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Bobbins · 16/09/2002 20:22

OK, as many of you will know, my partner and I are going through very difficult times at the moment. I feel like he just can't face these problems and prefers to stay out night after night. Sometimes I wonder what I ever saw in him. How could I have had a child with such a man. The problems started from when I was first pregnant really. I obviously had to give up a large part of my social life, but my partner saw no reason why he should. I have tried to negotiate compromises...eg; you can go out whenever you want, just don't come back really drunk, and let me know when you will be home. If I know what's going to happen, then I can make alternative arrangements.

Now though, it seems that we do not have any kind of a life together. The only time we spend together is tense.

The sad thing is, Ireally feel like I need him now. When I try to talk about these problems calmly he acts like I'm taking the p*, or like a social worker. If I get angry he thinks I'm acting like I'm in the right, little miss perfect..... blah de blah. I've never claimed to be perfect. I think when you have children (lose children) there is and inevitability that you are going to change. I would like to go out with him, and come home before the daylight. This seems impossible at the moment. I wish I was able to say that this relationship is doing me no favours, and get out, but I've been through so much upheaval recently I don't feel strong enough. BUT, being with him is making me constantly anxious, not least because I worry about him, his health, his finances, his well being.

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Bobbins · 10/10/2002 12:18

I think I'd at least have to do the pouring a drink over them 'thing'. Am I above this? No I don't think I am!

I have recently found that some of our mutual friends have also noticed there is something sus going on between them, no matter how much they deny it. One friend has confronted them about it in a pub. I find this reassuring...I am not imagining it...and I am not goin mad.

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Rhubarb · 10/10/2002 15:05

Hmmm, as far as revenge ideas go..... Isn't there a website full of revenge ideas somewhere? Not that I'm condoning it of course, but some people deserve it. Lets hope she loses all her friends and her reputation. I wonder if her work colleagues know........? As for him, well he needs a good slapping I think. Or red chilli pepper in his undies!

Seriously though, you have a good case if he has caused the marriage breakdown. Can't you go round to his parents, explain the situation and ask if he can live there? You really do need him out of your life right now. Get his parents on your side now. Take his keys away and leave his luggage outside. Anything to show that you mean business. A short sharp shock is what this man needs. And she needs her lights punching out - where did you say she lived?!

Bumblelion · 10/10/2002 15:26

Bobbins, I really do feel for you, not because you have my sympathy, but because I have been there before. Please do not lose your self-respect and know that you are not the "bad" person in all of this. You will get through all the sh*t that is going on in your life and you will come out the other side.

Tortington · 10/10/2002 19:09

i dont know what to say other than im thinking of you and hope it gets better soon. BTW where is this revenge site rhuby... i think i would like to call on it myself from time to time

ks · 10/10/2002 19:18

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WideWebWitch · 10/10/2002 19:38

custardo, there's a revenge site here . Looks like it's about annoying people but is not illegal stuff. I still think Tigermoth's quote "the best revenge is living well" is probably a better way

bossykate · 10/10/2002 20:43

bobbins, i echo ks's sentiments, your story has really moved me and i have been very impressed by your courage. i'm so sorry this sequence of events has happened to you - there are no words really. all i can say is - very best of luck, you deserve a happier situation than you have now. well done for coping so brilliantly up to now.

take care.

SimonHoward · 11/10/2002 12:08

Bobbins

If you really really want to get some subtle revenge on him then get some Aniseed oil and put it on the wheels of his car.

I guarantee he will not know what is happening and he will pay for it.

spacemonkey · 11/10/2002 12:12

SimonHoward, what does aniseed oil do to car wheels exactly??? Most intrigued ...

Tortington · 11/10/2002 13:44

me too (intrigued that is) and thanks for revenge link

Rhubarb · 11/10/2002 14:33

There was a lovely clip on Tarrant on TV last night - this Chinese bloke had had his manhood chopped off by his wife (who later tried feeding it to a duck) because she found out of his affair. He was going to have a penile reconstruction. When asked for a comment he smiled and said "I now know it is better to stick to one woman!"

