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Telling his wife as a parting Shot

209 replies

HennaTattoo · 29/04/2018 08:19

If you were the wife, would you want to know about your husbands infidelity? To be told by his OW? My friend has been having an affair for a couple of years now. I've kept out of it ( not my circus if you get the drift). She's finally decided after waiting for him to make good on his promises to her that it's never going to happen. He said that it's not the right time, can't hurt his family etc which is all the usual script. Theyre never going to be together. She told me last night that she's had enough and basically wants her life to be more than the crumbs he's giving her.
I agreed she was doing the right thing and had seen sense. ( thought she never should have done it in the first place but hey ho).Anyway, she thinks his wife should know. She wants to meet her. Apparently his wife thinks he's everything marvellous and my friend wants to set her straight with a bucketful of evidence of the cheating he's done. I told her to walk away and not do it. But then I've no idea really. I think I'd want to know if it was me.

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happypoobum · 29/04/2018 09:48

I agree with PP - although she is doing it out of spite, I think the wife should know.

Benandhollysmum · 29/04/2018 09:48

PP, never noticed the original poster type that,
How do you know the wife is over reliant of hubby and needy and does nothing?
Sounds like gaslighting to me- dangerous man, look at a fact here if she was over reliant aka needy, then he would be with her 24/7..so when did he have time to meet the mistress? Sounds like hubbys a liar..so mistress best watch herself because if he could tell porkies about the wife, imagine the belters he will tell about your friend.

DharmaInitiativeLady · 29/04/2018 09:50

Having been on the other side of this, I was and still am to this day very grateful to the OW for telling me everything after it had ended. I would NEVER have known otherwise, and that is a truly horrifying thought. Obviously I also have a lot of bad feeling for her too, but overall I am so very glad that I found out so that I can make informed decisions about my life.

HennaTattoo · 29/04/2018 09:50

Maybe I should have come down harder on her from the start and distanced myself from the friendship, as some of you have said, how could you respect someone who's done this? I feel like I should have done more. I want her to walk away tbh.

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Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 29/04/2018 09:52

I suspect I would be happier living on a lie than having my life destroyed!

I don't see that anyone is going to be made happier by OP's friend telling. If it was just the husband I'd say crack on, but the wife is the one whose life will be ruined.

hellsbellsmelons · 29/04/2018 09:54

I always say 'yes'.
She deserves to know what a scumbag she is married to.
But NOT in these circumstances.
Her motives are all wrong.
And she will shoot the messenger!!!

Jellylover · 29/04/2018 09:55

I agree with sugar pie, give him an ultimatum to tell his wife otherwise she will.

coffeeX10 · 29/04/2018 09:55

She’s doing it to ruin the wife’s happiness with an “If I can’t have him attitude”
If she was bothered about the wife she’d have given the husband the ultimatum of telling her but she wants to go in with maximum heartache hoping the wife leaves him and she can have him.
I’d want to know but her intentions are not good either way. All threads about “friends” make me think it’s the OP, sorry.

Octonaught · 29/04/2018 09:56

I wouldn’t be surprised if the wife already knows the husband is a cheat & it probably isn’t the first time.

I in no way condone what your friend has done. ( speaking as someone who’s ex had an affair & left for the ow.) however your friend is in a mess, she needs some therapy and then decide how to tell the wife in a less spiteful way. As the wife, I wanted to know. However, I didn’t need my face rubbed in it.

ThereAreTooMany · 29/04/2018 10:00

I would want to know if I was the wife despite the OWs reasons for doing so.

I find your description of your friend as ‘vulnerable’ a bit grating. It’s like you are making excuses for her.

ginghamstarfish · 29/04/2018 10:00

Yes, the wife should be told but leave out the intimate photos etc, she doesn't need that.

RallyAnnie · 29/04/2018 10:00

Does that marriage have children? Of what ages? What impact might the revelations have on them?

Juells · 29/04/2018 10:01

@Toyboysrus

Coming at it from a different angle, if it's been going on for 2 years the wife may already know but be turning a blind eye to preserve her comfy life style. I've known women be happy that their dh gets sex elsewhere so they don't have to bother with it.

What a load of bullshit. You're just trying to downplay the hurt that the wife suffers, and I wonder about your motivivation 😉 There isn't a woman in the world who wants her husband to be having sex with some skank that might pass on an STD.

Jessbow · 29/04/2018 10:01

Spiteful.

