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Am I over reacting... husband takes put 5 year old.

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2unicorns · 26/08/2019 17:56

So yesterday my husband said there was a family charity fun day in the local pitch where we live. Our housing area is beside it but to gain access to it it's the long way around about a 5-10min walk. So he took the 5 year old over, I stayed at home with youngest because I'd so much washing to catch up on

I thought they would be home teatime.. no sign. They had dinner there.. bbq so it was approaching 7pm/7.30 and I reminded him that she was due a bath and that she had to come home. He reassured me that she was fine and playing a game of cricket with other kids.. 8pm/8.30 im ringing him to tell him to get her home. He starts rejecting my calls between that time. He starts texting me to say he cant talk right now, my alarm bells start ringing. When he did answer his phone in his pocket it sounds like he was inside and there was lots of noise like you would be at a bar.. he hits the phone and I can her him talking clearly sounds like hes been drinking. You know that slurred sound.

So I'm ringing and texting and hes ignoring me. Its pitch black and I know their walk home isnt going to be easy if hes been drinking. Open river etc..

So I phone his dad.. I cant leave the house because the youngest is in bed sleeping.

His dad does with my SIL and she goes in and lifts my daughter and takes her out into the car he follows and comes home. I can see from when he gets home the way he is swaying and slurring he is very drunk.

Am I wrong for being worried, frantic , ringing his dad to come and help. He says there were other kids there he doesnt seem to understand the dangers he put our daughter in. I've already told him it's an arrestable offence as hes drunk and in charge of a child under 7.

Hes saying I'm over reacting, I'm a control freak trying to keep them indoors. I'm at the end of my tether to explain to him anything could have happened to her. I mean she didnt get to bed and asleep until 11pm and she goes back to school tomorrow/Tuesday.

I've never seen my parents drunk when I was younger. She was among smoking adults, I dont smoke. I just dont like the fact she was in an establishment like that even tho it was closed room for the charity function.

He keeps telling me he didn't have much to drink.. that he was finishing up and heading home as his dad turned up but I dont believe him this morning he was apologetic and realised he was wrong and it was irresponsible for him to do that...

Now hes basically saying it was fine and there was no danger that it's me with the problem of being overbearing and over reacting. I just dont know what else to say to him. I've been off with him all day I've not spoken to him only if I've had to.

I'm just so shocked that he doesnt see it as a problem Confused

OP posts:
MamaNewtNewt · 26/08/2019 19:16

Expecting someone not to drink when looking after a five year old is not being controlling at all.

Your behaviour was fine, his seriously wasn't. He was not capable of looking after his child, anything could have happened and he was lucky it didn't.

CloudyWithAChance2 · 26/08/2019 19:16

Getting so drunk you're 'swaying and slurring' and pissing all over the floor while out somewhere in sole charge of a 5-year-old?

Haha why was this key information (falling over, pissing all over the house) left out of the original post?

2unicorns · 26/08/2019 19:16

I know heaven forbid I gave a sh** about my own kid I thought that's what I was meant to do?

Should I have gone to bed and let him stay out to god knows what time, him get arrested and have my kid taken by the social until he sobered up enough to tell them her name and where she lived?

Is that what happens these days? Oh sorry he was just having a good time I didnt think it was a cause for concern.

Hmm
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mamaofboyss · 26/08/2019 19:16

I can see both sides to the story. Sounds like they were just having fun and didn't realise the time. He should have let you know and shouldn't be getting that drunk in front of your child.

EverTheConundrum · 26/08/2019 19:17

I am GOBSMACKED that some posters are trying to suggest OP is somehow in the wrong! He disappeared with their 5 yr old and got pissed off his face! Being drunk in charge of a minor under 7 years old is an arrest-able offence! If Police witnessed this, they'd be referring to Social Services and he'd have been arrested!

MN is truly shocking sometimes

CPParenttoDD1234 · 26/08/2019 19:17

I would not be pleased if my DP did this. It’s not ok to have a child and be drunk around them and it’s AGAINST the law in a licensed premises so you are well within your rights to be cross.

My DP got drunk when I was meant to be working. He was at home and I REFUSED to leave my DD with him because it’s not responsible. Have fun enjoy yourself but bring your child home to be in the safety of there home

loveyoutothemoon · 26/08/2019 19:17

But the OP didn't realise there was drink involved until the youngest child was in bed...

53rdWay · 26/08/2019 19:19

Haha why was this key information (falling over, pissing all over the house) left out of the original post?

