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Bf wants to leave me after I made him get a job

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 18:28

1st time poster here, hi :)

Has my bf of 12 years been mugging me off or have I been a twat?

We have 2 children together, when I first met him he was a waster, spending all his wage on weed, I'd just got out of a 14yr marriage and he was a good escape from the monotony of a boring husband. My bf moved to be with me and got some crappy part tme jobs that he hated. 3 years on, I got pregnant with our DS, we agreed that because I had a regular, higher paying job, he would stay home to care for our DS. 2 years later our DD was born, everything was fine.. I did catch him twice chatting to women online, sharing pictures of himself to them.. we kind of got through it but it damaged trust I had in him and the relationship didn't ever feel the same again for me. I put it down to him feeling lonely and neglected at home, my job involved many hours and I was often stressed and tired when I got home.

I encouraged him to take a degree through open university which he spent 5 years doing, the plan was to have a great qualification then once the kids were in full time school he could get a job that he would enjoy and start contributing financially to our family.

When our DD finally went full time at school, it became apparent my bf had no intention of finding work at all. He half arsed his way through a couple of job interviews here and there, then got offered a job but needed a dbs check. He failed it for things he did before we met. All those years of studying culminated in sweet f. all and I was gutted.

Meanwhile, Bill's were piling up, I had been struggling for 2 years to keep on top of everything and pleaded with him to get s job to help, I even went off sick for stress for 2 months.. I was so unhappy having to do everything myself, he knew this... still nothing, no work that contributed anything meaningful.

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done. My last relationship was the same, I guess that's just the way I am. I love my children, I do think life would be so much easier without them.. I feel bad to think that way.

So, a month ago after another month of no contributions to the family finances, I told my bf I wanted him to leave. I wanted to scare him, to make him realise I was sick of his free loading and that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I still don't know for sure if I meant it. I just know I had enough of being the worrier over mounting Bill's while he sat at home doing nothing for hours while both kids were at school.

He got a job, full time. I was over the moon, finally, we could treat our kids, pay our Bill's, buy new furniture... I saw such a bright future for us all, for the first time in many years, I was really happy. A fortnight after he started work, I said let's sit down and go through what Bill's we can split up, I'd make a list.. he took absolutely no interest, I left it a few days thinking he would ask to see it.. nothing.

2 days ago, I made a flippant comment about his hours making childcare difficult and that he didn't need to do so many hours as we will have to pay childcare which would cancel out the extra hours he was doing.. I said unless you have a plan for all this extra money you're making..he went quiet. Later he admitted he was saving to move out.

He says that because I was so happy he got a job and that my mood changed so dramatically since then, that I only want him for his money.

8 years I have paid for everything. Found us homes to live in, taken us on holidays (very few on our budget but still I was the only one who planned these), bought cars for our family to use, always made sure our cupboards had food in them (I always do the weekly shop), bought our children clothes, birthday and christmas presents, furnished our home etc etc.. hes been a stay at home dad and that was great, he's been a great dad to our children, we always liked the role reversal of the sahm, I overlooked the sloppiness of keeping our home clean and tidy- he did the bare minimum at home but 2 kids are hard work I know this.

So back to my original question. Have I been a total mug all these years? Can you help me see this from his point of view? I'm feeling so stupid right now. He says I'm being selfish feeling like this.

He's got to live here until he can afford to move out, so now it feels even worse that I have to pay for everything and it's even more stressful because his hours are making childcare a complete nightmare, neither of us have friends or family nearby to help us out. I'm in such a mess :(

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Loveislandaddict · 10/11/2019 19:32

I think that you should retort back, that he only wants you for your money!

You’ve supported him all these years, encouraged him, provided food and boarding. It’s good he was a SAHD, but it’s normal that when the kids are school, that that partner gets a full or part-time job.

Now he has money of his own, he feels flush, and doesn’t feel he’s should share with you. That’s selfish!

I don’t think you have been a mug in the past.You’ve been the bread winner and done everything this entails.

However, he has become a selfish idiot and now he has money, feels he should spend it on himself, not the family.

JenniferM1989 · 10/11/2019 19:33

IdiotInDisguise, I doubt any MNers would give that advice to a SAHM that was messaging other men behind her partners back, planning to live off her partner while she saved to leave and hadn't even earnt a wage yet and was saying her partner was after her money 😂

Heartburn888 · 10/11/2019 19:33

It doesn’t sound like it was the best of relationships to begin with. You say he spent his wages on weed at the start but you wanted an escape from your exh.

