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Bf wants to leave me after I made him get a job

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 18:28

1st time poster here, hi :)

Has my bf of 12 years been mugging me off or have I been a twat?

We have 2 children together, when I first met him he was a waster, spending all his wage on weed, I'd just got out of a 14yr marriage and he was a good escape from the monotony of a boring husband. My bf moved to be with me and got some crappy part tme jobs that he hated. 3 years on, I got pregnant with our DS, we agreed that because I had a regular, higher paying job, he would stay home to care for our DS. 2 years later our DD was born, everything was fine.. I did catch him twice chatting to women online, sharing pictures of himself to them.. we kind of got through it but it damaged trust I had in him and the relationship didn't ever feel the same again for me. I put it down to him feeling lonely and neglected at home, my job involved many hours and I was often stressed and tired when I got home.

I encouraged him to take a degree through open university which he spent 5 years doing, the plan was to have a great qualification then once the kids were in full time school he could get a job that he would enjoy and start contributing financially to our family.

When our DD finally went full time at school, it became apparent my bf had no intention of finding work at all. He half arsed his way through a couple of job interviews here and there, then got offered a job but needed a dbs check. He failed it for things he did before we met. All those years of studying culminated in sweet f. all and I was gutted.

Meanwhile, Bill's were piling up, I had been struggling for 2 years to keep on top of everything and pleaded with him to get s job to help, I even went off sick for stress for 2 months.. I was so unhappy having to do everything myself, he knew this... still nothing, no work that contributed anything meaningful.

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done. My last relationship was the same, I guess that's just the way I am. I love my children, I do think life would be so much easier without them.. I feel bad to think that way.

So, a month ago after another month of no contributions to the family finances, I told my bf I wanted him to leave. I wanted to scare him, to make him realise I was sick of his free loading and that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I still don't know for sure if I meant it. I just know I had enough of being the worrier over mounting Bill's while he sat at home doing nothing for hours while both kids were at school.

He got a job, full time. I was over the moon, finally, we could treat our kids, pay our Bill's, buy new furniture... I saw such a bright future for us all, for the first time in many years, I was really happy. A fortnight after he started work, I said let's sit down and go through what Bill's we can split up, I'd make a list.. he took absolutely no interest, I left it a few days thinking he would ask to see it.. nothing.

2 days ago, I made a flippant comment about his hours making childcare difficult and that he didn't need to do so many hours as we will have to pay childcare which would cancel out the extra hours he was doing.. I said unless you have a plan for all this extra money you're making..he went quiet. Later he admitted he was saving to move out.

He says that because I was so happy he got a job and that my mood changed so dramatically since then, that I only want him for his money.

8 years I have paid for everything. Found us homes to live in, taken us on holidays (very few on our budget but still I was the only one who planned these), bought cars for our family to use, always made sure our cupboards had food in them (I always do the weekly shop), bought our children clothes, birthday and christmas presents, furnished our home etc etc.. hes been a stay at home dad and that was great, he's been a great dad to our children, we always liked the role reversal of the sahm, I overlooked the sloppiness of keeping our home clean and tidy- he did the bare minimum at home but 2 kids are hard work I know this.

So back to my original question. Have I been a total mug all these years? Can you help me see this from his point of view? I'm feeling so stupid right now. He says I'm being selfish feeling like this.

He's got to live here until he can afford to move out, so now it feels even worse that I have to pay for everything and it's even more stressful because his hours are making childcare a complete nightmare, neither of us have friends or family nearby to help us out. I'm in such a mess :(

OP posts:
Catmaiden · 15/11/2019 22:08

Tvstar, you have a very strange view of all this. Are you the Ops ex?

Gruzinkerbell1 · 16/11/2019 18:01

You and your family are awesome.

Don’t feel sorry for your ex. His cock lodging days are over. Bet his OW is shitting herself!

Jubilation · 16/11/2019 18:29

You haven't made a shit life. You've worked hard and been strong. He's a bit of an arsehole. I know people, both sexes, manage being SAH differently so you're not necessarily going to return to a palace etc. He's been lazy. He's now got a job. Think of all the positives you've achieved. Life is hard. Be kind to yourself. Let him go but get maintenance and support and don't take any crap because it's so easy for men to take advantage of a strong, capable woman!

champagneandfromage50 · 17/11/2019 19:02

what a horrible situation. So when he wasn't working your money was his, now he is finally earning his money is his. What a dreadful man. He reminds me of my eldest DS, doesnt think he should contribute and thinks its unreasonable we are asking for a smal contribution. At least he is my DS not my DH!

MitziK · 17/11/2019 21:49

Of course, if @Tvstar's attitude is taken, then it just leaves the simple, non coercive act of speaking the truth to the woman's husband as the only feasible course of action.

And telling the man 'Yes, he's here as he's refusing to leave. Of course I'll open the door to you. You're just a father of a child/children at my DC's school. Of course you're welcome to pop by for a cuppa and Chat'.

Then the ex can decide for himself whether he wants to stay or not, rather than be told he has to go...

BendyLikeBeckham · 18/11/2019 11:39

Yay for your BIL, OP!!

You will feel like a weight has lifted when he leaves.

Be prepared for the credit checks to fail however, so get your plan B in place. He hasn't got 3 months of payslips to show, and I expect his credit score will be shit because he hasn't been working for years and paying off credit cards or car loans etc? Can he go and live with parents? Or lodge locally?

Don't waiver on getting him out pronto if this flat falls through.

Taetoes · 08/12/2019 11:56

Hi 😊 I've been sat reading other threads about similar situations to mine the last few days, still trying to make sense of it all and get a hold on my wildly fluctuating emotions.

