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Bf wants to leave me after I made him get a job

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Taetoes · 10/11/2019 18:28

1st time poster here, hi :)

Has my bf of 12 years been mugging me off or have I been a twat?

We have 2 children together, when I first met him he was a waster, spending all his wage on weed, I'd just got out of a 14yr marriage and he was a good escape from the monotony of a boring husband. My bf moved to be with me and got some crappy part tme jobs that he hated. 3 years on, I got pregnant with our DS, we agreed that because I had a regular, higher paying job, he would stay home to care for our DS. 2 years later our DD was born, everything was fine.. I did catch him twice chatting to women online, sharing pictures of himself to them.. we kind of got through it but it damaged trust I had in him and the relationship didn't ever feel the same again for me. I put it down to him feeling lonely and neglected at home, my job involved many hours and I was often stressed and tired when I got home.

I encouraged him to take a degree through open university which he spent 5 years doing, the plan was to have a great qualification then once the kids were in full time school he could get a job that he would enjoy and start contributing financially to our family.

When our DD finally went full time at school, it became apparent my bf had no intention of finding work at all. He half arsed his way through a couple of job interviews here and there, then got offered a job but needed a dbs check. He failed it for things he did before we met. All those years of studying culminated in sweet f. all and I was gutted.

Meanwhile, Bill's were piling up, I had been struggling for 2 years to keep on top of everything and pleaded with him to get s job to help, I even went off sick for stress for 2 months.. I was so unhappy having to do everything myself, he knew this... still nothing, no work that contributed anything meaningful.

I have to say, I am not the easiest person to live with, I am not particularly affectionate, I am moody, I sulk a lot, I am passive aggressive.. but I do try my best to give my family everything, I work hard, I make the house nice, I'm the planner, the organizer, I plan holidays, purchases, finances, I get things done. My last relationship was the same, I guess that's just the way I am. I love my children, I do think life would be so much easier without them.. I feel bad to think that way.

So, a month ago after another month of no contributions to the family finances, I told my bf I wanted him to leave. I wanted to scare him, to make him realise I was sick of his free loading and that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I still don't know for sure if I meant it. I just know I had enough of being the worrier over mounting Bill's while he sat at home doing nothing for hours while both kids were at school.

He got a job, full time. I was over the moon, finally, we could treat our kids, pay our Bill's, buy new furniture... I saw such a bright future for us all, for the first time in many years, I was really happy. A fortnight after he started work, I said let's sit down and go through what Bill's we can split up, I'd make a list.. he took absolutely no interest, I left it a few days thinking he would ask to see it.. nothing.

2 days ago, I made a flippant comment about his hours making childcare difficult and that he didn't need to do so many hours as we will have to pay childcare which would cancel out the extra hours he was doing.. I said unless you have a plan for all this extra money you're making..he went quiet. Later he admitted he was saving to move out.

He says that because I was so happy he got a job and that my mood changed so dramatically since then, that I only want him for his money.

8 years I have paid for everything. Found us homes to live in, taken us on holidays (very few on our budget but still I was the only one who planned these), bought cars for our family to use, always made sure our cupboards had food in them (I always do the weekly shop), bought our children clothes, birthday and christmas presents, furnished our home etc etc.. hes been a stay at home dad and that was great, he's been a great dad to our children, we always liked the role reversal of the sahm, I overlooked the sloppiness of keeping our home clean and tidy- he did the bare minimum at home but 2 kids are hard work I know this.

So back to my original question. Have I been a total mug all these years? Can you help me see this from his point of view? I'm feeling so stupid right now. He says I'm being selfish feeling like this.

He's got to live here until he can afford to move out, so now it feels even worse that I have to pay for everything and it's even more stressful because his hours are making childcare a complete nightmare, neither of us have friends or family nearby to help us out. I'm in such a mess :(

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Contraceptionismyfriend · 11/11/2019 00:50

@Taetoes but that's no way to live.
He needed financial security to leave.

Now he's got that you can both sign with relief. You can be happy again.

It will be tough short term. It may seem bleak and you may feel helpless.

It's OK to be sad. You can be angry. Absolutely. I'd be raging. But you've got to believe that you will come out of this a lot better.

HUZZAH212 · 11/11/2019 01:07

Do you want him to stay OP? Either way I'd be sitting him down and saying, if he stays he'll have X amount left for himself each month so he doesn't feel like he's working for nothing - yes, I'm aware of the irony! But still!. Or if he's moving out he needs to find somewhere within X time frame, and you'll still be expecting his contribution to the bills after his payday because no free house, car, gas, electric, food whilst he 'saves', and he needs to contribute to his children. Is there a breakfast club to drop at school earlier? Or are you friendly with someone who could share taking/collecting them from school with?

