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'Flirty' texts to my partner - yes/no?

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katy78 · 30/11/2018 11:22

Hi, I recently wrote this post yesterday about not knowing what to do about my boyfriend wanting to continue cycling with a woman I perceived interested in him (due to her texts) and me wanting him to stop: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3437896-Clash-of-boundaries-how-to-proceed

Some of you wanted to know what the texts said so I thought I would post to ask your opinions. I didn't mention last time that my partner is 32 and this woman is single and 50. However, while that may change some of your views, I should mention my partner has had sexual relations with a 50 year old before when he was 25. Please also bare in mind this is a brand new friendship they hardly know each other at work as they work in different departments.

So they went on a time trial (first cycle ever together). Afterwards:

Woman: Hey, thanks for cheering up my miserable mood last night. You're a good un! x
Partner: No problem, thanks for inviting me. I enjoyed it myself despite struggling to keep up. I've checked my calandar and I'm free on the 9th September x
Woman: He he! Good! Excellent news, you'll love this route.
My partner did not reply

Two days later
Woman: Hey, went for a swim last night - first time since about May :o lung capacity is terrible! More swims required x
My partner did not reply

9th September after their first cycle 1:1 that lasted 6 hours
Woman: Ta for today, it was fun! x
My partner: Yeah I enjoyed it myself too, looking forward to going out again
Woman: Absolutely me too. Proper overfilled my bath and nearly flooded the house! I haven't done any work but it's Sunday, tomorrow is workday x
My partner did not reply.

They scheduled to cycle 1:1 5 days later. On the day:
My partner: Shall we rearrange today? Forecast isn't great.
Woman: I know - its not great in the rain is it? We'll do it one day next week instead :-) have a good weekend in (city family lives in)
My partner did not reply.
An hour later woman texts again: Blood weather! I was looking forward to seeing you :-/ x
My partner phones me and reads that text out to me as he thinks it's strange. I say its strange and I am surprised (I had never thought anything of this woman until this phone call). My partner downplays it.
5 hours later my partner texts back: I know I was looking forward to it, we could do a weekday next week after I finish work? although I can't do Wednesday x
Woman: Tuesday, weather permitting? x
My partner: Yes sounds good, shall I get to yours straight from work at about 5.30pm?
Woman: Yes definitely, I shall be ready for you x
My partner doesn't reply
Woman texts again: Did you have a good journey over to (city family lives in)?
My partner: Yes good thanks there wasn't too much traffic, how was your away day?
Woman: send three mundane texts about her away day
My partner does not reply

OP posts:
Mouseville65 · 02/12/2018 14:27

The bath text was on the day the ride was cancelled tho so no aching muscles

MaryJenson · 02/12/2018 15:10

The bath text was on the day the ride was cancelled tho so no aching muscles

No it wasn’t. It was after they’d been cycling

MaryJenson · 02/12/2018 15:11

A 6 hour ride

KarenWhite29 · 02/12/2018 15:20

Time isn't unusual for a long ride, not at all

MaryJenson · 02/12/2018 15:30

I know.
I ride for 6 hours and would have a bath after

MistressDeeCee · 02/12/2018 15:54

Of course she's flirting. I can never understand how some people simply don't get nuance's and can't see that it doesn't have to be flirty/sexy words, it's the fact she wants to be in his mind constantly + is sitting there thinking off reasons to text him.

Cheeky wretches, both of them. If he wanted it to stop he'd politely dissuade her and not be in her company.. As it is, it's his friend they share a hobby so he won't see your point.

I bet he'd see the point at the speed of light were it you texting back and forth with some guy you shared a hobby with

SantaClauseMightWork · 02/12/2018 16:01

Only read the OP. What’s wrong with those texts? It is someone being friendly and chatty. Don’t see anything wrong with it. Unless he has a backstory about the time they were together, I wouldn’t think twice.

hammeringinmyhead · 02/12/2018 16:56

Ha! This is is no way innocent. How was your journey to x place? She doesn't care, she's just desperate to have a reason to text and to be all "Look how much I hang on your every word of detail about your life!"

ScreamingValenta · 02/12/2018 17:01

it's the fact she wants to be in his mind constantly

Constantly? She's texted him on 4 occasions since 9 September.

Livingoncake · 02/12/2018 17:53

I was cringing while reading her texts. They come across as a bit desperate and embarrassing to me.

Ask your DH to stop putting kisses at the end of his texts. She may be taking this as encouragement. Aside from that, it seems he’s being open with you about this, so try to treat him with the trust he deserves. Try being amused by her, rather than annoyed - that might help you to feel more secure.

Margelovesjim · 02/12/2018 18:40

That they are colleagues too is playing with fire

Zulor · 03/12/2018 03:46

She is flirting with him.

Yoyooyo · 07/12/2018 20:44

What happened??

BatshitCrazyWoman · 08/12/2018 10:09

I agree with PPs about the references to baths and swimming - she does spind to be putting the feelers out.

