with a short, pleasant message.

This morning, after reflection, I wrote him a message explaining that I would be hugely busy this week as I was starting up a third job and wouldn't have the time for a proper chat but added that I would be free this weekend if he didn't mind waiting so long. I've been learning about setting boundaries for myself and knowing my limits. I was curious to see if he answered or not. He replied later in the morning that it was no trouble waiting and that he would look forward to chatting on Sunday.

This is a tiny babystep for me after months off the apps. I am very cynical about all potential dates and have quite frankly reached that stage in life when I've accepted being single and will only accept cautiously to meet someone as an added bonus.

Sorry if this post is longwinded and tedious. It's been a long day. Smile

DustyMuse · 23/11/2020 16:41

He said he looked forward to chatting on Saturday, not Sunday.

DustyMuse · 23/11/2020 16:42

That podcast sounds good, WeWantTheFinestWines.

Daftapath · 23/11/2020 16:59

@Fiftyandmore Tap with Brad is the guy I use the most on YouTube. Grief is a funny thing. Definitely ebbs and flows with unexpected triggers that throw us. I hope that your DH's birthday passes not too painfully tomorrow but more with lots of thoughts of happy memories of time past.

@soyabean I can identify with all of your doubts and can only say to dip your toe in when ready and that the 'out of my comfort zone' feeling has definitely reduced but pops up still at times.

@DustyMuse sounds as though he is keen to chat to you and it's a good sign that he is happy to wait until the weekend.

hotchocolatey · 23/11/2020 17:10

@WeWantTheFinestWines sorry you are feeling hurt.

In a way social media can provide a bit of closure.

HairyArsedMan · 23/11/2020 17:42

I feel for you @WeWantTheFinestWines. I've been there; waking up and your first thought is that this another day of absence, struggling to sleep knowing that is also what awaits the next day, things rearing up on you in the shower, driving, doing the dishes, no concentration. 3 months is not a long time to pass when it comes to grief, which it is. I'm all for practicing gratitude but pour all of the affection and goodwill you have for him into yourself because you need it more than he does.

WeWantTheFinestWines · 23/11/2020 17:54

@HairyArsedMan thank you for such compassionate words, which of course have made me cry. I thought I was doing ok, but this has set me back and made me realise I still have strong feelings for him and miss him being a part of my life so much. Your experience still sounds raw. I hope you are looking back on those dark days from a better place. I know I will, one day. Until then I will put my brave face back on and grieve on my own, or with friends when I'm allowed to see them again.

This thread really is the most extraordinarily supportive place.

Greyandrare123 · 23/11/2020 18:18

@wewantthefinestwines. Ive no wise words but its gut wrenching. Its very hard not to spiral into thinking negative thoughts. I know I have been there where Ive felt like Ive been punched in the abdomen and wondering what I didnt have compared to this new person. Ive also been guilty of seeing past relationships through rose colour specs.
When I start feeling upset, alert and self sabotaging I distract myself and stop the comparisons by trying to think the reality. My ex and his new GF are just people. No more than that. Just people.
@Fiftyandmore thank you for the new thread. Grief is so unpredictable and even with good management it shows itself in unexpected times. Just be so kind to yourself and make all necessary arrangements to do nice things.
So I had meeting 3 with the Fab swinger that isnt actually a swinger at all and in fact doesnt appear to have had much action for a long time. Another walk and a long chat. We cover it all and I like his sensible approach, his intelligence and his balanced outlook. I told him I find him attractive and so far, like his character. He complimented me. So we are out again Wed. He says he really likes our walks and when restrictions are over we can discuss what happens next.
Another Fab man has reappeared and asked if I want to go for coffee. I will next week maybe. I dont want to have multiple fwbs and talking to fab#1 he doesnt too but I have to be mindful this is a casual sex arrangement at the end of the day and not get caught up with the potential given we talk for an age..

WeWantTheFinestWines · 23/11/2020 18:50

Greyandrare those are very wise words. Just people. Thank you.
Your fabswinger sounds fab. Sounds like it could lead to more than fwb 😊

Techway · 23/11/2020 19:06

Fifty, thanks for the new thread. I don't think you ever forget but perhaps some days are easier but there will be other days when it feels very raw.

It must be a pretty low time as I'm also having some down days and I think it's the focus of Christmas. This year I am without my children, normally I would be surrounded by family but of course this year is different. Sometimes it hits me how much my life has changed and how it isnt how I thought it would be or how I want it to be. My siblings are all very happily coupled up so it can feel lonely in a room full of people.

@soyabean, I know how you feel. I was exactly like that and read threads and could believe some people just found OLD easy. I took a step a few months ago and was terrified but surprisingly I have got used to it. I think my first date I treated like a job interview but learned from that. Can't say I get it right but I am learning.

Grey, sounds great and so glad its going well. Is he also on other sites or just focusing on FAB?

This weeks really annoying trends...men wearing face masks and photos of them 30 years ago..Why? Do they really think women are interested in the fact they haven't aged well??

Fiftyandmore · 23/11/2020 19:24

@DustyMuse happy belated birthday for yesterday. I hope it was a good one for you. The man you've been messaging sounds like he's respectful of your wishes. Your post wasn't long winded at all, and it's great to hear that you feel able to set boundaries.

Thanks all for the kind words. In the last 5 years I've lost my dad, my aunty who was like a grandma, dh, and my mum. I think I said on the last thread that I fell into a relationship about a year after dh died. When that ended last year, not only did it feel like yet another loss, I felt as if it had distracted me from grieving properly for dh, and I suddenly had more stuff to deal with :(.

I have fab friends, and amazing dc, and I try so hard to be optimistic. I think I manage it most of the time, but every now and then I get a "no, no more, can't do it" moment. So it's wonderful to come here and share our highs and lows, and I can't remember who said it, but you are indeed all very supportive and lovely.

It's interesting that a few of us are feeling low - it makes me think of how when women live together their periods are meant to eventually synchronise! And @HairyArsedMan your words about waking up knowing there's another day of absence to get through etc were scarily accurate. You've been doing that mind reading trick again haven't you?!

Flowers for us all :)

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Redfox · 23/11/2020 21:34

Found you all.

Condolences to those who have lost people/ missing people. I mean grief never goes away does it? I just wear it better and it is part of the backdrop off my life now
I enjoy Sundays to be honest but not so Mondays, work is too stressful.
Have deleted my match account as I was never going to pay up.
Maybe mass cat ownership is the way forward..

HairyArsedMan · 23/11/2020 21:50

@WeWantTheFinestWines I'm sorry that you felt all churned up again- you really will be ok. However I suspect dating will feel like a very hollow experience for you right now and probably won't be the distraction you need.

Thanks for your concern, it's not raw for me, I'm ok apart from the chastening memory of what it felt like to have to go through it.

My weekend date has had a change of heart. I'm glad she let me know right away and given me chance to make alternative plans.

HairyArsedMan · 23/11/2020 21:57

@Fiftyandmore Really sorry you've had such an amount of grief to get through. I experienced that linking of present grief to past grief too. It's weird (and horrible) how you think you're over many things and find out they're still there. Have you come across the Griefcast podcast ?

Redfox · 23/11/2020 22:02

Oh I second the Griefcast podcast, it is very good listening.