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 01:45

I don't think I do, no. In any case, he has said to me tonight that he thinks we will be happier living apart. I'm still really angry to even have a sensible discussion with him right now, I suppose I'm still in the shock and lash out stage. After all these replies today, my brain is whirring with how to sort out my job (might try to sort a short term flexible working request for a couple of months until I get settled), childcare and of course finances (worried that I should inform hmrc about his job or I will be having to pay back money- ANOTHER bill!) to even consider what hes doing 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Taetoes · 11/11/2019 01:48

Re breakfast club, it starts at 8.10am when we need to be in work for 8am so that won't work, all the local nurseries also don't start until 8am.. how do people work when having children?! 😂 After school is fine, plenty of choice for that. I don't have anyone here to ask to help with mornings 🙈

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MissMoan · 11/11/2019 01:59

I really feel for you. You've invested so much into this relationship and he is being completely selfish. I know from experience that when you spend so much time with the crazy, you tend to get desensitized to it. Cut him off and waste no more time on this man.

HUZZAH212 · 11/11/2019 02:15

You have a month to inform Hmrc of changes. However, if he's moving out and you'll not be seeing anything of his income I'd look into your next change of circumstances being a lone parent claim. They're renowned for dragging heels, and if you bring his employment into the mix it'll probably screw your claim more than just stating he's left the household. They may start asking for his payslips which obviously you'll not have access to either. Definately ask your line manager for flexi time surrounding starting an hour later due to family changes, they can only say yes or no. Also ring around CMs, mine was open to a 7:15 drop off, and had two children older she'd do the school run for.

BlackAudi · 11/11/2019 03:30

When I got to the bit about only wanting him for his money, my jaw hit the floor..... ShockShockShock

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/11/2019 04:25

I don’t agree with the assumption that were you talking about a woman, the responses would have been different. The threads I’ve read recently posted by sahms, who don’t want to work have had their arse handed to them.

Along with this have been a couple of threads from men complaining about their female partners, where posters have pretty much unanimously agree it isn’t ok to expect your male partner to work while you stay at home. The latest was a woman, whose baby is not yet 1.

I also think you need to tread very carefully. I know you want to kick him out but I would resist the urge for now. The comment of you only wanting him for his money was awful.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/11/2019 04:26

I forgot to mention some nurseries allow children to get dropped off at 7,30 for an additional fee. Dds childminder took children from 7am

itwasalovelydreamwhileitlasted · 11/11/2019 05:03

I'm confused......so you've nagged him and nagged him to get a job.....now he has you're complaining it doesn't fit with childcare??? You do sound hard work and I can honestly see why he's decided to leave you?

Not sure what you expected OP?

And yeah this thread highlights the terrible double standards between men and women - if the roles were reversed you'd be told to stay in the house fight for sole custody and lauded for the contribution you had made to enable the other partner to go out and work and have a career 🤷‍♀️

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 05:12

itwasalovelydreamwhileitlasted thank you for your reply. While I'm fretting over childcare, I wonder has my partner at all.. 🤔 answer Is NOPE 😂 In fact he expected me to have it all worked out in less than 24 hours the night before, was amazed I didn't have the answers yet and took a huff when I asked what he's sorted out since he's known the plan 3 weeks longer than me 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Cloverbeauty · 11/11/2019 05:50

IdiotInDisguise, I doubt any MNers would give that advice to a SAHM that was messaging other men behind her partners back, planning to live off her partner while she saved to leave and hadn't even earnt a wage yet and was saying her partner was after her money 😂

I have seen posters on here in similar situations say that he deserved to be cheated on for not paying her enough attention.

Sorry op but you are being slightly unreasonable here. He was a stay at home parent until the kids went to school. He then eventually got a job, albeit was reluctant but he did (who wouldn't be even a bit reluctant after many years not working?). Then he gets a job, and you still insist that he has to look after the kids as well while you do none of it? So it's all his job to pick up the kids, drop them off etc. How is that fair? Where do you sit in all of that?

Honestly now if he leaves you are fucked. He could take the kids if he wanted to and you'd be seeing them every other weekend. Or he could doubly fuck you up and just abandon you and the kids, leaving you to do everything and he becomes a weekend dad, probably not providing much if any maintenance.

Either way you've been stupid. Well done.

Cloverbeauty · 11/11/2019 05:53

Also you can say he had no plan for childcare, but nor did you. Why didnt you both talk about it together rather than assume the other had it in control?

