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Bf wants to leave me after I made him get a job

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 18:28

1st time poster here, hi :)

Has my bf of 12 years been mugging me off or have I been a twat?

We have 2 children together, when I first met him he was a waster, spending all his wage on weed, I'd just got out of a 14yr marriage and he was a good escape from the monotony of a boring husband. My bf moved to be with me and got some crappy part tme jobs that he hated. 3 years on, I got pregnant with our DS, we agreed that because I had a regular, higher paying job, he would stay home to care for our DS. 2 years later our DD was born, everything was fine.. I did catch him twice chatting to women online, sharing pictures of himself to them.. we kind of got through it but it damaged trust I had in him and the relationship didn't ever feel the same again for me. I put it down to him feeling lonely and neglected at home, my job involved many hours and I was often stressed and tired when I got home.

I encouraged him to take a degree through open university which he spent 5 years doing, the plan was to have a great qualification then once the kids were in full time school he could get a job that he would enjoy and start contributing financially to our family.

When our DD finally went full time at school, it became apparent my bf had no intention of finding work at all. He half arsed his way through a couple of job interviews here and there, then got offered a job but needed a dbs check. He failed it for things he did before we met. All those years of studying culminated in sweet f. all and I was gutted.

Meanwhile, Bill's were piling up, I had been struggling for 2 years to keep on top of everything and pleaded with him to get s job to help, I even went off sick for stress for 2 months.. I was so unhappy having to do everything myself, he knew this... still nothing, no work that contributed anything meaningful.

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done. My last relationship was the same, I guess that's just the way I am. I love my children, I do think life would be so much easier without them.. I feel bad to think that way.

So, a month ago after another month of no contributions to the family finances, I told my bf I wanted him to leave. I wanted to scare him, to make him realise I was sick of his free loading and that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I still don't know for sure if I meant it. I just know I had enough of being the worrier over mounting Bill's while he sat at home doing nothing for hours while both kids were at school.

He got a job, full time. I was over the moon, finally, we could treat our kids, pay our Bill's, buy new furniture... I saw such a bright future for us all, for the first time in many years, I was really happy. A fortnight after he started work, I said let's sit down and go through what Bill's we can split up, I'd make a list.. he took absolutely no interest, I left it a few days thinking he would ask to see it.. nothing.

2 days ago, I made a flippant comment about his hours making childcare difficult and that he didn't need to do so many hours as we will have to pay childcare which would cancel out the extra hours he was doing.. I said unless you have a plan for all this extra money you're making..he went quiet. Later he admitted he was saving to move out.

He says that because I was so happy he got a job and that my mood changed so dramatically since then, that I only want him for his money.

8 years I have paid for everything. Found us homes to live in, taken us on holidays (very few on our budget but still I was the only one who planned these), bought cars for our family to use, always made sure our cupboards had food in them (I always do the weekly shop), bought our children clothes, birthday and christmas presents, furnished our home etc etc.. hes been a stay at home dad and that was great, he's been a great dad to our children, we always liked the role reversal of the sahm, I overlooked the sloppiness of keeping our home clean and tidy- he did the bare minimum at home but 2 kids are hard work I know this.

So back to my original question. Have I been a total mug all these years? Can you help me see this from his point of view? I'm feeling so stupid right now. He says I'm being selfish feeling like this.

He's got to live here until he can afford to move out, so now it feels even worse that I have to pay for everything and it's even more stressful because his hours are making childcare a complete nightmare, neither of us have friends or family nearby to help us out. I'm in such a mess :(

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IDontEvenHaveAPla · 10/11/2019 22:01

@Taetoes I'm not a man OP, I just wanted to show you what you would have been told if you were a man.

All those years he has facilitated you to progress in your career and has fully looked after the children is not something to overlook, it matters and has made a significant positive to your life. Nonetheless, I completely respect it can be draining to be the sole earner, but unfortunately it's what often happens when children are involved.

He has now found a role, but even then you're not happy, you still expect him to facilitate everything with regards to the children. As mentioned by another PP, it's like you want him to do what you want, but you do not want to be inconvenienced at all and expect him to still be the main carer for the children also.

Perhaps now that he has seen what he has missed during the years he has been a SAHD he has realised he deserves better. It does not seem like you have acknowledged or appreciated anything he has done throughout the time you have been together. Furthermore as I mentioned before, if you truly are not affectionate and moody and sulky, that is draining and not easy to live with at all. In that case, I'm not surprised he would want to leave and find himself better.

He has had his flaws, but you knew of them when you got together. Whatever reason he failed his DBS, I would imagine those issues no longer exist now and are in his past. If he has moved on and learned from mistakes then it's not fair to bring that up either.

