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DH has been using cam/chat site **Title edited by MNHQ**

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where2begin · 02/07/2020 13:17

Just discovered that my DP has been using the website chaturbate.
I'm devastated. We literally just reserved a house.

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Socialdistancegintonic · 04/07/2020 13:22

Post your husband watches live private sex shows - that's fine, it's just porn, all men do it
@QuentinWinters

I also completely agree with Quentin and hope you are OK.

It feels painful to admit this - but my first Ex started to go off me when I was pregnant. I had such a horrible lonely time. He was so distant with me, when I wanted to just have a some lovely affectionate time. Like just watch TV together, make nice meals, shop for baby clothes. Birth was horrendous and I was very ill. Two months after the birth my Ex said that ‘he loved me but wasn’t in love with me anymore’. I left when our child was just a young baby and it was so hard doing everything by myself. I’ve never felt so let down. Ex told me that he didn’t think I was ‘that into sex’ and that ‘maybe I was a lesbian’. He complained while I was pregnant and after that I ‘didn’t really give enough blow jobs’. He would say that he felt very frustrated he didn’t have enough sex. Yet he didn’t want me. Or sometimes he would but it seemed to be completely bypassing ‘me’ if that makes sense, and felt totally wrong, or just wanted me to give him a blow job and that was it, so I’d say ‘this doesn’t feel great or loving’ and he’d get angry, and then in a mood for days.

Ex had started to watch porn while I was pregnant. Lots of women with massive boobs and tiny waists. Giving blow jobs and taking hard sex I imagine. All the while I was just dying for some affection, I felt really alone and vulnerable. My own body changing. I felt quite sexual and yet all my advances, like kisses, cuddles, wanting loving sex, were spurned. I wondered if my changing body was repulsive.

There were other reasons that we separated of course. But I do believe that my Ex was watching porn and it led to his love for me completely dying - sex and love in a relationship are entertwined - but you watch Porn and it takes a huge great chainsaw through loving sex. Not least because you are watching people have sex for money, when they feel no love whatsoever. Lust by itself without love or respect is a power play.

And sorry to be so frank about sex here. However this is what this thread is about. I’ve not idea how some woman can compartmentalise and say that ‘their man watched porn’ and it’s normal, and it doesn’t affect their relationship. Of course it does. No man or woman NEEDS porn when they have a real live person that they can have great, loving sex with. It’s so fucked up but it causes huge damage.

It took me several years to recover my self esteem about my own sexuality. I had been rejected and crushed. Ex is now with a woman half his age who is obsessed with having the perfect tanned body etc. There is no surprise here that directing your sexual energy into such a dark, superficial world affects your real life attitudes and world. And now there is a child who has grown up without a family around him, and had to suffer those consequences.

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where2begin · 04/07/2020 13:22

@Boopthesnoot1 how do you know for sure?

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Boopthesnoot1 · 04/07/2020 13:39

At first I used to recover deleted internet history, check 'watched videos' on YouTube because I didn't want to be the fool. I didn't need to though, he really was so upset that he had done that to me (again and again) and he stopped looking at porn. I'm a very strong female, not one to stay in a relationship and take shit.
For a very long time I couldn't dress up nice for him cause I felt insecure. I know it's hard now but that man you have wants to build a life with you and deep down you know that he is a twat or if he made a stupid mistake. (A stupid mistake that f*cking kills you inside and it's completely not fair you're the one reaping the pain for his actions but it's a mistake)

We sat down and talked 100 times about how hurt I was and he was totally understanding everytime on why I felt that way, that helped a lot. Some days I couldn't touch him, others I would be ok. He stayed by my side regardless how bad I treated him.

I think you know deep down who he is, trust your gut, if it was a mistake, it was a mistake but you will need time to forgive him but you will and things can move past this.

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where2begin · 04/07/2020 14:04

How the hell do you recover deleted internet history?

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Busybee2912 · 04/07/2020 14:09

@Socialdistancegintonic I completely agree with you. I don’t see why some people can’t just be happy with the person they’re with for sexual fulfilment either. For me, it’s a dealbreaker and I hate how you get labelled as jealous or neurotic for holding this view.

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KeepHimJolene · 04/07/2020 14:29

@GilbertMarkham and @SandyY2K DP has never been on the site he just told me where men see the ad. To qualify, I was talking about Adult sites in general not the one the OP mentioned. But men are all visiting them. 100% true. You just don't know about it. If your DP says he never goes on adult sites they are a) simply not being truthful and b) have better IT skills than you and use private browsing. See reality it's 2020, watching porn does not constitute addiction or an affair any more than visiting Mumsnet daily and joining the judgy brigade

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Busybee2912 · 04/07/2020 14:34

@KeepHimJolene just because yours does, doesn’t mean all men do. THAT’S judgemental.

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Busybee2912 · 04/07/2020 14:36

Also, whether a person would consider it “an affair” or not is their own right, as a boundary they’re entitled to expect in their relationship. I couldn’t care less what year it is. I still wouldn’t allow it.

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Oopsiedaisyy · 04/07/2020 14:42

It's not an affair, it's not the same as the earlier poster whose DH has been having an online affair for a year.

I watch porn and so does my partner, its not a replacement of them, more a stimulus to see what excites and what we would like to try.

Anything goes with sex as far as I'm concerned, as long as you are both on the same page about where the boundaries are (and it's legal)

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Busybee2912 · 04/07/2020 14:43

@Oopsiedaisyy maybe it isn’t to you and that’s fine if you’re into it too. But everyone’s entitled to their own opinions on it and if they don’t want it as part of their relationships, that’s up to them too.

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SandyY2K · 04/07/2020 15:01

@KeepHimJolene

@GilbertMarkham and @SandyY2K DP has never been on the site he just told me where men see the ad.

