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Bf wants to leave me after I made him get a job

215 replies

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 18:28

1st time poster here, hi :)

Has my bf of 12 years been mugging me off or have I been a twat?

We have 2 children together, when I first met him he was a waster, spending all his wage on weed, I'd just got out of a 14yr marriage and he was a good escape from the monotony of a boring husband. My bf moved to be with me and got some crappy part tme jobs that he hated. 3 years on, I got pregnant with our DS, we agreed that because I had a regular, higher paying job, he would stay home to care for our DS. 2 years later our DD was born, everything was fine.. I did catch him twice chatting to women online, sharing pictures of himself to them.. we kind of got through it but it damaged trust I had in him and the relationship didn't ever feel the same again for me. I put it down to him feeling lonely and neglected at home, my job involved many hours and I was often stressed and tired when I got home.

I encouraged him to take a degree through open university which he spent 5 years doing, the plan was to have a great qualification then once the kids were in full time school he could get a job that he would enjoy and start contributing financially to our family.

When our DD finally went full time at school, it became apparent my bf had no intention of finding work at all. He half arsed his way through a couple of job interviews here and there, then got offered a job but needed a dbs check. He failed it for things he did before we met. All those years of studying culminated in sweet f. all and I was gutted.

Meanwhile, Bill's were piling up, I had been struggling for 2 years to keep on top of everything and pleaded with him to get s job to help, I even went off sick for stress for 2 months.. I was so unhappy having to do everything myself, he knew this... still nothing, no work that contributed anything meaningful.

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done. My last relationship was the same, I guess that's just the way I am. I love my children, I do think life would be so much easier without them.. I feel bad to think that way.

So, a month ago after another month of no contributions to the family finances, I told my bf I wanted him to leave. I wanted to scare him, to make him realise I was sick of his free loading and that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I still don't know for sure if I meant it. I just know I had enough of being the worrier over mounting Bill's while he sat at home doing nothing for hours while both kids were at school.

He got a job, full time. I was over the moon, finally, we could treat our kids, pay our Bill's, buy new furniture... I saw such a bright future for us all, for the first time in many years, I was really happy. A fortnight after he started work, I said let's sit down and go through what Bill's we can split up, I'd make a list.. he took absolutely no interest, I left it a few days thinking he would ask to see it.. nothing.

2 days ago, I made a flippant comment about his hours making childcare difficult and that he didn't need to do so many hours as we will have to pay childcare which would cancel out the extra hours he was doing.. I said unless you have a plan for all this extra money you're making..he went quiet. Later he admitted he was saving to move out.

He says that because I was so happy he got a job and that my mood changed so dramatically since then, that I only want him for his money.

8 years I have paid for everything. Found us homes to live in, taken us on holidays (very few on our budget but still I was the only one who planned these), bought cars for our family to use, always made sure our cupboards had food in them (I always do the weekly shop), bought our children clothes, birthday and christmas presents, furnished our home etc etc.. hes been a stay at home dad and that was great, he's been a great dad to our children, we always liked the role reversal of the sahm, I overlooked the sloppiness of keeping our home clean and tidy- he did the bare minimum at home but 2 kids are hard work I know this.

So back to my original question. Have I been a total mug all these years? Can you help me see this from his point of view? I'm feeling so stupid right now. He says I'm being selfish feeling like this.

He's got to live here until he can afford to move out, so now it feels even worse that I have to pay for everything and it's even more stressful because his hours are making childcare a complete nightmare, neither of us have friends or family nearby to help us out. I'm in such a mess :(

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BendyLikeBeckham · 11/11/2019 08:23

OP, many childminders start at 7am. Start looking for one now that does drop off at your DDs school.

And yes, look at changing your working hours. You need to start thinking like a single parent. It doesn't sound like you have been working as a team for a while now anyway.

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 11/11/2019 08:23

this is the deal they get to live in your home & be like a live in nanny

I'm not saying an Au pair is a bad idea (def consider it) but you definitely still need to pay them. It's not just "free magical childcare in exchange for food and a bed".

Branleuse · 11/11/2019 08:23

You clearly dont like him, yet you are angry because hes had the audacity to be unhappy with you

itwasalovelydreamwhileitlasted · 11/11/2019 08:29

I don't need him

That might be so but you're children do.....why have children with a man you clearly have no respect or genuine feelings for or was he just a convenient sperm donor?

And you can't blame him simply for talking to other women (assuming nothing untoward happened) if by your own admission you are moody sulky and show no affection to him

I actually feel quite sorry for him

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 08:52

@itwasalovelydreamwhileitlasted I'll pass him your details, you can have a bitch over a pint and discuss how all women are such money grabbing, ungrateful, demanding arseholes. Sheesh.

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Taetoes · 11/11/2019 08:53

No spare room for an automatic pair, there are 5 of us living in a shoebox already, thank you for the suggestion though 🙂

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Taetoes · 11/11/2019 08:57

"Automatic pair" 😂 two would make childcare a breeze 🤔

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Middersweekly · 11/11/2019 08:58

A childminder that can do school drop offs would be the best option if you both have to start work by 8am. Then an after school club (because they are cheaper). I appreciate childcare is not cheap but him working should balance the books. I remember very well the nightmare of it all because I worked and studied when the kids were small and I was doing shift work along with nightshifts which was a nightmare. The logistics of the childcare were always left to me because my DH was the main earner and would swan off to work leaving me doing all the running and organizing (we have 4 DC’s). It’s not easy so I appreciate the hassle and the hardship that goes in to it.
If you decide to go your separate ways, he will have to sort his side of the childcare arrangements and you’ll only have to worry about yours.

