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Dating thread 151: We are the prize...

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30somethingandsingle · 18/03/2019 17:50

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

Link to Info on Dating Websites & Apps https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3514717-List-of-Dating-Site-Info-Dating-Thread?watched=1

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Crustaceans · 26/03/2019 10:58

You are correct on both counts @shitwithsugaron.

It is so hard not to almost be pathetically grateful that anyone shows any interest though. I remember being genuinely amazed that MrSG (who is very good looking, if short, but I didn’t know that til I met him) was interested in me. But actually, in hindsight, I wonder if he might (a) have been amazed that I was interested in him and (b) been much more likely to struggle on OLD due to his complicated life situation than I had realised. After meeting me one of his his good friends did tell him that he was very lucky to have me. 😆

OLD definitely is an interviewing process. Much more so than ‘ordinary’ dating because it’s all about the dating. Meeting someone in real life offers a different range if possible outcomes. But everyone (well other than the ego boosters) goes into OLD looking to for a relationship (and/or sex). So it’s always going to be different.

It is hard though, especially as lots of people are looking for different things using the same methods. And I think lots of us go into it not really understanding what we want. Personally I wasn’t sure. I think I’ve realised that I am basically built for Proper Relationships. I’m no good at (or even interested in) casual things, or just sex, etc. I like being in a LTR and it’s what I’m good at.

But, if I were looking to date again, I’m not sure how I’d communicate that without sounding weirdly intense and hard work. Because even to me (who is crap at casual), ‘I am looking for someone to spend the rest of my life with’ sounds way, way too much. Even ‘I’m looking for a LTR’ sounds like a big statement to people during the mutual interview process.

All of which means that it’s difficult for anyone to say clearly, and so hard to find people who you might actually like (and who might actually like you) who want what you want. I guess that’s why people find FAB refreshing; it’s full of people looking for sex so there’s less ambiguity.

unique1986 · 26/03/2019 11:01

@wishywashy6

How long were you using dating sites, before you met your guy?
You might have already said but I missed it.
Just find it interesting how some can be online for years, others just a few months.

Eesha · 26/03/2019 11:02

@Crustaceans your words totally resonate! I too am built for LTR but how to put that across without sounding too much. I also can't do casual sex etc.

shitwithsugaron · 26/03/2019 11:08

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Man4allseasons · 26/03/2019 11:28

I don't think there is anything wrong with casual / fwb / fb relationships as long as everyone involved is on the same page.

No reason not to sample the buffet whilst deciding on your main meal! Grin

wishywashy6 · 26/03/2019 11:30

@unique1986 about 6 months I think?

I think I'm also best in a LTR although at the time I don't think I'd allow myself to admit that's what I was ultimately looking for, I tried to approach it with the attitude of just meeting new people and letting it (if anything!) happen naturally.
In my wild and crazy youth I could do the whole no-strings-sex thing but now I'd rather go DIY as I find it really boring unless I have a proper connection with someone. Then again I'm not denying if some hot Tom Hardy lookalike wanted one night of unbridled passion that I'd have probably said yes Grin
Before joining the sites I'd got myself in a place where I was really happy single and I genuinely never expected to actually meet anyone on there that I actually liked so had zero expectations from it.
I enjoyed the weirdos along with the decent guys - it was just all a new and amusing experience for me and I never felt disheartened by a 'bad' date as I figured it was all just part of my path to where I'm meant to be - (and if that path lead to a bedsit with 27 cats then so be it!)
I guess it's maybe pot luck. Some people play the lottery for years and never win a penny others hit the jackpot with their first ticket 🤷🏼‍♀️

Scorpvenus1 · 26/03/2019 11:33

Dating thread rules: Updated 😊 lol

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating. (this one stays lol)
  2. Do not meet at your house or let them pick you up/drop you off
  3. Do not give full names so they can stalk you and make false opinions of you on Facebook.
  4. It's all definitely BS until it actually happens.
  5. Do not tell them where you work – Be vague
  6. Ghosting and benching is the norm.
  7. If it's a bad date after number 2 flush and move on.
  8. Most people are dating on rotation, don’t put all eggs in basket.
  9. Do not meet a man who keeps asking if your going to do things for him up front.
10.If they want sex within the 3 date rule, flush and repeat 😃

12 Years on and off the Online dating world. Cant confess date numbers but it is a lot 😃

Ive had every game tried on me and if anyone needs genuine advice then PM me. Ive found the one now and I didn't waste time with it. INFJ if anyone knows what that is. :D

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking · 26/03/2019 11:37

shitwithsugaron I'm another one who agrees to go on dates just because they ask and I think 'well, maybe they might be better in person'.
But they never are. And while I quite enjoy getting out of the house and meeting new people, it's also knocking my self esteem quite badly because I can't seem to attract any one that I like.

I'm now wondering whether I should stop OLD completely. Because if I keep going and wait the right person then I feel I'll be waiting forever.

I've been doing OLD for about two and half years and only met 2 men that I liked enough to see again. So I end up in a cycle of thinking I'm being too fussy and end up meeting men that I don't get on with.

It's difficult sometimes to know if you should consider men outside your 'normal' preferences or stick to what you want and end up with no dates.

Howlingatthesun · 26/03/2019 11:40

I’ve often wondered what peoples swipe/message stats are.
When i was on fab, or similar once i’d filtered out the unstuitables was probably 1 in 8. On say tinder and others probably 1 in 15 but seemed to go in batches. One week might measages loads and then no one for weeks.

Just had a coffee with Ms LTS. Told her my age which she seem genuinely surprised at but thankfully not too cross about. She is happy to meet up casually so i guess we have a semi exclusive FWB arrangement - she can do as she pleases and i’m not looking for anyone else - she is very attractive and we are sexually compatible, so why put myself through the mangle!