I think you both need to sit down and have an honest discussion about the relationship and where you think it is going. If it is to end then you both need a plan for the children and to consider what would be best for them. There's no reason to stay together and be miserable, but it is right that you do put the children first in whatever decision(s) you make.

Starlight456 · 10/11/2019 22:02

You need a childminder or breakfast club. It really is not possible for you both to be working and not pay for childcare.

Same with after school care . It simply won’t work

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 22:06

Idonthaveapla..
Perhaps take into consideration your own behaviour and attitude and also understand this man has actually raised your children and done all the needful whilst you worked.

I keep reading this paragraph particularly, wondering if I ever made it clear to him how much I have appreciated this.

I just wanted us to be a team, in sharing the responsibility of providing. I have felt so alone the last few years, he takes absolutely no interest in how much things cost despite inviting him to see ingoings and outgoings of things. It's incredibly stressful trying to make my wage stretch every month, we are left with nothing at the end, we live paycheck to paycheck. I've just never felt supported in this area at all, I just want our family to have a few treats now and again, a family Meal out together or the cinema, my eldest son sleeps on a camp bed, our tumble dryer is broken, we've had the same table and chairs a friend gave to me for free 12 years ago, our car is 12 years old a rusted to fuck, our kids have shoes with the toes all scuffed on them that I need to polish out every day. All our furniture is from a recycling centre. Why doesn't he want nice things for his kids? 🙁

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FineWordsForAPorcupine · 10/11/2019 22:08

I need a mans perspective to understand if I am being a twat or not

Can't help you there, I'm not a man. But I can give you my perspective :

Do you want to stay with this person? It doesn't sound like you like each other very much, and neither of you are happy. Added to that, he's actually told you to your face that the relationship is over.

Wouldn't it be best if you split up? Joint custody, divide your shared assets and go your separate ways?

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 22:12

Thank you IDontEvenHaveAPla, you have given me lots to think about, especially my own behaviour.

Thank you to everyone for your input, I've really found all this very helpful. I need to think a lot more about what is best to do.

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PrettyPurse · 10/11/2019 22:20

I already went through this once with my ex husband and our DS.

Have you got a child by your XH also, or did l read that wrong?

IDontEvenHaveAPla · 10/11/2019 22:24

OP, I appreciate a lot that you have not been offended by me bringing an alternate perspective.

As I stated before, resentment is not actually uncommon when one person is the sole earner, honestly. It can feel draining and you will feel like the other person does not understand how hard you work in order to keep a roof over your heads and to keep you fed.

This is where being honest with one another is vital, you both do your share to keep the house running. Whilst you work, he is not doing nothing, he has raised the children and provided them with all the needed care, love and attention. That is tiring also.

Out of habit, we can take our partners for granted at times, we can overlook times where we should be appreciative and certainly we can be annoyed by small things. You both are human.

The children are now in school, this is a whole new chapter in your lives. I think if overall he is a good partner and you do want to be with him, honesty may be something that saves this relationship. You can both say how appreciative you are of one another for what you have done for the family, and then decide on a plan for the long term for the children.

Also, if he is affectionate and you are not, maybe that is something that needs to be addressed too. Often when children come along, partners do neglect one another, but for a healthy, loving relationship, it is vital you both make time for one another and are attentive and caring. The smallest actions can sometimes have the biggest impact.

Start an honest discussion, one where you agree that whatever you two say will be taken into consideration and will not result into shouting and swearing but will be an opportunity for you both to explain your perspectives so that you can decide what to do next.

If you both decide it is best that the relationship ends, it is still the better option to co-parent amicably and put the children as priority.

Relationships are bloody difficult, we all make mistakes and can get stuck in terrible habits. But it's not always too late to stop and change.

I hope whatever path you both go down it is best for you both and for the children. Just remember, you both have done things to accommodate your family, just do not get into a war of who has done more.

HUZZAH212 · 10/11/2019 22:26

I'm not saying it's the case but if he's working in a care setting there's a high proportion of female workers. Is its possible he's laid it on thick he's been a poor hard done by SAHD for years, and he's got the oooh you deserve better 🤔

Branleuse · 10/11/2019 22:27

Hes been a stay at home parent or working part time while studying for a degree. You say youre hard to live with, unaffectionate, passive aggressive and sulky, and also when he did get a full time job youre annoyed that the hours make it harder for childcare? No shit he wants to leave. It just sounds miserable for the both of you tbh.

RightOnTheEdge · 10/11/2019 22:30

Have you got two ds OP?

You said,
I already went through this once with my ex husband and our DS.

But in your OP you only mention your dc with your bf.

I was just wondering if so whether your XH was involved.