Are you not adult enough to have a conversation? Confused

spookysamhainwitch · 11/11/2019 06:07

@Taetoes is he aware he'll have to pay maintenance on top of his own living expenses once he leaves?

Are the kids old enough yet to make their own way to school? Or could you drop them to a friends in the mornings?

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 06:25

Ok so I dump a fairly well paid job that's put food on our table for the last 10 years to do the school runs... for a job he's had 3 weeks, has no interest in and will probably jack in within a couple of months. Yes, that would be smart 🤔
When he took the job he said the hours were part time around school times, they've blown up into 5x 12 hour shifts once his first weeks training had been done. I never asked him to get a full time job but now he has it- good for him! He'll be out of my life quicker the more he earns.
I will sort this problem with childcare out, I don't need him. I just need to adjust myself to a new routine.

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Cloverbeauty · 11/11/2019 06:33

Who said dump your job? The kids are your responsibility too, not just his. You could have thought about school runs too is all I'm saying.

But hey if you're gonna be better off without him, kick him out now then. No point prolonging it.

Taetoes · 11/11/2019 06:33

@spookysamhainwitch He will probably know this, yes. I have no idea which way he will go re custody of children, I'm presuming he wont want his children to go through what my eldest ds went through during the custody case so will try to do things between us and amicably.

The kids are too young to walk to school alone and I don't know anyone around here :/

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UhareFouxisci · 11/11/2019 06:36

Yeah you've probably be a bit of a mug but he's not been a complete cocklodger - the time before your youngest started school was all fair enough, he was making a vital contribution to the family by being the sahp. He seriously thought that those years should give him a licence to freeload for as long as he felt like it? You've made it clear this isn't on and he is affronted.

Him taking on a full time job is definitely passive aggressive, you aren't the only one dancing to that tune.

Your relationship is clearly over. Both of you seem emotionally immature and volatile and you both need to work out a way to make sure this whole mess doesn't hurt your kids. For their sake, learn to negotiate with one another in a civilised way putting their best interests first.

Given that he has been primary carer for so many years he will probably be the resident parent and you will need to pay maintenance. That will be tough but staying together after such a total breakdown is likely to be more damaging in the long run.

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 11/11/2019 06:57

His accusation that you "only want him for his money" was a bit dramatic, but there's a grain of truth in it - you have only talked about his a) failings and b) potential to provide additional income and childcare.

You don't seem concerned with him as a person or partner - what you want is him to do all the childcare logistics and then fit in a few hours paid work around that, so you can continue your career with the benefit of additional income and still no childcare worries.

It's not unreasonable to want to not have the sole responsibility for earning money, but it sounds like neither of you have thought through the logistics of having two working parents - you have to pay for a lot of wraparound care.

And I ask again - do you even like this guy? Sounds like you'd be better off apart. And what would be so wrong with him getting primary custody? Sounds like you arent able to drop the kids off at school anyway, so they prob be better off with him the majority of the time.

Cloverbeauty · 11/11/2019 07:46

What are you going to do about your other son too? You get him on the weekends and have to drop him off on Mondays at school I take it. But this is assuming you get custody.

prawnsword · 11/11/2019 08:02

You’re not married! Pack his bag & kick him out TODAY. My blood is boiling for you. You’re using HIM? He never loved you or cared about your money worries, it wasn’t the weed making him lazy. It’s who he is.

Don’t pander time him needing to save to move out. He can get a room on gumtree easy, he could ask family or friends, make him not be your problem anymore

Bentoforthehorde · 11/11/2019 08:03

I'm a SAHM.
Are people honestly saying that it's understandable and acceptable to not want to go back to work for years after the kids are back at school?
And then if I do go back to work, it's cool for me to turn round and say, having my own money is nice, I'm keeping it?
This isn't one rich partner being a dick to someone who's sacrificed and slogged away for nothing. This family are scraping by for fucks sake.
Only an arsehole would behave the way he has.
Tell work you need a leave of absence or something, not permanent. But if I was at risk of even hypothetically losing my kids I'd drop everything. Speak to a solicitor. His wages will count towards your tax credits, you will be owing them money. He's only thinking of himself you really really must do the same.

prawnsword · 11/11/2019 08:05

Why don’t you get an au pair ? Don’t they live with you for free in return for childcare ?

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 11/11/2019 08:13

Don’t they live with you for free in return for childcare?

Err, no, that's a domestic slave you're thinking of :)

prawnsword · 11/11/2019 08:17

Then what is an au pair because I thought that’s what they were. Sometimes you pay them a weekly fee too for pocket money, but this is the deal they get to live in your home & be like a live in nanny.