I’d be really cross and to be honest I wouldn’t wait for him to save enough money, I’d tell him to go now and I’d take him to CMS for maintenance. He’s taken the piss out of you - don’t know how he can say you only want him for his money when he’s only just starting to contribute To the home and children which is (in my eyes) standard for an adult and parent. Holding down a job is not something you should be applauding and over appreciative of, he should do this because it’s what adults do. Let me guess, he was still smoking weed whilst sat at home?

Littlepeak34 · 10/11/2019 19:37

Sorry OP, but yes, he’s taking you for a ride.

It sounded ok (apart from the weed etc) until you said kids went to school and he didn’t get a job until you told him you wanted to leave. That just says it all. He wants to bum around at home all day while you do all the hard work.

Please don’t put up with that. I wouldn’t be allowing him to save up to leave while you pay all the bills and rent. I’d be telling him to leave ASAP or give him a very short time limit. He is the father of your kids and you said he was a good dad. Try and keep things civil for the sake of the kids but so sorry to say, you have to get rid of him as your partner.

You can do better.

AnyFucker · 10/11/2019 19:45

You've been had, love.

Tell him to go. Immediately.

Innishh · 10/11/2019 20:00

I think there might be OW either waiting in the wings or that he is teeing up ..... given that he was posting online previously?

Not heard of any man who just decides to leave with no one to go to? What sort of work does he do - could he have met someone else?

namina · 10/11/2019 20:08

Let him go

stayathomegardener · 10/11/2019 20:15

I'd worry he would go for full custody and maintenance.

I'd preempt whatever I could.

Don't be a mug twice. Flowers

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 20:25

How do I preempt that stayathomegardener? Damned if I'm going to come out even worse over this then him 😑

My eyes have been opened reading the opinions on this thread, I just read the whole lot again but tried to imagine it wasn't me.. you're all correct in your thoughts. Funny how you can just sail through life day by day and not see what's right in front of your eyes 🙁

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Bluetrews25 · 10/11/2019 20:31

He doesn't strike me as someone who will want custody.
Too happy to be off in a place of his own / new GFs. Kids will get in the way of all the fun he is planning on.

Middersweekly · 10/11/2019 20:37

He has definitely been a lazy and selfish partner. I don’t think you’re a mug OP, I think you were just doing what you could to keep your family ticking over. He’s taken full advantage of the fact you’ve looked after him all this time and now he’s earning he wants to leave because it’s ‘his’ money?! I would tell him not to let the door hit him in the arse on the way out personally! The only criticism I have is, you asked him to get a job which he did (eventually) and then you complained about childcare not being covered. Sometimes you need to make sacrifices to stay in employment which might be what he was doing. Showing some initiative to show he’s worthy. I would put the kids in an after school club and suggest he pays for it.

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 20:43

Fair comment middersweekly, now that I am thinking differently/clearly.. I just wonder if he took this job knowing how disruptive it would be to childcare, I've been doing the same shift patterns for the last 10 years.. we both need to start work at 8am so no way of getting the kids to school. I've muddled through the last 3 weeks hes been working by swopping shifts and using up my holiday allowance.

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smileylottie87 · 10/11/2019 20:51

So he thinks you're only with him for "his" money when he has admitted he is staying with you to make himself financially stable enough to move out? That sounds very much to me like he is with you for your money. So sorry you're going through this OP Thanks

Happyspud · 10/11/2019 21:01

Has he said he’s taking the kids? I would think he would have a good shot at it considering he’s been their primary carer. You will be able to screw him out of his right to family assets though as he was stump enough not to marry you.

I can’t help my mind switching to if this exact case had been the SAHM rather than the SAHD though.... seems quite hypocritical.