As an update, he's got his flat last Saturday, it was completely empty of any furniture so I spent the day helping him take things from my house like blow up mattresses, camping chairs, bed linen, crockery etc.. I even took them to the shops and paid for duvets and pillows for the kids so they'd have somewhere to sleep overnight. They were so excited to spend time with him. My family are fuming I helped him but I did it for the kids, I want them to have a nice time with him. Still, it really was THE most difficult day swallowing my feelings to drive him and the kids around, seeing him excited about his new home. I cried so much that night once it was done. Mostly tears of sadness that my DC are having to go through this, not that he's not with me anymore.

My DD has really struggled this last week, I've fondly been calling her my little spider monkey, she's so clingy, really doesn't want to go to school and was often making up some sort of ailment just as I tucking her up into bed, ear ache and legs hurting last week. I've had to take her to school in tears all last week, she's finding it so hard bless her. She's a complete Daddys girl and it's hit her hard, going from him being there 24/7 to most nights no more than a 10min facetime before bed..at worst, nothing at all. My DS is coping well, he was most worried about seeing us argue so I told him he won't see that from us again, ever.. Saturday proved that for him and he's seemed much more settled for that. I asked him today if he thought I was a happy mum or a sad mum right now and he said Happy with no hesitation 😊 It's true, I do feel more relaxed and free to love and care for them now he's not here. As a sahd he would always get annoyed if I did anything housework or child care wise because "that was his job". Laughable really, because he's barely seeing them at all now, which makes me think he really was here just for himself and used the kids as an excuse to be "kept".

His parents came to visit for a couple of days last week. He was working the whole time so to see the kids I said they could come here, it's important the kids continue the relationship they have with grandparents but again.. I found it very, very hard emotionally.. mostly because over 2 days there was no acknowledgment of what hes done, no apology, no honesty about how they feel.. we discussed tv shows and weather! It was insane. I know his mum will stick by him but after 11years, I'd have thought a little sympathy would come my way. Feels like I'm having to constantly swallow my feelings and be the bigger person with no thanks or recognition at how fucking hard this is.

Meanwhile, I have not seen him shed a single tear. Never looks sad, always in a good mood, positively bouncing with joy. Was I really that awful to be with all these years? He's behaving like a man set free, completely disowned himself of any responsibilities for the kids. He's not taken any interest in their schooling, not paid a single pound towards their upkeep in 2 months, barely sees them.. I've had to contact him every time to ask when he can see the kids. He's rolled over to everything I've asked, the tenancy, the house deposit, the child benefit, whatever I've asked for hes just done it. I really do feel the single parent and it's terrifying.

Some days I just want to curl up in a hole and hide away, I ignore messages from friends and family those days, I just feel so useless, stupid, weak, unconfident, stressed, angry, alone..
Other days, I feel motivated, strong, independent.. the dark days are lessening but when they come, they come hard and I have to force myself out the house.

I saw the OW the other day outside the school for the first time. She saw me and started running past me with her head down. At least she has some shame I guess. Her husband still doesn't know. Why should she still have her life intact when mine is in tatters. I know they are still meeting in secret, I feel awful for her husband knowing how this feels now. I really want to tell him but I don't know if that will make me feel any better!

I'm looking forward to Christmas, I will be spending it with my family, hes decided to work the whole of christmas so I've decided to take me and the kids to stay over at my sisters.

I think I should write here more often, it does help to release my thoughts and help make sense of the choices I'm making.

Speak soon 😊

OP posts:
HazelBite · 08/12/2019 13:26

Op you are doing so well, it seems so sad that he seems not be really that bothered about the DC,s like thaey are part of his "old life" and he's moved on to a new and exciting life.
I hope you all have a lovely Christmas with your family x

MzPumpkinPie · 08/12/2019 14:03

How awful for you but I'm glad you are free of that toxic man.
You need to get in touch with the child maintenance service to get some CM so he takes a little responsibility for the children.
I feel so sad hearing about your daughter.
Have a lovely free Christmas and a clean break for the new year for you.

PerkyPomPoms · 13/12/2019 23:06

I’d be tempted to congratulate him on forgiving his wife’s affair with your ex....

Weenurse · 14/12/2019 00:34

💐☕️

Thehagonthehillwithtinsel · 14/12/2019 00:45

How did he get a job in a care home if his DBs didn't check out before,?

Taetoes · 21/12/2019 19:36

Thanks for your replies Smile
@Thehagonthehillwithtinsel I have no idea but there he is! He told the kids that an old lady at the home hit him, spat on him, scratched him, bit him and called him a "dirty, dirty bugger" today, how I laughed inside, must send her a christmas card Grin

Today I learned that when it was my money paying for everything for years, it didn't bother him. Now that I've put a claim in with child maintenance he suddenly cares quite a lot about money to pay his bills. Had 2 phone conversations with him that were insightful, switching from fury, to choking back tears, to blame shifting to remorseful.

I am taking money away from him when I don't need it, I'm preventing him from being able to live in his flat, I am taking money away from him that he could spend on his children for treats and finally, he is going to tell our DC exactly why he can't be in their lives when he has to move back to his home town because he can't afford to live here Hmm

OP posts:
Taetoes · 21/12/2019 19:42

Would any of you tell the OW's husband about the affair? So many people keep saying tell him as it's cruel for him but I feel like their marriage is nothing to do with me, I got my own shit to deal with.. and what would I get from doing it healing wise? Finding it so much easier having virtually no contact with him, I don't want to be drawn into their drama when I have enough of my own to deal with Confused

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BaolFan · 22/12/2019 09:25

Yes I absolutely would. On the basis that if I found out that my partner had been cheating and someone else knew about it, I'd be fucked off about being lied to and kept in the dark.

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