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I hit my husband - not proud

217 replies

Twirliegig · 06/01/2019 07:10

I’ve currently got a 2 yr old and a 3 month old and really struggling. The baby has reflux so is very sicky and cluster feeds for about 2 hrs each night and wakes up every 2/3 hours til about 4am then every hour. The toddler also wakes up at night so we are exhausted but DH normally gets into toddlers bed and they both sleep there for the night.
DH is supportive in that he’s very hands on with kids which I really appreciate as I couldn’t do it without him and he probably does more than his fair share. On the emotional side I don’t feel supported- I’ve been feeling very down and not coping well with the baby as she doesn’t sleep in the day unless she’s in the sling and she cries most of the day- I don’t like the newborn phase and hoping it will get better with time. Whenever I’ve expressed how I’m feeling DH gets very defensive and somehow it ends in an argument- most of the time I’m not sure what about? I think we’re both tired and stressed.
Last night he went out and said he’d be back by 11 as that’s when the baby normally wakes to feed and toddler often wakes at the same time. He wAsnt back but i managed to feed and settle baby so just texted him to ask for an eta. He said half an hour- fine. It took a while to burp and settle baby so text him again but didn’t deliver so worried a bit. Then after another half hour toddler wakes up inconsolable that it’s me coming to him and not dad, so texted DH, gone back to friends house, back soon- fine. Toddler not settling so tried calling DH and it hangs up. We have each other on ‘find your friends’ app (for convenience, no issues with trust) and it says he’s in a park half an hour away?? So I start to panic and think he’s either gone to get drugs (out of character) or been attacked. I know I’m obviously OTT here but with sleep deprivation my mind was going crazy and I was shaking with panic and not knowing what to say to toddler about where he is.
He eventually comes home (it’s only 2.5 hours later than planned so I know it’s not that bad) and I ask what happens, he’s absolutely wasted drunk and just defensively says he’s going to bed. I’m still shaking with panic and I grabbed him by his shirt and shoved him. I know I need to control my anger and I regret being physical but I was so upset. I’ll obviously apologise but don’t know how to move on from this? Baby has been awake since about 4, I haven’t had any proper sleep since 11, just feel miserable right now.

OP posts:
TheBigBangRocks · 06/01/2019 17:35

grabbed him by his shirt and shoved him

If someone did that to me at work or in the street, the police would arrest them for assault. It's no different because it's a married couple.

The double standards are awful. If a woman posted she worked full time, did more than her share of the house and children and had gone out for a night during which her husband had called her several times and tracked her phone then shoved her for coming home later than she said, I suspect the replies would have been to call the police, kick him out and put measures in place to protect the children.

YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 17:50

Bigbang

You are so right.

TotesEmoshTerri · 06/01/2019 17:57

You should be treated as harshly as a man if he said he hit his wife.

Absolute bloody nonsense Angry OP was at the end of her tether after problems with the children and her terrible partner turned up hours late despite frequent messages. The physical contact was minor and should be a wake up call to the careless sod.

This situation is as much "domestic abuse" as slapping a rude man is as bad as being punched in the face by the same man.. that is, it's not.

Banana1979 · 06/01/2019 18:26

@mountaingoat5 whatever..get a life if you think coming home to your partner and kids steaming drunk is ok
Btw because of work policy it is mandatory to report. Repeat- mandatory. I work within social services environment so unfortunately id have to. Even if i didn't want to and if he keeps doing this someone else may report them. Binge drinking is a thing..ive treated hundreds for it amd there is no harm talking to someone about your inability ro handle alcohol or the reasons behind drinking so much.

Pissedoffdotcom · 06/01/2019 18:31

Yikes how many parents must be in trouble for a pissed up night out 🙄

Banana1979 · 06/01/2019 18:31

@pissedoffdotcom not once did u post a supportive response to OP u berated her and made her out to be an abuser
I feel sad for people like who who should NOT be on these forums where vulnerable people can come into contact with you. Same @boysandbuses
Luckily the majority of posts here are supportive to OP. You may cause vulnerable people real harm . Maybe you are unhappy in real life and hate to hear messages of support for others

YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 18:34

I think her husband should post from his POV, maybe we could give him some support.

Banana1979 · 06/01/2019 18:34

Im not really sure where people are getting info suggesting OP has a mental health problem. She doesn't say that

YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 18:35

Therefore...even less reason to excise her behaviour. She resorts to violence in times of stress, stop excusing it.

Pissedoffdotcom · 06/01/2019 18:37

Bananafish1979 i didn't realise i was expected to support people who felt it okay to physically assault someone? Where does it say that in the rules? And if you read my original comment i suggested OP go to her GP & ask about PND.

You have no idea about my life 😂 but having been in a DV situation which started with a shove...having had PND rather severely...I don't condone violence & I get sick of seeing women playing it down because a woman has done it.

