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Bf wants to leave me after I made him get a job

215 replies

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 18:28

1st time poster here, hi :)

Has my bf of 12 years been mugging me off or have I been a twat?

We have 2 children together, when I first met him he was a waster, spending all his wage on weed, I'd just got out of a 14yr marriage and he was a good escape from the monotony of a boring husband. My bf moved to be with me and got some crappy part tme jobs that he hated. 3 years on, I got pregnant with our DS, we agreed that because I had a regular, higher paying job, he would stay home to care for our DS. 2 years later our DD was born, everything was fine.. I did catch him twice chatting to women online, sharing pictures of himself to them.. we kind of got through it but it damaged trust I had in him and the relationship didn't ever feel the same again for me. I put it down to him feeling lonely and neglected at home, my job involved many hours and I was often stressed and tired when I got home.

I encouraged him to take a degree through open university which he spent 5 years doing, the plan was to have a great qualification then once the kids were in full time school he could get a job that he would enjoy and start contributing financially to our family.

When our DD finally went full time at school, it became apparent my bf had no intention of finding work at all. He half arsed his way through a couple of job interviews here and there, then got offered a job but needed a dbs check. He failed it for things he did before we met. All those years of studying culminated in sweet f. all and I was gutted.

Meanwhile, Bill's were piling up, I had been struggling for 2 years to keep on top of everything and pleaded with him to get s job to help, I even went off sick for stress for 2 months.. I was so unhappy having to do everything myself, he knew this... still nothing, no work that contributed anything meaningful.

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done. My last relationship was the same, I guess that's just the way I am. I love my children, I do think life would be so much easier without them.. I feel bad to think that way.

So, a month ago after another month of no contributions to the family finances, I told my bf I wanted him to leave. I wanted to scare him, to make him realise I was sick of his free loading and that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I still don't know for sure if I meant it. I just know I had enough of being the worrier over mounting Bill's while he sat at home doing nothing for hours while both kids were at school.

He got a job, full time. I was over the moon, finally, we could treat our kids, pay our Bill's, buy new furniture... I saw such a bright future for us all, for the first time in many years, I was really happy. A fortnight after he started work, I said let's sit down and go through what Bill's we can split up, I'd make a list.. he took absolutely no interest, I left it a few days thinking he would ask to see it.. nothing.

2 days ago, I made a flippant comment about his hours making childcare difficult and that he didn't need to do so many hours as we will have to pay childcare which would cancel out the extra hours he was doing.. I said unless you have a plan for all this extra money you're making..he went quiet. Later he admitted he was saving to move out.

He says that because I was so happy he got a job and that my mood changed so dramatically since then, that I only want him for his money.

8 years I have paid for everything. Found us homes to live in, taken us on holidays (very few on our budget but still I was the only one who planned these), bought cars for our family to use, always made sure our cupboards had food in them (I always do the weekly shop), bought our children clothes, birthday and christmas presents, furnished our home etc etc.. hes been a stay at home dad and that was great, he's been a great dad to our children, we always liked the role reversal of the sahm, I overlooked the sloppiness of keeping our home clean and tidy- he did the bare minimum at home but 2 kids are hard work I know this.

So back to my original question. Have I been a total mug all these years? Can you help me see this from his point of view? I'm feeling so stupid right now. He says I'm being selfish feeling like this.

He's got to live here until he can afford to move out, so now it feels even worse that I have to pay for everything and it's even more stressful because his hours are making childcare a complete nightmare, neither of us have friends or family nearby to help us out. I'm in such a mess :(

OP posts:
Taetoes · 15/11/2019 04:28

@Mummyoflittledragon yes, I'm going to be very poor indeed for christmas, childcare will be doable once I change my shifts to mornings only.
He says he's not leaving without his kids and that I should move out. My Brother in Laws will be straight down here to throw him out soon as I give the word though. I'll just take the kids out somewhere while they do it.

OP posts:
Taetoes · 15/11/2019 04:33

I've got both sets of keys to the house so he can't lock me out aswell. 15 mins after I found out he asked me what we should say to the kids 😭 He's made me feel like a complete twat, writing this stuff down makes me see I'm actually not the twat. He's a coward.

OP posts:
Redken24 · 15/11/2019 04:53

He's a royal fucker.
Cheating on you and tries to justify it that it's your fault? Turd.
Wants to leave but happy to wait it out at the family home as it suits at the minute.
Kick him out!