From the original post: "I can see from when he gets home the way he is swaying and slurring he is very drunk."

peachgreen · 26/08/2019 19:19

I cannot believe so many posters are okay with a father being drunk in charge of a five year old child. How depressing. I like a drink and I'd happily drink in front of my child but either my husband or I stays sober enough to take care of her, and neither of us would ever get so drunk in front of her that she'd be frightened.

2unicorns · 26/08/2019 19:20

Yes it wasnt until around 8.30/9pm that i knew he had been drinking. It was dark out side so I knew the kids weren't on a bouncy castle that late on the dark lol

OP posts:
MrsHass · 26/08/2019 19:20

We are talking 5 drinks in around a 2-3 hour period as well.

He was pissed on 5 drinks? Was he drinking triples or is he just a bit of a lightweight?

LittlefairyMum · 26/08/2019 19:20

But he didn't disappear
He went on a family day out.

Sounds like if he had come back, he wouldn't have been 'let' back out again, And he knew it.

What a horrible way to have to live.
I'd rather be single than have someone treat me like a teenager.
He's an adult for God sake.
It was obviously only a short distance away too, if the child walked in the first place.

Total drama lama.

category12 · 26/08/2019 19:21

Cloudywithachance2, OP said in the post at the top: "he is swaying and slurring he is very drunk." so the information was NOT left out of her original post.

OP, I would have gone and got my dd myself at about 9, taking the toddler, rather than involving other people.

2unicorns · 26/08/2019 19:21

I didnt say he was falling over, I said he was swaying while standing.

You all wanted to know the difference between drunk and sober. So is that not being drunk if you cant go to the toilet without pissing everywhere, do sober people do that too?

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ThinkWittyThoughts · 26/08/2019 19:22

Bloody hell, what is going on with people on this thread?!

No, OP you are absolutely not being unreasonable. He was completely irresponsible to get drunk whilst the only parent looking after his 5yo daughter.

You have every right to be angry.

Oh, and whoever said this behaviour is fine because the weather is hot... I simply don't understand this viewpoint at all. WTH has the weather got to do with being a responsible parent?!

saveallyourkisses · 26/08/2019 19:22

I think the backlash @2unicorns is getting is unfair. For the record, I have worked in the field of safeguarding and to be drunk in charge of his daughter, regardless of circumstance, is not ok and not something you should 'lighten up' about. We all try our very best to protect our children and it seems bizarre to me that you would allow yourself to get drunk whilst your young child is in your care and therefore not able to fully manage that care.

It's great to relax and have fun in an adult setting like a bar. When your five year old needs you to look after her is not that time.

2unicorns · 26/08/2019 19:23

He hasn't had a drink since December last year so I'd say 5 pints would be well enough to get me drunk in that space of time?

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harriethoyle · 26/08/2019 19:24

Massive drip feed, to justify your behaviour when you were told you're wrong. Fancy that.

Stop being so controlling.

EverTheConundrum · 26/08/2019 19:25

@2unicorns I am 100% behind you on this and wouldn't have done a single thing different to what you did Thanks

Benes · 26/08/2019 19:26

It's not okay for him to be as drunk as you describe but the event itself and the late night are a non-issue.

We went to an event at our local cricket club at the weekend with our 4 year old and it was gone 11 when we got home. We had a few drinks but we weren't drunk and DS had a fab time playing with the other kids and doing kareoke for the first time!

53rdWay · 26/08/2019 19:26

It is increasingly clear that some people think men suffer terribly just from being in relationships and having children. Therefore, any time they behave shittily in those relationships and in their parenting duties, you should 'give the poor man a break'. After all, she expects him to spend every single night not getting plastered when in sole charge of his 5-year-old, how can any mere human be expected to live up to such standards?

EverTheConundrum · 26/08/2019 19:26

@harriethoyle What?!?! Controlling?! How on EARTH was OP controlling? She's a mother who was understandably worried sick about where her child was.

CloudyWithAChance2 · 26/08/2019 19:28

@2unicorns my final thought is just chill out a little bit. He’s had a few drinks, enjoying himself without intending to do any damage, big deal.

loveyoutothemoon · 26/08/2019 19:29

And yes 5 pints is way too much, fair enough if you were both out but you weren't and you were right to get a grandparent involved rather then get your toddler out of bed.

HelloMrDinosaur · 26/08/2019 19:35

Nah I get it.

The late night, the missed bath etc wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if they were out having fun. I wouldn’t mind at all if DH had a couple of pints either.

But drunk with my five year old? Absolutely not acceptable.

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