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Dating Thread 156 - It is hot hot hot

999 replies

midcenturylegs · 22/04/2019 21:36

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

Link to Info on Dating Websites & Apps www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3514717-List-of-Dating-Site-Info-Dating-Thread?watched=1

Link to previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3543468-dating-thread-152-onwards-and-upwards

OP posts:
TooOldForThis67 · 24/04/2019 13:42

peanut - hope you feel better/heal soon, how scary. MrUnsuitable sounds quite suitable if he's prepared to dash over and look after you!

I'm also hooked by Nick O'Teen and due to stop once the duty free run out! Done it before for 9yrs so know I can do it again, one step at a time. MrWow has agreed not to smoke around me and maybe quit himself. I see trying times ahead Hmm

lifegoes · 24/04/2019 13:44

@BendyLikeBeckham oh it's definitely his GF. She's confirmed it

StarryUnicorn · 24/04/2019 13:45

Possibly. But I thought men were programmed to "enjoy the chase" and disrespect women who pursue?

I think the feminism section on the forum would label this as internalised misogyny? Because being prey relegates women to the status of property.

Clearly some men like to pursue, they don't seem to ever give it up though, until they find someone with BPD and they spiral together into black hole of relationship doom...

MrDrummer · 24/04/2019 13:55

@midcenturylegs @DaffoDeffo @kerkyra

So, spoke the barista today about the starbucks-paying-for-car-behind thing. He said it was definitely a "thing" but mainly happens at Christmas time. He said people are initially confused by it, but then he explain that its just a goodwill gift from a stranger and then people are really appreciative. No-one has acted negatively, in his experience. He was perplexed at the idea of it coming across as "stalker-ish". Perhaps they way I described it didn't give it enough context.

emski1972 · 24/04/2019 14:01

Girls please help me out with some counseling here.. Can't eat, can't sleep can't work what the bloody hell is going on with me?
Been split up from exp 2 years and tried my hand at OLD...met someone who I thought was really funny, sexy, lovely and heard from them every morning and day without fail for a month we had a laugh and seemed to get on super well. Knew he was divorced and thought like me was all full of joy and isn't this great etc etc.
So I disappear to the states for a week of work after month 1 and he goes quiet. He then apologises after a couple of days and said I'd have a lot of crap going on with divorce shenanigans will explain when I see you.
Cut to "so tell me what happened?" " my soon to be ex wife has moved back in my house and Ive moved in with my parents shes mad etc etc" and there were a few other things that I wont go into here... OH MY GOD you didn't tell me you were getting ANOTHER divorce and you have only split up 9 months ago ( that's not long is it?!. I said you don't want to get involved do you with all this going on? Yes he said I do but that's up to you..
Anyway after a week of hearing "sorry my life is terrible filling in papers and sorting out mortgages" I finally get a" really sorry I've not been in touch its been awful and I'm in transition and trying to sort my life out papers and appointments etc"
I answered in a nice way ( as in I'm here if you need me yeah.. I KNOW ;-)) haven't heard anything since and had to delete his number as I knew I had to stop being in contact..

But why my friends can I a) not stop thinking about this man ( I was Sooooo happy) b) why do I feel so down about it? (It was the first time Id met anyone since leaving my exh)
Nobody should get involved with someone going through this and I totally get it but gawd I miss this man and how can that be after 6 weeks?

Ive joined a choir and the gym this week in an effort to turn off the noise HELP!

BendyLikeBeckham · 24/04/2019 14:08

@lifegoes I'm so sorry. He must have serious ishoooooos to do that to you and anyone else he has lined up. What a shit.

@StarryUnicorn I agree with your first para but the second...um....???

@Peanuthedz Hope you are ok. Mr Unsuitable sounds, well, a bit suitable! How lovely to be taken care of when you need it.

Peanuthedz · 24/04/2019 14:13

Isn't it funny how the thread seems to go in waves. Like we've just had a smitten wave, a dumping-after-months wave. And over the weekend a lonely wave.