You want to sugar coat things? Go ahead, that's your right. But I will not sit & go 'there there it's okay you're sorry that makes it better' - so stick your condascending comments elsewhere

MountainGoat5 · 06/01/2019 18:40

@mountaingoat5 whatever..get a life if you think coming home to your partner and kids steaming drunk is ok

I don't drink really, I share a cider with dinner with my DP sometimes, other times have a £5 bottle of wine throughout a week, "getting drunk" isn't that much of an issue as I don't like the feeling, but no I don't think being really drunk once every now and again is an issue - if he was going to have sole care of a child to deal with when he got back it's another issue entirely. People are allowed a break.

Pissedoffdotcom · 06/01/2019 18:46

OP admitted her DP does 'more than his fair share' so he isn't abandoning her to go out drinking every night. Coming home pissed once a month isn't exactly shocking. The lack of communication would be more of an issue. And OP has also stated she chooses not to go out!

Boysandbuses · 06/01/2019 18:50

Banana1979 so not going to apologise for saying I compared op to a rapist?

Or acknowledge that your posts are full of shit and misinformation. Such as the op has no support? Or that SS would be interested in a parent getting drunk when not in some charge of the kids?

No? Its just easier to throw round insults and add loads of information into the OP to make sure you can blame a man for violence against him.

SlightlyMisplacedSingleDad · 06/01/2019 20:06

I've largely disconnected from this thread - as a man who was on the receiving end of domestic violence and abuse from my ex-wife, the sexist comments on here from women who immediately rush to defend a woman who assaults her partner are just a little too predictable. But I have to say @TotesEmoshTerri that your comments are just beyond the pale.

You seriously believe that being assaulted by his partner "should be a wake up call" to this man?

This man, who the OP herself said does more than his fair share around the house and with the children.

This man whose only 'offence' was to be later home than he said he would be.

You actually believe that this justifies assaulting him? Not just that, but that he should learn a lesson from it?

I guess women who are assaulted by controlling and violent partners should also learn their lesson? Know their place? Be home when they're told? Not do anything outside the home?

This behaviour is how it starts. One partner feels they have the right to take out their frustrations on the other. And they accept it. Because it wasn't that bad - I wasn't really hurt - and it's a one off. Right? And I was late back, so it was probably my fault. Right? I should probably learn a lesson.

And then it happens again. And you know it's your fault, because it was last time. Any maybe it hurts a bit more this time. But you're a man. You can't be a victim of domestic abuse, right? She's just tired. Struggling. At the end of her tether. You need to do more to help her. That'll make things better. Right?

Until it doesn't. But you probably deserved it, anyway. And you're only a man.

There's a very short message that I want to give you on behalf of all victims of domestic violence when you tell us it's our fault, @TotesEmoshTerri. But I won't. Because I'm a gentleman. And a grown up. And so I know that abusive behaviour is wrong. Always. Even if the recipient has a penis.

user1457017537 · 06/01/2019 20:12

YepIchangeditagain I completely agree with you. No one should ever lay their hands on their partner, man or woman. Op you should be able to manage both children for one night, your partner was home about 1.00 am.

Twirliegig · 06/01/2019 20:19

My husband does not think there is any domestic abuse or violence issue here.
I haven’t once said this is ok but if it were the other way round it would be worse. My post was about how awful I felt for doing it. One person said I was looking for a good excuse, another person compared the victim blaming to tape victims Ffs!
To clarify, I meant to say nor would I want to go out as I’m so tired! Of course I’d like a night off!
Also lots of people have told me I should be able to cope- yes I bloody well know I should, I’ve admitted I’m struggling. Anyway, DH and I have been talking today, he’s massively hungover but he’s not scared of me.
Thanks to the posters who gave advice and supportive words re pnd- I do think this might be playing a part in my inability to cope and will see a doctor.

OP posts:
YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 20:21

slightly misplaced

On your behalf, because you're being far too polite-

Go fuck yourself Terri- I hope you're totes emosh now.

YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 20:22

I haven’t once said this is ok but if it were the other way round it would be worse. *

You actually just thought about that, typed it and posted?

Twirliegig · 06/01/2019 20:24

What??

OP posts:
YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 20:25

Why would it be worse the other way round?

Twirliegig · 06/01/2019 20:25

It wouldn’t be- that’s exactly what I just said?

OP posts:
YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 20:26

Please re read that last long post of yours

TotesEmoshTerri · 06/01/2019 20:26

OP shoving her husband once because he was being a total dick is nothing like actual domestic abuse and as a feminist I find it offensive to conflate the two tbh

YepImafraidIchangeditagain · 06/01/2019 20:28

How do you think a lot of DV starts against women? Control, checking up, shoving and verbal aggression....

Exactly what the OP describes.

SlightlyMisplacedSingleDad · 06/01/2019 20:29

So, you're in favour of women being pushed around by their husbands if they're late home as well Terri?

I'm also a feminist. And there's a pretty clear distinction between feminism and misandry. You, I would suggest, are the latter.

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