Branleuse · 11/11/2019 09:00

Well OP, great job for finding someone that will be happy to do all the childcare you need whilst simultaneuosly working full time.
I get it must be challenging in some ways to maintain respect for a man who does the stay at home stuff and still doesnt act grateful or look elsewhere when you are passive aggressive and sulky with them, but theres definitely bound to be loads of men out there who will be fine with this

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 09:10

Thank you @Midders, great advice again.

@Branleuse, I'm planning on being single for a very long time after this. This is the 2nd long term relationship I've had since I was 18, with barely a gap inbetween.. I'm 43, time for me to concentrate solely on the children I gave birth to and not the man childs I stupidly set up home with. Males of the world are safe from my harm!

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Taetoes · 11/11/2019 09:12

I've been awake 28hours straight now, I think I'm getting easily triggered 😂

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Contraceptionismyfriend · 11/11/2019 09:16

Males of the world are safe from my harm!

You could always take a leaf out of a praying mantises book.

Have the sex and then rip their heads off.
No need to deal with their bullshit after.

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 09:28

@Contraceptionismyfriend 😂 not even that idea is tempting me, sounds like a nightmare episode of I'm a celebrity.

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Pinkfluffythoughts · 11/11/2019 10:30

It sounds like a miserable way to spend a few years. I feel sorry for you.

BumbleBeee69 · 11/11/2019 11:29

have you asked him to move out today?

user1481840227 · 11/11/2019 14:53

Have you asked at the breakfast club is there an option for an earlier start?
They could have already been asked by other parents but the numbers that required it were too low, so they haven't changed the hours yet.
My local afterschool service changed their hours in response to request from parents.

Also do you know any local parents who have kids going to the same school as yours? Normally that's how other working parents do it, seek support from the other parents.
They either ask as friends and it's unpaid or paid in some cases, or some childminders will do it or non childminders will do it for a small amount. That's how it's done in my area anyway.

You need to try your very best to get a support system in place now, just in case he goes for custody.

I also wouldn't mention a thing to him about maintenance, I wouldn't want him thinking how much easier it would be for you to leave, him to quit his job and make you pay maintenance and all of the bills etc.

I'd probably wait for a while if he does move out to try to get any maintenance from him, I would imagine he'll be horrible about it and you can make sure you keep all of those messages etc. if it ever comes down to going to court!

ffswhatnext · 11/11/2019 14:55

His free ride is over. That's the only reason he wants to leave. He's hoping you will crumble.
Don't.

PlasticPatty · 11/11/2019 15:01

Flowers For you, OP.

Be kind to yourself. Countless women have put up with bloody awful men, and probably some men have a hard time in relationships, too.

You sound ace (honestly, no shit) I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done , I know the type Wink and you will be so much better off without him. Work it out, and treat yourself to a new life.

Peanutbuttermouth · 11/11/2019 15:28

So he didn't even bother taking the dbs check last time he was offered a job yet now he has managed to get full time work with vulnerable people, leaving you both in the lurch with regard to the school run? That sounds pretty passive aggressive to me, or thoughtless at the very least.

The messaging other women would have been the line in the sand for me.

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 16:37

Hi everyone, thank you for your replies again today, they are helping me keep positive and focused.

I've just got an appointment to visit a nursery tomorrow for morning childcare, £8.95 per child- bloody bargain! I can drop off at 7.30am and they'll take my babies to school 🙂 I went to my children's school and asked for their recommendation, they gave me this nurserys details so should be ok! afterschool childcare is sorted, might not even need to arrange flexible working! It's a weight off!
Just one dead weight to dump off now... was hoping to talk today but he buggered off all morning (no idea where) and now both kids are here so we can't talk now 😑
He just made a sandwich for himself with the bread I bought yesterday and it pissed me off so much I had to leave the room😂 I hate feeling so petty 🙃

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PrettyPurse · 11/11/2019 17:24

Stay strong. Once the childcare is sorted you'll feel a lot more focused and can really decide what to do about him.

BumbleBeee69 · 11/11/2019 17:49

you NEED to talk.... get rid. Flowers

Innishh · 11/11/2019 18:14

Massive steps there Taetoes - you really are a doer - well done for getting the childcare sorted. You will go from strength to strength now with your lovely family.

spookysamhainwitch · 11/11/2019 21:18

@Taetoes glad you got the morning care sorted that sounds brilliant. And just shows you're more than capable on your own hey?

Try and get some sleep tonight. You were up all last night and must be shattered.

Middersweekly · 12/11/2019 08:21

@Taetoes well done for getting the childcare sorted, that must be a big weight off your mind. Just make sure you present the twat with the childcare bill and insist he pays half. Also if he wants to ‘save up’ (freeload) tell him he’s now got to pay half the bills out of his money until he leaves. Might get him gone sooner! Grin