What would your DH think if you were sending messages like this to a man you did an all-day activity like cycling with? Or if a man sent messages like that to you? Do you have a hobby that takes big chunks of your leisure time? That you do in a one-on-one way with a man? Not that you shouldn't do that, but I'm interested to know what he'd think if the boot was on the other foot...

Beaverhausen · 08/12/2018 10:18

She is definitely flirting. No need to text a married man other than scheduling bike rides.

But your husband is definitely not leading her on, unfortunately most men are clueless when being flirted with.

But just tell him to be prepared for her to push her luck.

MadameGazelleIsMyHomegirl · 08/12/2018 10:24

She’s being friendly that’s all. For gods sake why can’t a woman want to be friends with a man she has a mutual hobby with? I’m sure you’d have no problem with her sending those exact words to a female contact. Get a grip and stop worrying.

Robin2323 · 08/12/2018 11:09

PLEASE get him to stop this now.
I thought I was being the cool wife letting dp chat to a female friend.
Next minute she's in love with him and planning a life with him.
Men can be very oblivious to the working of a woman's mind.
At best she won't find an available man while she's got her hopes pinned on dp.

I'm 50 plus and this is a subtle but predatory female at work.

Personally I d be meeting her.

It true dp thinks it's all above board.

But men can fall pray to their egos.
And the need to protect.

She is after him.

Tell him to find a male cycling buddy as this woman FANCYS him.

I had a male friend who i text.
After awhile the texts became.
' I like talking to you'
'Look forward to seeing you'
' miss you'

No encouragement from me , other than normal friendship.

If my husband had seen them what would he think?

I nipped it on he bud.

Renarde1975 · 08/12/2018 15:58

I found this one really, really intriguing as on first glance, there could be at least three things going on here. I made my mind up and then read the first thread and had my doubts answered. Sorry OP but you are not going to like what I think is happening.

Just based on this OP, OP...

The woman's messages to DP are an attempt at very careful, near safe, levels of flirting but as a PP said and I agree; it's boundary testing. Now why should someone want to do that?

Equally, DP's reaction is off as well. If he genuinely believed that this woman wasn't flirting with him, why show the messages in the first place? If he did believe it then it makes much more sense to show and share with his partner as part of a good relationship. So he's showing flirtatious messages to his partner but saying he doesn't think they are, he thinks they are weird. On this point he is correct, they are weird.

So second question, why did he show OP in the first place because neither explanation makes sense, unless he's doing it for another, yet undiscovered reason.

Finally the lack of reaction from DP. This is very telling in what I think is going on. He's drawing her in. He's baiting the hook much in the same way we all go crazy over text message response times, he is deliberately not answering to keep her messaging him. Cunning fox. And yes, the 'x' is INCREDIBLY telling, from both parties. As other PP's have picked up on.

So, what might have happened? In my opinion, DP is self aware; he knows what he's doing. I'd even go so far as to say that the whole scenario has been deliberated engineered in order to draw narcissistic supply from the OP. And of course the female cyclist too.

You see, the problem with the other female is her sending flirty messages to a partnered man. It's not on. Seeing the actual texts from her show little or no empathic reaction, she just wants sex. And of course she would because she is a narc herself, a somatic.

Unfortunately and I can understand how it might have happened, the female is not aware (usually are not) and because an aware narc is far better at hiding those nasty traits and also mirroring back false empathic ones, she's mistook him for an Empath and thinks she can manipulate him for her own supply. Case of the hunter becoming the hunted. Who is predator and who is prey?

In this case the predator is the DP. The messages are being used to triangulate you with the OW. In that regard, OP, don't worry about it. See it for what it is. I doubt very much indeed if the relationship is physical or indeed might become that in future. But OP, that is not necessarily a good thing in your case because now you are in a bond with an aware narcissist.

I know the above is clinical but honestly, if a poster asks for a hand hold; they get one. If they ask a question then I will answer.

I'm sorry OP Flowers you DO deserve better than this.

CollyWombles · 08/12/2018 16:08

Honestly I'd probably be planning her ultimate demise but that's because I'm emotionally immature and a little unhinged 😁

The only thing a little weird is that she said she was looking forward to seeing him. And perhaps she was in a platonic sense. Does she have many friends? The fact that your DH contacted you about that message and he knows her suggests he thought it was a bit odd too. I don't think there is anything in it, but it can't do any harm for your DH just to be mindful of how he replies etc in case she gets the wrong idea. Just now take it as a compliment thasr your DH is lovely and people like spending time with him, whilst keeping an eye on things too.

PsychedelicSheep · 09/12/2018 00:31

Renarde what are you going on about? Confused a few clumsy attempts at flirting and how everyone has a personality disorder? Fucks sake, this place! Hmm

Alaaya · 09/12/2018 11:19

I think Renarde wins the MN prize for Most Spurious Armchair Psychiatric Diagnosis of 2018 in the face of some stiff competition.

This place must make psychiatrists despair.

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