Your DP is not representative of all men Just as you are not representative of all women.

Such a generalisation shows ignorance and a lack of intelligence.

But men are all visiting them. 100% true.

Unless you have spoken to every man on earth...you cannot get away with saying this and expect to be taken seriously.

This generalised thinking is what causes problems in the world.

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SandyY2K · 04/07/2020 15:10

@Busybee2912

@KeepHimJolene just because yours does, doesn’t mean all men do. THAT’S judgemental.

Absolutely. Totally agree with you.

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WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo · 04/07/2020 15:17

I could use porn every day but I dont because I consider it to be spiritually and ethically bankrupt. It is an industry built on abuse and the trafficking of human beings and it promotes child rape.

So I would not go touch a man who uses porn because I would consider him to be beneath me over it. And I want an equal in a partner.

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QuentinWinters · 04/07/2020 16:32

CAMMING IS NOT PORN

Honestly. I don't understand why so many posters keep making this about porn.

Camming is exchanging money for cyber sex. Or like an online version of a strip club, if they dont have private sessions.

If you wouldn't accept your partner going to strip clubs or using prostitutes, why would you accept camming?

If you would, well your choice and all that. But don't make out its normal.

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Oopsiedaisyy · 04/07/2020 16:56

@busybee2912 sorry that was my point, you both have to decide what is okay or not okay in your relationship, and that takes conversation

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SoulofanAggron · 04/07/2020 18:38

@KeepHimJolene Men can also google 'cam' or whatever and come across the site. I didn't come across it through an ad anywhere, a sleazy ex mentioned it to me directly and told me to look. So they probably can also hear of it from other people.

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Cheesestring84 · 04/07/2020 18:47

@Boopthesnoot1

At first I used to recover deleted internet history, check 'watched videos' on YouTube because I didn't want to be the fool. I didn't need to though, he really was so upset that he had done that to me (again and again) and he stopped looking at porn. I'm a very strong female, not one to stay in a relationship and take shit.
For a very long time I couldn't dress up nice for him cause I felt insecure. I know it's hard now but that man you have wants to build a life with you and deep down you know that he is a twat or if he made a stupid mistake. (A stupid mistake that f*cking kills you inside and it's completely not fair you're the one reaping the pain for his actions but it's a mistake)

We sat down and talked 100 times about how hurt I was and he was totally understanding everytime on why I felt that way, that helped a lot. Some days I couldn't touch him, others I would be ok. He stayed by my side regardless how bad I treated him.

I think you know deep down who he is, trust your gut, if it was a mistake, it was a mistake but you will need time to forgive him but you will and things can move past this.

Again, I could have written this. Came back to bite me on the arse believing that was the end of things though. I think if someone is addicted it takes a hell of a lot more than just not wanting to upset your partner to change. Just be careful.
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PawPatrolMakesMeDrink · 04/07/2020 18:57

My ex did similar to me when I was about 5m pregnant OP. Found out he was using cam sites and was paying so that he could have 1-2-1 ‘chats’ with these women.
Me, being pregnant, hormonal and scared gave him a final warning and said that if it happened again it would be over.
Was DS was around 5mo I received a Facebook message off a woman, with a video of my ex wanking himself off. She was a cam woman, he had paid her for 1-2-1 contact, swapped numbers and she was attempting to blackmail him for money. He didn’t give her the money she wanted so by searching his number on Facebook she found his profile and then mine.
I kicked him the fuck out of my house.
He could never explain why he used the chat sites. That he was just sorry. Sorry wasn’t good enough for me.

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Boopthesnoot1 · 04/07/2020 23:10

If you google it there are a few different ways to recover deleted web data, there probably is even YouTube 'how to' videos these days. If he is deleting his history then it's obviously to hide something else.
Another trick is to use the web bar and type in random letters, it will show you websites visited and YouTube has a whole history of 'watched videos' data. Some phones also keep not just browser history but website information that needs to be deleted separately.

Given it's his first time and you guys didn't have clear expectations set around what was acceptable or not, it doesn't sound to me he is a bad guy. You can also bluff and tell him you found a way to get deleted web data and if there is anything else he wants to add do it now, this worked for me and my DP broke down and disclosed his addiction, tho he knew I can recover web data cause it's my job.

Have you spoken to him? How are you feeling today about it?

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QuentinWinters · 04/07/2020 23:57

So sorry paw Flowers

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QuentinWinters · 04/07/2020 23:58

you guys didn't have clear expectations set around what was acceptable or not
Do you need to set a clear expectation that its not ok to have sex talk with other women? I'd have thought that goes without saying

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trixiebelden77 · 05/07/2020 02:40

Far out there are women whose expectations of men are on the floor. The only men you know are either paying to make a young (potentially vulnerable) stranger perform sexual acts whilst they wank, or are liars?

What a shame for you.

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Cramitmaam · 05/07/2020 02:55

But men are all visiting them. 100% true.

How depressing. Tell me, are you also one of those people who thinks that all men have affairs?

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wildone84 · 05/07/2020 03:49

If you want to forgive him, I wouldn't marry this guy or get a house with him and I'd tell him why. I'd wait for a few years, and keep tabs on him and his online "activities".

Personally porn users are not for me. I want a guy who wants me every day, not women online.

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bigvig · 05/07/2020 09:37

Just to speak up for the non porn watching men out there. My DP is far from perfect but he doesn't watch porn. He says he can't get any satisfaction from watching women doing stuff because they have been paid to/ sometimes forced to. It's like drugs - those who do it tell themselves that everyone does. OP it sounds like you can forgive your partner - but it will take time and confidence that he won't do this again. I would recommend asking him to leave for a couple of weeks to give you space to think. Don't buy the house until you are 100% sure you can forgive - and trust him.

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