MzPumpkinPie · 15/11/2019 04:53

I can't help feel that this is very coercive and manipulative behaviour on his part.
Did you say it was a joint council tenancy ?
I would contact them , explain the situation.
Get in touch with an organisation that can help with mental abuse and make copies of all evidence and important documents.
Now you have child care sorted, are going part time and he is working FT , he is no longer the full time care giver to the DC.
I'm sorry he is such a nasty, head fucking gobshite.
I'd 100% ask the BILs to remove him.
It will be a while before he can afford a lawyer if he can't afford accommodation and he needs to stop using the utilities and food you pay for.
If you feel threatened mentally and controlled that is now an offence in law.
Call 101 and get the police to help you.
You need a good Women’s rights and welfare rights group too.
You know what you're dealing with.
I hope you keep all of these text messages because they paint a picture of a very manipulative and nasty man.
Good luck

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/11/2019 05:32

I would maybe hold off chucking him out until you go part time if you can. This will give you time to find out your rights, do some research. MzPumpkin offered some wise words.

Tvstar · 15/11/2019 05:58

You say you paid for everything for 8 years, but for most of those he was a sago with preschoolers, have you forgotten that? By your own admission your behaviour towards him was atrocious, borderline abusive. Now he has got a ft job you are being kind to him. Can you not see the problem here, your treatment of him as a sahd was that his contribution to the family was valueless

Starlight456 · 15/11/2019 06:42

I would send the screenshots to the dh. Get him out the house first though.

You will be far happier once he has gone.

Whilst you will need to pay childcare I think you will be suprised how much some bills reduce . I say this as a Lp

Gruzinkerbell1 · 15/11/2019 07:05

Get this cheating, lying, gaslighting, lazy, cock lodging waste of space out of your life. Today.

Call your BILs right now.

wildflowersandweeds · 15/11/2019 07:09

I'd give him 2 weeks to move out or I'd not only being telling the husband but showing the screenshots to all the school gate mums... use your leverage wisely!

prawnsword · 15/11/2019 07:11

If he is cheating you can just chuck his stuff on the lawn if you like & tell him the locks are changed. In my experience they don’t try to move back in after that.

Innishh · 15/11/2019 08:56

What a shock for you. But good that your head and heart were already detaching.

Keep your dignity and keep your powder dry - as others have said you have just one opportunity to deploy anything to max effect.

See a solicitor, ensure that residency is crystal clear and consider carefully all options before you make your move.

Keep in mind that the emotional stability of your children through this traumatic time is the only priority.

Wishing you calmness to achieve clarity to get you through these hellish days.

BendyLikeBeckham · 15/11/2019 11:13

OP I'm so sorry to hear that. What a fucking cheating liar he is, and then to blame you for his behaviour? Unbelievable shitty twat he is.

Try and see a solicitor TODAY. You need him gone.

stayathomegardener · 15/11/2019 11:27

It might sound dramatic but I would walk out of my job to demonstrate I was the primary carer. Sod the financial consequences, there is a real risk he could do the same and you will be funding him looking after your children for years.

Or would work consider you taking a sabbatical?

prawnsword · 15/11/2019 11:37

stop telling the Op to quit her job! Men who have affairs generally don’t want primary custody of their children. They want to make a “love nest”. At most he will likely go for 50/50 care, but a newly single cheater is not looking to saddle himself with children full time.

Tvstar · 15/11/2019 14:38

But the ow has children so I don't think a child free love nest is on the cards. He will want you to be paying him maintenance not the other way round.

Taetoes · 15/11/2019 16:08

Hi, thank you for the replies again. I just muddled through today, again I've not slept all night so my sisters and brothers in laws helped me keep on track.
After a big standoff over the house keys this morning (I have both sets) and few more "who should be blamed for his wandering cock" arguments, he set off flat hunting a few miles down the road.

While he was out I rang the council and explained the situation, they said they couldn't take him off the tenancy without his permission, but, if seperately I say I want him to leave and he says he wanted to stay, the housing authority said they would make us reapply for the tenancy under financial eligibility. 16k a year was the minimum so he would lose the application and I would take over as sole tenant.

He got an appointment to see a flat within 2 hours, empty and ready to go once credit checks are completed. He says it's fine for him and the kids so has put in an application for it but it might take a few days.