Sods laws though, if she was 10 years older with kids she’d be perfect. Ho hum!!!

midcenturylegs · 26/03/2019 11:47

@Scorpvenus1 I never actually knew that "benching" was a "thing" until recently. @MyOldBrainStoppedWorking a friend of mine told me to join meet-ups for hiking etc (with a pub lunch in the middle!). I thought I might try that - in the summer... haha. That's a good way to meet new people with no pressure..

Has anyone tried Happn? I signed up.. it's weird. Opened it up at the protest march on Saturday haha. A lot of the same people were crossing my path on multiple occasions because we were in a slow shuffle! Have a couple of local guys messaging me though, one who I've seen on my train Hmm

Ant330 · 26/03/2019 11:50

I'm like many above, I want a relationship. Casual sex does nothing for me so I won't pursue it.

I'm quite clear with people I'm messaging that I don't want a ONS or a FWB, I want to take it one step at a time but ultimately I'm looking for a relationship.

Ms7 has gone very quiet since I said that last night Grin but that's fine, because if she's looking for those things then there's no point in pursuing anything.

MsBath Legs and Oz say they're looking for the same, time will tell.

The comments about 'interviewing' are very useful, and I will consider some conversation topics rather than just winging it :)

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 26/03/2019 11:54

So I am supposed to be going to Mr Bigs tonight for a sleepover.

We have met once and dtd and he stayed at mine. I like him and we message every day and have been for nearly 2 months. I was looking for a FWB and I think that is what we are, we are both on fab and share dating stories etc. We are both aware the other is multi dating and having sex with others.

When we met the first time I had already had a few drinks to calm me. We met in a pub then back to mine. It was great. No awkwardness as both a bit drunk and had been messaging loads

Thing is we could only ever see each other once a month due to other commitments so even though I do like him I know it couldn’t be anything more.

It just seems odd that I am planning to drive an hour to his house for an arranged sleepover BUT I have commitments in his city tomorrow morn so it makes sense to do so.

Argh confusing myself!!! Shall I just bloody go??

MyOldBrainStoppedWorking · 26/03/2019 11:54

midcenturylegs Meetup is great. I'm in a couple of groups already so I don't want to join any more.
However, the people in my Meetups groups are mostly younger than me so I'm very unlikely to meet a future date there.

Howlingatthesun why didn't she know your age?

I've thought about paying to hide my age on Tinder to see if that helps.

Ant330 · 26/03/2019 12:01

Marlboro why not? You're going that way anyway.

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 26/03/2019 12:04

Thanks Ant I am but could just drive their in morning. I don’t know I really want to see him and have sex with him again just seems odd to turn up with an overnight bag at someone’s house on a Tuesday with no wooing Confused

shitwithsugaron · 26/03/2019 12:05

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Howlingatthesun · 26/03/2019 12:06

Personallyi found fwb, esp non monogamous ones never really worked for me. I am not sexually jelous but I just found i was completely nonplussed and would think, bugger this i’d rather go wind surfing.

Ms lts is a bit different as i like her but it can never go further.

HairyArsedMan · 26/03/2019 12:08

I agree with Crustacean that it seems like a big burden to place on people at the outset to say you're looking for the long term. Am I too vague in saying 'looking to create something meaningful' to try to lessen the weight?

MyOld Very similar experience here actually and I was/am in a similar position of abandoning the OLD ship. Will give it one last try on Bumble with all the profile advice in place.

Changing the subject. Age ranges. Are these hard boundaries for most ? If you're contacted by someone who's a couple of years younger/older than you but outside your range, is your response 'can you not read!' or is it case of taking each one on their other merits ?

Howlingatthesun · 26/03/2019 12:10

Myold, we met in rl in a bar. She thought i was very early 40’s. I didnt didnt disabuse her of this Blush she was only out by 8 years so not the end of the world!

shitwithsugaron · 26/03/2019 12:12

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Marlboroandmalbec34 · 26/03/2019 12:14

howling I think ideally I am looking for a monogamous FWB. MrBig couldn’t be that for various reasons but he is the only guy I have really connected with

wishywashy6 · 26/03/2019 12:16

@MyOldBrainStoppedWorking I will say didn't have a set list of things I wanted/ didn't want. I tried to go more by what I 'felt' rather than what boxes they ticked. As most on here know the guy I have ended up with is 26 (was 25 at the time) so 10 years younger than me and has no kids of his own (I have 2 school aged kids) which on paper would have been a no. My sensible head said a guy my own age with similar aged kids would be 'best' for me.
He was the most refreshing guy to talk to though so I went into it with 'oh well I might just make a new mate out of this' with him - I was up front about this with him too which he was fine with but as things turned out we've ended up in a relationship.... hopefully a long term one! 😆

Ant330 · 26/03/2019 12:24

Marlboro only you can answer whether you want to see him or not, however I wouldn't worry about the turning up with a bag. As you said you've already dtd and been honest that you're seeing other people. So there's no expectations of anything else from either of you.
Go and have an enjoyable stopover, plus you get to break up the round trip Grin

Man4allseasons · 26/03/2019 12:26

Having been stuck in a sexless, passionless marriage for 10 years, and then spending two sorting myself out, I'm more than happy to have a FB / FWB relationship Blush

I'm not saying a LTR is out of the question, it's just I never sowed wild oats as a kid, and this may be my last chance!! Grin As someone earlier said, you are a long time dead...

Ant330 · 26/03/2019 12:30

Hairy I hadn't thought about it setting too much pressure/burden, thought it was best to be honest but maybe you're right. I might tone down my reply a bit.

I wish I enjoyed NSA sex, be a damn sight simpler!

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