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Does anyone else thing most posters here disproportionately tell women to leave their partners as a default answer?

208 replies

Kemputer · 05/05/2020 13:40

Does anyone else thing most posters here disproportionately tell women who post a thread here to leave their partners as a default answer?

Yes for some that is the obvious response e.g if a woman was being hit by her partner or cheated on etc. But for others, I’m surprised no one takes the couples therapy type approach suggestions of seeing two sides (I know there is bias as it’s only written from 1 side) and working through issues As it’s almost resigning some men as unchangeable and defective for a relationship I guess?

Please no hate - just an observation

OP posts:
Windmillwhirl · 17/05/2020 16:47

*In the case of examples that someone gave near the start of the thread, telling someone to "shut up" or swearing, doesn't automatically make someone an abuser; we've all, at some point, done this, and we've all, at some point, irrespective of gender, probably deserved it.

I do also see a double standard, as when it's the other way round, and it's a man talking about a wife who's said unpleasant things, there just aren't the same sort of comments, saying how he should leave her.*

Very valid points.

Trufflegirl · 17/05/2020 21:01

Thank you. Smile

ThirtyAndASmidgen · 17/05/2020 21:18

I’m late to this thread but agree with the general points already made. Of the relationships of my close friends that I know enough about to comment, I’d say fully 30-40% of the women are being abused physically, emotionally and/or financially by their partners. These have all admitted privately that they’re not happy but they won’t leave because they don’t think they’ll meet anyone else in time to have children - which, given my experience of OLD, I fully sympathise with.

EdwinaMay · 17/05/2020 21:28

I think the LTB advice is very important because if, eg,you are married, with a low paid part time job and several children and family who think your marriage is ok, actually leaving has probably not entered your head. And sowing the seed can be a good thing rather than the belief that you are trapped by responsibilities and commitments.
Also I feel getting the ducks in a row, so you get to a position where you realise it is actually possible to leave and have a viable life, puts you in a much stronger position when it comes to conversations with the DP about the future.

Daphnise · 17/05/2020 21:46

Leaving does seem to be often suggested- without any heed for practicalities such as where to go, and finances.

Vretz · 22/05/2020 09:29

It's the shaming for not following the LTB model that's horrendous. It's bullying, just look at the treatment of @Trufflegirl

category12 · 22/05/2020 13:08

Hmm trufflegirl was the one trying to keep the disagreement going, from what I could see. But don't let that stop your agenda-pushing.

Isitsixoclockalready · 22/05/2020 14:00

It's kind of hard to imagine someone, in a situation where the relationship was healthy to actually take advice to LTB if it was just over a petty argument. If someone was willing to consider leaving me in the context of an otherwise healthy, mutually respectful relationship then I would be having my doubts about that person anyway. I also don't know whether it's necessarily fair to say that LTB is a default response on here. I've seen countless responses where people have suggested to the OP that they should talk it through but unfortunately whilst an OP's original post often looks innocuous, we've all seen them open up after a few posts and it's not always as simple as it seems.

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