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Bf wants to leave me after I made him get a job

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 18:28

1st time poster here, hi :)

Has my bf of 12 years been mugging me off or have I been a twat?

We have 2 children together, when I first met him he was a waster, spending all his wage on weed, I'd just got out of a 14yr marriage and he was a good escape from the monotony of a boring husband. My bf moved to be with me and got some crappy part tme jobs that he hated. 3 years on, I got pregnant with our DS, we agreed that because I had a regular, higher paying job, he would stay home to care for our DS. 2 years later our DD was born, everything was fine.. I did catch him twice chatting to women online, sharing pictures of himself to them.. we kind of got through it but it damaged trust I had in him and the relationship didn't ever feel the same again for me. I put it down to him feeling lonely and neglected at home, my job involved many hours and I was often stressed and tired when I got home.

I encouraged him to take a degree through open university which he spent 5 years doing, the plan was to have a great qualification then once the kids were in full time school he could get a job that he would enjoy and start contributing financially to our family.

When our DD finally went full time at school, it became apparent my bf had no intention of finding work at all. He half arsed his way through a couple of job interviews here and there, then got offered a job but needed a dbs check. He failed it for things he did before we met. All those years of studying culminated in sweet f. all and I was gutted.

Meanwhile, Bill's were piling up, I had been struggling for 2 years to keep on top of everything and pleaded with him to get s job to help, I even went off sick for stress for 2 months.. I was so unhappy having to do everything myself, he knew this... still nothing, no work that contributed anything meaningful.

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done. My last relationship was the same, I guess that's just the way I am. I love my children, I do think life would be so much easier without them.. I feel bad to think that way.

So, a month ago after another month of no contributions to the family finances, I told my bf I wanted him to leave. I wanted to scare him, to make him realise I was sick of his free loading and that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I still don't know for sure if I meant it. I just know I had enough of being the worrier over mounting Bill's while he sat at home doing nothing for hours while both kids were at school.

He got a job, full time. I was over the moon, finally, we could treat our kids, pay our Bill's, buy new furniture... I saw such a bright future for us all, for the first time in many years, I was really happy. A fortnight after he started work, I said let's sit down and go through what Bill's we can split up, I'd make a list.. he took absolutely no interest, I left it a few days thinking he would ask to see it.. nothing.

2 days ago, I made a flippant comment about his hours making childcare difficult and that he didn't need to do so many hours as we will have to pay childcare which would cancel out the extra hours he was doing.. I said unless you have a plan for all this extra money you're making..he went quiet. Later he admitted he was saving to move out.

He says that because I was so happy he got a job and that my mood changed so dramatically since then, that I only want him for his money.

8 years I have paid for everything. Found us homes to live in, taken us on holidays (very few on our budget but still I was the only one who planned these), bought cars for our family to use, always made sure our cupboards had food in them (I always do the weekly shop), bought our children clothes, birthday and christmas presents, furnished our home etc etc.. hes been a stay at home dad and that was great, he's been a great dad to our children, we always liked the role reversal of the sahm, I overlooked the sloppiness of keeping our home clean and tidy- he did the bare minimum at home but 2 kids are hard work I know this.

So back to my original question. Have I been a total mug all these years? Can you help me see this from his point of view? I'm feeling so stupid right now. He says I'm being selfish feeling like this.

He's got to live here until he can afford to move out, so now it feels even worse that I have to pay for everything and it's even more stressful because his hours are making childcare a complete nightmare, neither of us have friends or family nearby to help us out. I'm in such a mess :(

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Taetoes · 13/11/2019 13:58

He's changed every password on his laptop and computer aswell now, I don't know when because I hadn't looked at his browsing history for months. I guess I'm looking for proof that he's fucking about again so I can throw him out immediately.

Why would I want to do that to make myself feel even worse 😑 I'm not feeling very positive today, I'm wasting energy trying to think of clues that he's been playing me for all these years and it's making me feel really sad.

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Innishh · 13/11/2019 14:17

Don’t get stuck looking back for clues and reasons. You don’t have to JADE (justify, argue, defend, explain) your feelings.

Be clear how you feel right now and what you want for your family life moving forward and then make it happen. You sound like a formidable woman who has achieved so much already.

Get him gone ASAP - otherwise you are looking at months if it drifts into Dec as you have to get through Xmas and NY together. I would imagine he would be deliberately unpleasant to live under the same roof.

Don’t worry about residency - these types often threaten - never do it - EOW is a much more attractive for a lazy arse like him.