Butterymuffin · 10/11/2019 21:12

Plus now he sees the attraction of money he can keep to himself, he will want to hang on to that, since he won't have you supporting him. Hold your nerve and tell him he needs to go right now if he won't contribute properly.

curlykaren · 10/11/2019 21:18

Honestly, proceed with caution. My very good friend lost residence of her son under similar circumstances. She was working full time, he a sahd with the promise to go back to work when the child went full time at school. He refused to return to work and by the time they divorced he portrayed himself as main carer. Actually, he was a lazy fucking cunt who never took his child anywhere. He then took the child over 3 hours away and she sees him every other weekend and half holidays. It has been hugely traumatic for her and the child. For the time being, don't rock the boat, let him establish himself working and YOU make all arrangements for child care when he's at work. Stop paying for anything to do with him though, food, petrol etc. It can and does happen that the father gets residence and then you'll be paying for him not to work for even longer.

DailyMailcanfuckthefuckoff · 10/11/2019 21:27

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive

I mean this nicely OP, but are these actually YOUR words? Or are they his? You sound like someone who wants to do the best they can for their family, and you put yourself last. Sorry you're going through this. A lot of other posters have offered you some excellent advice already, so all I can add is, all the best!

IDontEvenHaveAPla · 10/11/2019 21:31

OP, had you been a man saying most of this about a SAHM the replies would have been so different. No one would have mentioned cocklodger/user, in fact there would have been constant messages about the fact you are the primary owner and the other person has facilitated you to be able to do your job by looking after the children full time.

The double standards on this site are constant and disgusting, but yet they always amaze me.

This man has supported you whilst you work looking after the children, that is not an easy task. As someone else mentioned (only one), SAHD do not get the same treatment as a SAHM. A SAHM would have been repeatedly told she has every right to money earned as she has helped you save so much in childcare and so forth.

I also find the fact that despite mentioning your own faults, no one has been bothered to take them into consideration. No, it's not easy or nice to live with someone who is not affectionate, moody and sulky. Had you been a man, there would have been a ton of messages with LTB for being sulky alone. But of course, you're a woman so everything is different for you.

Now, his attitude to working was not right, but he has since got to doing what's necessary and yet you still found an issue by going on about childcare - so it still wasn't enough for you.

Perhaps take into consideration your own behaviour and attitude and also understand this man has actually raised your children and done all the needful whilst you worked.

What may have shocked him is your change of attitude to him once he did begin work as you appear to have shown no respect or appreciation for the fact he was actually looking after the children prior.

This site is full of double standards, you'll not often get a fair perspective and no matter what, for most the man will always be wrong.

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 10/11/2019 21:33

we both need to start work at 8am so no way of getting the kids to school

Hang on, you insisted that he get a job, but you also expect him to do all the kids pickups and dropoffs? What was your plan for holidays and when they were ill?

It sounds a bit like you expected him to find some mythical, flexible job that wouldn't inconvenience you at all, but still allow him to contribute financially. Those jobs are hard to come by.

carly2803 · 10/11/2019 21:33

yeah OP you are a mug. get his shit and tell him to leave by the end of the week.

At least you are not wasting another 12 years with this cocklodger

IDontEvenHaveAPla · 10/11/2019 21:35

@FineWordsForAPorcupine Thank goodness, it seems like you and I are reading the same thread. Can you imagine the response if this had been a man?

It sounds a bit like you expected him to find some mythical, flexible job that wouldn't inconvenience you at all, but still allow him to contribute financially.

100% to the above.

ahhgoongoongoonhaveacupoftea · 10/11/2019 21:38

I think you have op. Sorry to say that but you have been a mug. Kick him out now. Don't do him a favour by allowing him to stay until he can move out comfortably.

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 10/11/2019 21:44

Kick him out now

Wow. Kick out your children's primary carer?

I almost never do this, but I'm calling reverse on this one.

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 21:50

IDontEvenHaveAPla and FineWordsForAPorcupine... thank you both for your thoughts on this, I need a mans perspective to understand if I am being a twat or not.

I have appreciated his sacrifice in being a sahd in order to carry on my career. our youngest DD has been in FT school since Sept '17, thinking back, he knew when that time was coming and didn't apply for a single job through the summer holidays that year.. it's been 2 years of begging him to find a job in that time. He never wanted to do anything beneath his qualification so jobs were very scarce, now he has a job in a care home which is nothing to do at all with his degree.
How long a time do you both think it acceptable to continue being the sole responsibility of keeping a home when a parent is not needed to be at home to care for a child?
Having a job gives you self esteem, independence, a purpose, I won't apologise for expecting him to work to help provide.

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 21:52

*help provide for the children he helped make!

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