I guess the relationship not working after several months is what has always happened. I always think there's a 3 month stage and then a 6 month stage. It's always been hitting though.

I'm sort of ok! It's clearly a message to tell me to slow down a bit. And with cycling it's always only a matter of time before you have an accident.

Mr Unsuitable hasn't managed to come over yet but he's coming later. That's fine. I need a zzzzz

BendyLikeBeckham · 24/04/2019 14:14

@emski1972 How awful for you. It sounds complicated. He is not in the right place for a new relationship, is he. Maybe he will come back to you when it's all sorted out, but you shouldn't wait around for that. Flowers

Lovemusic33 · 24/04/2019 14:19

emski1972 been in you situation several times, I always seem to fall for the ones that are not ready for a relationship or who have personal problems (ex wives), it does hurt. It’s taken me a while to get over the last person I was dating (Mr SA), I think sometimes knowing someone isn’t available makes you want them even more. Keep yourself busy, it does get easier but it can take time.

lifegoes · 24/04/2019 14:19

It's now really starting to hit me as what's happened. I feel sick to my stomach

TooOldForThis67 · 24/04/2019 14:21

Emski - I second what bendy said. ((Hugs))

DaffoDeffo · 24/04/2019 14:31

lifegoes at least you know now.....it's a shame we all can't find friends of friends to vet our irons because it would be so bloody helpful. It will happen at some stage I bet!

emski I think it's the killing of hope, especially when you've come out of a long, unhappy marriage. You have all these hopes and dreams and then they are dashed very suddenly and you have to go through a mourning period. That's what makes it so hard. There's some great ways to get through break ups resources on the net - lots of distraction and spending time with real friends! I've found some of my shorter break ups worse than my massively long marriage and divorce!

mrdrummer the thing is you wouldn't know if it was received negatively if you didn't see everyone that received it. I wouldn't change your habits and if it's something you enjoy, you should do it and not care what others think! It's not my thing but then again, you are talking to the woman who almost ran out of the bar screaming when a man on a first date bought me a present!

I think it was supercali who asked me about warning signs and how I knew I had to hold something back with my last fella.

  1. He was super good looking in real life, not so much in his photos, but one of the very few who I met and thought bloody hell! - I hate to say out of my league but I found when we went out together, women were really staring at him. He could have picked up anyone he wanted.
  1. He had a history of failed relationships. I know we all do. But I'd only had one where I had kids. He had more than one where he had had dcs (though both were long relationships) which made me think he didn't find it hard to fall in love and fall out of it (though he told me it was the women who ended both - who knows though).
  1. He was very un self aware. I am enormously self aware and could see some of his behaviours that weren't great (and this is critical of me) ie. the way he responded to stress etc. I would never have broken up with him for this btw as we all have our quirks, but it raised a flag as I thought if things started going badly, he would run (and I wasn't wrong) rather than having a pragmatic way to solve relationship issues (i.e. talking things through). I once said to him, if things go wrong, I will start telling you and he said I would do the same but his ACTIONS always showed that that wasn't going to happen.
  1. There were niggles. Little niggles. Lots of promises and I hate to say it, potential future faking. I think he saw how positively I responded to all his talk and that made him do it more often. I think if someone does this with me again - mentions marriage etc. I will just say 'don't be so bloody ridiculous, let's focus on the now'.

I have also thought about a list of mistakes I made if any of you are interested Grin Grin

Nowthefunbegins · 24/04/2019 14:36

I think the thing that is most difficult to get my head around is that I had absolutely no idea he was feeling like he said. I feel a fool for not being aware, I honestly thought we were in it for the long term. Completely bewildered. This thread is really helping though - I’m nearly 52 and feel like I have teenage angst!

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/04/2019 14:38

Oh peanut hope you’re ok. Yes get some rest and feel better Flowers and thank you OF COURSE I am crying over the dumping of Nick O’Teen!! That makes more sense than crying over a twat who has basically strung me along for 3 months and now decided to ghost me. Me and Nick have been on and off for 21 years he is my longest relationship 😁

SimonJT · 24/04/2019 14:41

So, I have my first date tonight at the ripe age of 31!