Wasn't too bothered about the wife while she was shagging him, was she?

HennaTattoo · 29/04/2018 10:01

Stupid thing is she's got so much going for her. She has a brilliant career, younger than me ( by a long way..) and has the world at her feet. And she's allowed this person to bring her to this level. She could have anyone. I must be thick because I can't get my head round it.

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Lostforagoodname · 29/04/2018 10:04

Well that’s why she needs to see a therapist ASAP. To end up having to watch someone else go on holidays and never spend your birthday with you, must mean you have very little self esteem. And a very skewed idea of what a happy relationship is.
And to believe someone’s words over actions and ignore all the red flags. And just take the crumbs? Much deeper issues impo

Joanna57 · 29/04/2018 10:05

Now come on OP........YOU are the other woman.

You are too invested in this not to be her.

Cawfee · 29/04/2018 10:06

If I was the wife then I would want to know. 100%. Regardless of her motives the important thing is that this poor woman is wasting her life on a liar

HadronCollider · 29/04/2018 10:07

Have a friend in same circumstances who did this. Despite my advice not to, contacted the OW on facebook, who then phoned her. My friend then told her everything, including the fact she had a 2 year old 'love' child. All apparently with good intentions (she needs to know, doing her a favour, he can't get away with it....you know, none of the things which were necessary before, when they'd been together.Hmm)

Anyway it backfired spectacularly.

When she told her what had been going on, instead of being pissed, the wife was sweet as pie (at least outwardly anyway). She was aware her husband had form for cheating, he'd done it once before, and although she was suprised to learn about his secret child, she was such a nice person, that she expressed concern about my friend's child and the possibility of him not knowing his father and siblings as he grew up! She said she thought my friend had been treated terribly, offered support, shared how disapointed she felt about her husbands behaviour, and offered to meet my friend with the children so they could get to know each other. Then she asked her husband to leave whilst telling him he ought to reconcile and make things right for the sake of all the children!Grin

I can not tell you how much this pissed my friend off. Over the years of the affair, she had built a picture of what a cold, sexless, unaffectionate, cow this woman was, as described by the lying cheating man. In her mind she had become an adversary, the thing keeping them apart.

What she really wanted when she so altruistically contacted the wife, was for her live up to the picture she had in her head. She wanted her to rave and bitch at her and have a spectacular showdown, in order to make it easy to hate her and justify continuing 'fighting' for the guy, but what she saw was that the wife was very like her, just a lovely woman who had been in love with and deceived by a scumbag. The more I kept saying the wife sounded lovely the more pissed she got. It was suprising how similar they were temperamently amd personality wise, both strung along by this guy.

At this point I was prepared to lose her as a friend as I thought her behaviour was awful. But several days later, realising th truth of the situation, she confessed she knew she had done something really horrible and felt ashamed.

Long and short he's gone back to the foolish wife, but its worse for my friend now because she knows she is in fact quite lovely!

therealposieparker · 29/04/2018 10:07

I would. I absolutely would. Spite or not.

WeepingButterfli · 29/04/2018 10:08

Yes she should tell the wife. But maybe in a letter. I think the wife deserves to know. I don't understand the vitriol towards your friend - it's the husband who cheated, not her. You've said she was vulnerable when they met and he told her he was leaving his wife etc, he's the scumbag, not her.

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 29/04/2018 10:08

What a load of bullshit. You're just trying to downplay the hurt that the wife suffers, and I wonder about your motivivation 😉 There isn't a woman in the world who wants her husband to be having sex with some skank that might pass on an STD.

Honestly, Juells, there are lots of women who just don't want to rock the boat. I'm sure they aren't happy about their husband's affairs, but they stand to lose a lot by ending the marriage - or by having a big confrontation forced on them.

BoneyBackJefferson · 29/04/2018 10:11

HennaTattoo

And she's allowed this person to bring her to this level.

No-one has brought her to "this level" she made the decisions she is responsible for them. (and for those saying what about the man, he is responsible for his actions as well)

SomeKnobend · 29/04/2018 10:14

The wife needs to know. There's absolutely no need for the ow to meet her though, I think that's entirely selfish (obviously a surprise trait for an ow)! Just send her the evidence.

therealposieparker · 29/04/2018 10:16

I've heard that the betrayal is sometimes worse than the affair.... not for me, both would be enough to end my marriage, but the thought that people know things about my marriage and my husband that I didn't know would make everything so much worse.