Meanwhile my brother In law called him on the way home and said to sign over the tenancy today so me and the kids don't have to worry about not having a roof over our heads... or he was driving over to our house, packing all his stuff up and dumping it in the front garden of his new gf. He found her address online. My sisters have been sending friend requests to her and her husband on facebook all day so he told him that they both have screenshots of all the messages between my ex and her, and he was happy to do all of it if the tenancy wasn't handed over immediately.

He's now written to the council to request immediate removal.

The flat is in the next town and he doesn't drive so school runs will be a bit more tricky unless he moves the school the children attend, which he would need my permission for.. so a big custody battle is pointless as my situation here is less disruptive for the children. Any judge would agree with that.

I have childcare sorted when needed, but he it will be unrestricted and easy access to the children whenever he wants. The children are priority, whatever they need to get through this unsettling time.

I've allowed him to stay here until the flat application goes through, my brother in law told him to get a bed sit while he was waiting and grow a pair while he was there, but I felt really sorry for him when he got back from the flat, he looked broken and I have no fight left in me being so exhausted, my brain is foggy. Now the tenancy will be mine, I felt comfortable doing that for a couple of days, also we need time to speak to the children about the future.

Now I just need to get my head around being a single mum of 3, mourn my 2nd out of 2 long term relationships down the pan and try build up my self esteem again, I couldn't feel more ugly, used, embarrassed, betrayed and hurt if I tried, I'm sure my brain will find ways to do that though in the coming weeks and months.

My babies are my only love from now on, I'm sure there is going to be more agro down the line, but for now, it feels ok I guess. I don't think it's all sunk in yet though.

OP posts:
MarianaMoatedGrange · 15/11/2019 16:22

Firstly - YOUR FAMILY ROCK!!!!!! Grin

Secondly - but I felt really sorry for him when he got back from the flat, he looked broken
He didn't give a flying fuck about breaking you, though, did he? You are a normal, caring person, he is a selfish twat. Don't let your caring nature be taken advantage of any more by him. Make it clear he has to be out by such and such a date, OR ELSE.

Thirdly - your self esteem will soar without that user in your life. You rock too! Grin

Windygate · 15/11/2019 16:48

Your BIL is without a doubt a force to be reckoned with. Be kind to yourself, you've had a terrible shock.

Tvstar · 15/11/2019 16:59

You have used your bil to coerce him into taking his name off the tenancy?
This might be viewed as domestic abuse and now he will qualify legal aid.

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/11/2019 17:01

That’s great news. I’m really glad to see you have people on your side. The pain of what you are going through will pass. He has done you such a massive favour by being a total scum bag. You’ve been far too caring for a long time.

Throwawayteacher · 15/11/2019 17:11

You have been supporting your family for years.

He cheated, saved money secretly behind your back so he could leave you, didn't care about childcare for the children and only about getting money to leave.

DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR HIM. FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND YOURSELF AND DO NOT LET HIM BACK.

DO NOT LET YOUR BIL DO OR SAY ANYTHING EX HUSBAND CAN USE AS PROOF.

GET HIM OUT AND NEVER LOOK BACK Flowers

MzPumpkinPie · 15/11/2019 17:22

Really happy to hear you have the tenancy sorted and I'm delighted that you have family support.
To be honest I think you have grounds for legal aid on the grounds of coercive behaviour, which is classed as domestic abuse and punishable.
Look into this ASAP and blindside the creep.
Even if you don't get the legal aid , it will show you've been head fucked and tormented by him and that he would use the kids against you.
In my opinion he sounds like he will try to go for full custody, leave his job and get benefits instead of working because he's a lazy fuckwit.
Preempt him .
Good luck

ginghamstarfish · 15/11/2019 18:16

OP you have certainly been a mug, but time to move onwards and upwards. You'll definitely be better off without this tosser. Good luck!

Tvstar · 15/11/2019 18:27

The op experiencing coercive control? Really? "Because I think any solicitor would frame not allowing a co-tenant access to the keys, and getting your Bil to coerce him to reliquish the tenancy us domestic abuse.

carly2803 · 15/11/2019 19:14

OP your family is amazing, and so are you for not doing the "pick me" dance most women seem to do on here!

Get his arse out the house. I would not even let him stay another minute . what an absolute twat heis. I gasped out loud when i read the "he had an affair"

good luck OP for the future, but do not pity him. He didnt pity you while you were out working bloody hard and he was shagging his piece.