TooOldForThis67 · 24/04/2019 14:41

I'm reading a lot of similar stories about men ending it due to personal complications. Just to clarify, I ended it with MrWow for these reasons rather than let it fizzle out, him end it etc. I also wasn't in a great place myself although emotionally more ready to move on from my STBX than he was. He was/is such a nice bloke and I cried my heart out telling him.

I honestly never thought he'd come back to me and keeping in contact on and off, after a few months. was genuinely on a friends basis. No expectations of rekindling. We had both discussed a FWB situation but agreed that it wouldn't work as we'd both had feelings for each other. Had, being the key word. Neither of us had the guts to say more.

What I'm trying to say is that we've spent a decent amount of time apart and our lives/complications have moved on to a better place. None of this was expected, it was just the right time.

Sorry for going on, think I've been sniffing his t'shirt too much today!

emski1972 · 24/04/2019 14:41

Thanks girls..I've just been so surprised at how it's hit me even though I know its for the best ( I mean nobody wants to get into all that mess with someone and end up being a counsellor when you think you are in the throws of a romance) and yes DaffoDeffo think you are right I don't remember feeling this bad after EXP moved out.
Its bizaare. I've even started smoking and contemplating life love and the god damn universe even the evenings. Madness!
When I read some of the others posts and also threads in relationships and what others are going through its so insignificant that I feel indulgent but I just cant seem to shake it off.

TooOldForThis67 · 24/04/2019 14:44

@SimonJT - first date ever? No relationships previously?

SimonJT · 24/04/2019 14:46

@TooOldForThis67

Yes, first date ever! No, two previous relationships, but I have never been on an actual date before, it’s normally just tipsy hookups etc.

Currently watching first dates to get some tips!

MrDrummer · 24/04/2019 14:50

@DaffoDeffo

I appreciate what you are saying and I hadn't thought of it, which is why I asked him directly how it has been received in the past. It's true to say that we don't know anybody's back-story, so I suppose innocent things can easily be quite triggering. I think someone who brings a gift on a first date has gotten their dating tips from a romcom. Tbf we are all making it up as we go along.

TooOldForThis67 · 24/04/2019 14:51

@SimonJT - love that programme! Good luck tonight and don't forget to update us later.
@DaffoDeffo - It's good to write it down, it clarifies things in your head. Please feel free to share what mistakes you made as I bet we've all been there and need a reminder.

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/04/2019 14:56

Sorry to everyone who is going through crap FlowersWine for all of us.

tooold I am so happy for you and will have fingers and toes crossed that you remain on the smitten bench. I have followed your stories for months now and you have had your share of crap and always been so supportive

supercali77 · 24/04/2019 14:59

@DaffoDeffo Thanks for sharing that Daffo....It's interesting because the gut just seems to 'know' but you can't always tell why when you're in the midst of it right?. The reason I asked is because i've been holding a bit back myself. One thing that stands out is the relationship history.....It seems cynical to assume a person can't change but once we're all in our late 30s/40s/50s it seems less easy to believe their past is a series of unfortunate relationships and not a pattern of behaviours

@emski1972 I actually think it's harder because you don't get past the stage of honeymoon/idealising/dreaming. Basically we don't see their very human flaws in the beginning. So it's like losing a potentially 'perfect' person for you, when reality is - people are just people. All of them come with a ton of baggage and irritations.

@coldlocation That sounds rough as all hell and i'm really sorry to hear this happened. :(

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 24/04/2019 15:00

So Mr Tall has just messaged me out of the blue! To recap he was great, we had a brilliant first date but then I felt a bit love bombed and told him it was a bit much. He then basically ghosted me, then came back later but said I had ghosted him he thought I had blocked him. I guardedly started talking again but it fizzled as I was more interested in Mr Big. I really liked him when we met should I give it another shot? Might help me pull myself out of my wallowing??? (6.5 gorgeous gingery beard)

TooOldForThis67 · 24/04/2019 15:07

Marlb - yes absolutely.