IDontEvenHaveAPla · 10/11/2019 22:32

Ah OP, previous posters have pointed out something that even I missed. Has your current boyfriend also looked after your child from your previous relationship?

user1481840227 · 10/11/2019 23:09

If you want to split up but worry that he might try to get custody then maybe it would be better that you keep paying for everything, let him think he's rich, if he's never had money of his own he probably feels like he's loaded right now and can go off and live his best life living in some cheap accommodation somewhere!

user1481840227 · 10/11/2019 23:12

Also it's perfectly normal to be really happy when your partner gets a job and perfectly normal that peoples moods chance for the better because of it, the excitement thinking about the future, being proud of your partner and all of that stuff!

rvby · 10/11/2019 23:16

Yeah go carefully op.

I'd not kick him out. Bide your time. Let him get a proper job. Reorganize your life so that you do at least 50% of everything. Let him move out... let 50 become 80 or 100%.

See a solicitor and make a plan.

Move too quickly and I warn you, you'll end up.paying him maintenance and barely seeing your kids.

He's a fuck head but don't let him make this all even worse. Outwit, outplay, outlast.

MyMajesty · 10/11/2019 23:21

My DS has been a SAHD.
He recently got a job. He is very happy that his DP will feel less stressed now that they have two wages coming in.
That is how your partner should feel, OP.

Taetoes · 10/11/2019 23:46

Hi, yes I already went through this with my ex husband. He took me to court for custody of my eldest 15yr old child 7 years ago, I was given weekends and half of all school holidays. It was the worst time of my life and I'm desperate to not be in the same position again this time around.
My partner does on few occasions look after my eldest, my ex husband drops him off with me on Fridays and I always return him to school on Monday morning.

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 23:49

*I was advised at the time by solicitors that as primary carer, I would likely get custody then but it completely flipped on me so it was a huge shock. I know these things can not turn out how you expect it to. It was an awful time of cafcass interviews and court hearings, I got ripped to shreds for being a working mum then 😑

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 23:53

I have very little, if any contact with my ex husband now since my eldest is old enough to decide for himself where he wants to be.

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57Varieties · 10/11/2019 23:57

“You only want him for his money” cheeky cunt, who does he think he is, Lewis Hamilton or someone?

Yes you have been a mug but pack his bags and bin him off, you’ll probably end up better off as you’ve paid for everything anyway and now at least you don’t have to support this cocklodger

SummerBreezemakesmefeelfine · 11/11/2019 00:06

How has DP got a job in a care home with vulnerable people if there was a problem with his DBS?

Now that both of you are working you urgently need to figure out who will do the school runs and school holiday childcare. Many families face the same problem, but it can be overcome. Free early morning childcare is only available to families who have a SAHP or a GP willing to step in, everyone else simply has to suck it up and pay for childcare. Your DP has to understand this as well.

As others have said be careful about kicking him out at this stage. If he decides to go then you have no control over this anyway and will become a single parent, with all the difficulties that brings.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 11/11/2019 00:12

To be honest....

I've seen many many posts on here from SAHM who are studying being advised to get their heads down, get their qualifications and then get the hell out of their miserable relationships.

Could that be what's happened?

You don't paint yourself as the easiest person to live with. Maybe that's because you yourself were so unhappy. So the two of you just don't belong together.

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 00:35

He didn't even bother taking the dbs check back to the first job he was offered, just assumed he would fail. It was for cannabis possession, 3 seperate times with court appearances and fines but he said he couldn't remember going to court or paying the fines so didn't know they were there 🤷🏻‍♀️

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HUZZAH212 · 11/11/2019 00:36

As for only wanting him for his money he'll be on what, £1200-1400pmth? Is Mr Moneybags deciding on where his mansion and super yacht will be based?

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 00:43

Contraceptionismyfriend I haven't been the easiest no, I was trying to provide both sides of the story so I could get opinions from all angles. I wasn't always this way, I used to be fun, happy, a go getter, worked hard to further my career, spent more time with my kids, enjoyed spending time with my sisters and brother .. I've been ground down over the years to a miserable, old bitch fixated on stretching my money as far as I can. I'm not saying I'm any different than other families struggling to make ends meet, just that we had an opportunity to make life a little bit easier and a little less stressful.. so disappointed I'm in this situation, for my children more than anything. I don't really have anyone objective to talk to about this, I'm so grateful of every reply I'm getting here.

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Taetoes · 11/11/2019 00:47

HUZZAH212 😂😂 Its not a lot, you're right..it would make a MASSIVE difference to our standard of living though joined with my wage. We wouldn't need tax credits for a start and he would start contributing to his pension, I'm terrified of old age, we have absolutely fuck all and nothing to give our children when they want to start their further education.

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