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*Trigger Warning* I really don’t know how to feel

222 replies

CantRememberHoliday · 31/08/2019 10:20

I was spiked and raped in 2017 whilst on a girl’s holiday, I made a thread about it at the time under this username. I’ve coped quite well with it but sometimes things remind me of it and can’t make me feel a bit shaken/sad.

Anyway, I’ve been with my boyfriend for around a year and he’s been great, absolutely perfect in regard to handling me and my trauma. I’m his first sexual partner and he’s my first consensual one (I’m 20, he’s 19).

I recently came off the pill as it was exacerbating a health condition I have, meaning we’re back to using condoms. Yesterday was the first time we’d seen each other since my last pack finished but he knew at the time, so had a while to think about it, order condoms etc.

Last night we were kissing etc and he suggested we try anal. We’ve tried once before but I had to ask him to stop, which he did. Last night a similar situation occurred where it hurt and we stopped and I talked about how it had brought back memories. He just cuddled up to me and was amazing in making me feel safe and secure.

This morning we were doing foreplay again and I said he could get a condom and we could have sex. He usually waits for me to say I’m ready to avoid even the tiniest bit of discomfort for me. Instead he penetrated me without a condom on and after 4 or so thrusts I realised and said “I didn’t say you could do that” and he apologised and said he just got carried away. I know he’d stopped the night before so was probably quite frustrated but I can’t shake the feeling that it’s happened again.

He tried to comfort me and apologised but I couldn’t speak to him and just went and had a shower. I don’t know what to do now.
I feel violated but at the same time I also feel like he genuinely didn’t mean to. He’s asked again if I’m okay and I’ve left for a little while.

Sorry for any errors just venting, I guess.

OP posts:
AmIThough · 31/08/2019 15:40

You don't have to have sex with him whether he remembered condoms or not.

Take time to think about how you feel.

pog100 · 31/08/2019 15:46

Then don't have it. If he objects in any way you have your answer as to what sort of bloke he really is. You do not exist to satisfy his sexual urges. You do not have to please or satisfy him. You are you, you have bodily autonomy.

CantRememberHoliday · 31/08/2019 15:47

Also no, he didn’t pretend to put one on, he just stuck it in. It took 4 or so thrusts for me to react because I was so shocked I guess.

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Tyrotoxicity · 31/08/2019 15:48

After all that, he "forgot" to pack the condoms?!

Forgot my arse.

He's so committed to ensuring you're comfortable and consenting that he "forgot" the condoms right after violating you by "forgetting" the condom when you'd explicitly said consent was dependent on the condom.

Fucking hell, OP. He might or might not be as bad as some men, but he is a very fucking long way away from 'handling' your trauma perfectly.

He's handling it perfectly for him. Not for you.

SavingSpaces2019 · 31/08/2019 15:49

he apologised and said he just got carried away
What an utter crock of shite!

He KNEW he wasn't wearing a condom!
He KNEW about your previous trauma....yet still went ahead and violated your boundary.

Don't minimise this.
He knew EXACTLY what he was doing - IGNORING AND VIOLATING YOUR BOUNDARY WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT.
I wouldn't be carrying on like it was an 'honest mistake' - because it wasn't.
I also wouldn't be going on holiday with him or worrying about his family's feelings above my own.

BlackCatSleeping · 31/08/2019 15:57

Yeah, he really doesn’t want to use condoms. He’s lying to you. He’s manipulating you. He’s not a good guy.

CantRememberHoliday · 31/08/2019 16:00

He doesn’t want to use condoms, no. I only tried the pill because he can’t finish whilst wearing one. I’d previously said no way to the pill as i was worried about potential side effects

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Missmadamefluff · 31/08/2019 16:01

you didn't consent to sex without a condom, what he has done is wrong. I had the same thing happen to me.
You feelings are valid. seek some help, talk to someone even if it is Samaritans. You need some professional help too.

Im sorry he did that to you. It was really, really wrong of him. And I would of been frightened in your situation x

AmIThough · 31/08/2019 16:06

You should ideally use two forms of contraception anyway so he needs to grow up.

Have you tried different types of condoms?

FatherFintanFay · 31/08/2019 16:06

Every update you post makes him sound worse. Your sex life currently consists of him doing whatever he pleases whether you enjoy it or not, and he made you go on the pill because he can't finish when he's wearing a condom. Basically, his orgasm is more important to him than your wellbeing. I hope you use the time after this holiday to get the hell away from this man, OP. He is not a nice person.