Coyoacan · 13/11/2019 14:44

I just want to say that I don't find mumsnet to be at all supportive of women who want to be SAHPs against the working spouse's wishes. No sexism here that I can see. Maybe you should get some legal advice OP about how his status as primary care will last now that he is working

Taetoes · 13/11/2019 16:35

Thank you @Innishh and @Coyoacan, good advice from you both, I feel a bit better now 🙂

Organising and planning ahead makes me feel better because I'm achieving small steps. I will look for advice from a solicitor next, I should get a free appointment locally... Maybe I'll use my ex husbands solicitors as they did such a great job against me Hmm

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MyMajesty · 14/11/2019 02:28

Definitely find out your rights and stop accepting what he's telling you.
Is he contributing at all to the shared expenses or is he just 'saving up'?
Bear in mind that the hours he's doing, in order to save up, are costing you extra in childcare.

Lostkeysinaraindrainurghh · 14/11/2019 02:54

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Mummyoflittledragon · 14/11/2019 03:18

Your ex husbands solicitor sounds like a good idea if they’re that cut throat.

zsazsajuju · 14/11/2019 04:18

He’s a man child of the highest order. You have been asking him to contribute financially for years and he has refused. Ignore all the nonsense about him “facilitating your career”. You wanted him to get a job and didn’t need or ask for him to be sahp.

I say the same in sahm threads when women think they have some sort of right not to work when their dp wants them to contribute financially. It’s one thing if this is freely agreed but quite another if oneparty has simply refused to get a job after years of begging.

Don’t be too hard on yourself. Once you’ve got rid of the manchild though, maybe you should consider your relationship patterns and what you could do to make better choices and improve future relationships

Wallywobbles · 14/11/2019 04:55

I very much doubt you can use ExH solicitor it'll be a conflict. Try more than one. They're not all going to be a good fit.

PerkyPomPoms · 14/11/2019 05:55

Just get him out and don’t put yourself out making his new home comfortable ffs. He is a grown man!

Starlight456 · 14/11/2019 06:26

One thing popped into my head today the longer you give him the bigger deposit he can save so bigger place he can afford .

I also had a friend works for a letting agency . The single person accommodation biggest time is January due to Christmas , there will be less accomodation around . Do bear this in mind

Loveislandaddict · 14/11/2019 07:01

I would show him sites such as spareroom.co.uk. My son found a room share on this with one months deposit. I know not ideal for the kids, but if he has decided to leave, why wait.

Until he showed his true colours, then I think it was a partnership. However, since then, he’s become a cocklodger.

Peanutbuttermouth · 14/11/2019 18:49

Hmm I'd be careful at pushing for him to move into a shared house as quickly as possible. He'll end up using it as an excuse to not see the dc and you'll end up doing 100% childcare (been there unfortunately).

Taetoes · 15/11/2019 03:26

Just thought I'd update you all, hes been having an affair for a year!

What a mug I have been. And he's still saying he won't leave the house. Fml

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rvby · 15/11/2019 03:45

Oh op. So sorry.

Did he tell you?
Ugh what a shock.

JourneyToThePlacentaOfTheEarth · 15/11/2019 03:55

Omg. OP I'm so sorry. What a complete waste of life he is.

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/11/2019 03:57

That puts an even more sinister spin on his victim blaming when he accused you of just wanting his money. He just wanted to continue not working, be a parasite and and be free to see her whilst you flogged yourself to provide for the family.

Does he really intend to leave? Can you get advice from the cab?

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Horehound · 15/11/2019 04:11

Even on page one ( I think) when he said you're only interested in his money...well! Seems like that's all he was interested in from you.
He's a hypocrite. Sorry op Flowers get him out!

Taetoes · 15/11/2019 04:15

I found out by snooping on an old phone, before I found out he said he needed until March to move out so I don't think he had an intention of telling me at all.
It's another mum at the school, who has 2 kids and a husband who doesn't know. I can't believe I have been so fucking stupid.

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Taetoes · 15/11/2019 04:17

I don't know what to do. I feel numb with shock

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PerkyPomPoms · 15/11/2019 04:20

Tell the husband and kick the bastard out would be a good start

Taetoes · 15/11/2019 04:21

That day at the school, he had been with her all morning. We've done so much over the last year, I'm sat flicking through our messages and on facebook, it's tainted everything, every happy memory with the kids.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 15/11/2019 04:24

He really does want his cake and eat it. March. He’s taking the piss. I don’t think you can legally throw him out. That’s why I suggested the cab.

I asked you way back how easy it is for you to do pick ups. I take it you depend on him to do this and you do drop offs?

Taetoes · 15/11/2019 04:24

I feel like I want to speak to her too, tell her like it is. I got screenshots of their messages, I've stopped myself from sending them to the husband so many times.

You know he said to me, that I'm going to make our break up all about this now, so nothing else I ever did will be as big as this. Everyone will think it was him who caused the break up when he says I haven't been innocent 😑

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