Tissy · 11/10/2002 14:41

Aren't dogs attracted to aniseed? Perhaps it encourages the local mutts to leave their "mark" all over his car :0 come on, SH, tell us!

Bobbins · 11/10/2002 19:29

I really want to say something here, but don't feel its appropriate Perhaps a name change is in order, no, I'll just save it for the meet up!

I've looked on the revenge website. You are all EVIL but I like you

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Willow2 · 12/10/2002 00:08

Bobbins - xxxx him and all who sail in him. Completely agree with Rhubarb - get his parents onside and get him out. Don't you have any male friends who can help you chuck him out? He really doesn't deserve access to your home anymore - and she really does deserve a good kicking... after Rhubarb has punched her lights out. What a cow.

Anyway matey, chin up, we're all here for you.

SimonHoward - come on, tell us about the aniseed.....

Temples · 12/10/2002 02:07

Am I the only one who is REALLY uncomfortable with talk of revenge? Is it not just lowering yourself?

robinw · 12/10/2002 07:02

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SoupDragon · 12/10/2002 08:45

Temples, I don't have a problem with the talk of revenge. As Robinw says, it lets off steam and all the scheming is a bit of fun. Putting it into action is indeed a completely different thing.

I want to know about the aniseed oil too!

tigermoth · 12/10/2002 09:58

Yes, I think talking about revenge like this is theraputic. Dare I say it's good to turn it into a joke and laugh about it with friends - even if the reasons that bought you to that point are serious. Anything that helps you let off steam. I must check out that website.

However, to me, revenge taken to its limits also equals obsession with the hated person as well as an inabilty to move on from the past. If all your energy is taken up planning revenge, it's difficult to buile a new life.

Is that what you're getting at, temple?

Willow2 · 12/10/2002 10:07

totally agree - verbalising just what you think of people and how you'd get your own back (in an ideal world) is IMO extremely cathartic and very different to actual physical violence or damage.

WideWebWitch · 12/10/2002 10:16

Temples, I know what you mean. I think the need/want for revenge is probably unpleasant in the way that jealousy is but it doesn't stop us feeling it sometimes. Vengeful, I mean. It's one of the natural human reactions to pain, isn't it? Hence all the Hollywood tag lines "He was hurt. And SOMEONE had to pay...etc" I think it's probably a pretty universal feeling, the desire for revenge. However, whilst I think talking about revenge can be helpful, carrying it out is another matter entirely, as Tigermoth said. And I do agree that the best revenge is living well: i.e moving on and being happy.

Sweet revenge though, IMO, is when what goes around comes around and it's nothing to do with you but you can still feel a sense of shadenfreude (or however it's spelt!) and stay on the moral high ground

Clarinet60 · 12/10/2002 18:53

Oh Willow2, please don't have all your posts deleted, you're such a tonic!

Bobbins, hope things clear up soon. I keep hoping this and keep thinking about you lots.

Willow2 · 13/10/2002 09:59

Droile - ta v much.

Willow2 · 13/10/2002 10:07

PS - where do you live? Any chance of you coming to the west londong meet up on Friday or are you on the other side of the world (or London which can amount to pretty much the same thing thanks to Ken "I think I'll change all the traffic light timings and whack in loads of roadworks for now - and then take them all away before my congestion charges start so that traffic runs freely and everybody thinks I'm brilliant" Livingstone's barmy plans.

Willow2 · 13/10/2002 10:08

I meant west london - we don't have many long dongs round here, more's the pity.

Clarinet60 · 13/10/2002 21:31

Willow2, spluttered with laughter so much at this that DH is in danger of looking round, seeing my nickname and reading all my posts about him.
Nor do we have many long dongs round here, unfortunately - I'm in the North West, but I presume you meant Bobbins. Either way, no chance of coming to the meet-up, but v. jealous and nostalgic as I used to live in Crouch End.

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