S1naidSucks · 31/08/2019 16:08

Oh god OP! Are you going to a local destination or flying? If I were you, I’d wait until I had an opportunity, then go straight back home. He sounds horrible. I think you know in your heart that you want out if this relationship, but you’re feel (wrongly) that you owe it to him to stay. You NEVER owe a relationship to someone.

chergar · 31/08/2019 16:13

He can't finish with one on???

He is a 19 year old guy having sex with his first partner, I have never heard anything so ludicrous, I think he is spinning you a yarn here and manipulating you, did he never finish before you went on the pill?

He sounds like an immature twat to be honest.

Justme1234567 · 31/08/2019 16:16

Sorry these horrible things have happened to you.
But I think you should let it slide, but speak to him so it doesn’t happen again x

Tyrotoxicity · 31/08/2019 16:21

He wants to penetrate you, he doesn't want to use condoms, so you went on the pill despite your misgivings?

Contraception's important; you need a method that works for both of you. He wasn't cool with condoms, you weren't cool with the pill - so you went on the pill?

He knew you weren't covered by the pill, but he's not cool with condoms and he wanted to penetrate you - so he violated you.

This is all the proof you need that his orgasm occurring exactly as he wants it is more important to him than your health, your bodily autonomy, your human rights, your psychological welfare.

Is his orgasm more important to you than these things?

Are you really happy to be putting in all this effort, taking hormones long-term that you never wanted to take, rationalising being violated - just for the sake of his orgasm?

Tooner · 31/08/2019 16:21

I'm sorry but he's not a good boyfriend. Seems like he deliberately forgot he condoms as he doesn't like using them and was hoping to get away without using one. As for the anal sex attempt....he's only thinking of himself and not you, probably seen it on porn sites and fancies a go of that.

You do not have to have sex on holiday and if he tries to pressurise you then can you just go home? Would that be easy for you to do? Don't feel bad for his family if you do leave, it will be his fault for being, quite frankly a selfish shitty boyfriend.

You deserve much better OP.x

CantRememberHoliday · 31/08/2019 16:27

It’s a UK holiday but a few hours drive away.
I drove in my car with him as he wouldn’t fit in his families car and neither would I. He never came with one on before I started the pill, hence why I started the pill.

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CantRememberHoliday · 31/08/2019 16:32

*family’s
Sorry about my grammar, I’m all over the place

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S1naidSucks · 31/08/2019 16:32

But I think you should let it slide, but speak to him so it doesn’t happen again x

Are you for real? He’s manipulating the OP into having unprotected sex and sticking his dick in her because his brain has no control over his cock and you think she should ‘let it slide’? How about encouraging the OP to raise her bar for unacceptable behaviour a bit higher and supporting her to have a relationship with a man that will respect her?

Tyrotoxicity · 31/08/2019 16:33

He never came with one on before I started the pill, hence why I started the pill.

I guess that answers my question. You're prioritising his orgasm too.

I don't expect you to be able to answer this right now, OP, and I am sorry for the discomfort considering this will cause you, but you really do need to put some serious thought into how and why your priorities have been skewed in this way, and who benefits from that skewing. I'll give you a clue: it's not you.

AmIThough · 31/08/2019 16:37

I can't imagine a virgin couldn't ejaculate the first time he had sex - condom or not condom.

Mummyoflittledragon · 31/08/2019 16:44

Gosh you’ve really been through the mill. I’m glad to see you’re doing better.

He probably doesn’t see it as lack of consent but of-course it was. I think it’s a good thing the condoms were “forgotten”. This will give you some time to evaluate the situation.

You drove your car so don’t forget you can drive it away at any time. Push comes to shove if you leave, his parents can drive him to the bus / train station.

category12 · 31/08/2019 16:58

Did he try anything to retrain himself to come with a condom on? Such as using them during other sexual acts, trying diifferent brands, etc?

CantRememberHoliday · 31/08/2019 17:05

I’ve tried different brands etc, I ordered a pack online that gave a couple of each brand to see if he had a preference but none of them seemed to work. I ordered large ones as he said they felt tight and he finished once with one on but hasn't since.

I took the pill for 5 months, so we’ve had more sex with condoms that without and he only finished once.

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Missmadamefluff · 31/08/2019 17:09

Though I do not like the sound of this guy. Top time for sexual health specialists. Condoms always fit, they stretch great. Put lube on before the condom, it really does help.

However, look online you can get custom fit.

AmIThough · 31/08/2019 17:11

Oh he's one of THOSE? The large condom doesn't fit Confused

OP eventually you'll be with someone who respects you and you'll realise that the large condom definitely would have fit!

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