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Prenup advice

217 replies

prenupdebate · 26/03/2018 11:41

Hi, I'm new so apologies if this is in the wrong place.
Basically, myself and my partner of almost 18 months have been thinking about marriage. Although this should be a happy and exciting time, we're unable to think seriously about it until we're both confident that we have the right processes in place... i.e. a prenup. My partner earns approx. £80k and is 34, has a lot of assets whereas I have very little. I have an ok job (around £20k and I'm 25) that doesn't pay loads, but I get by and we have both agreed it is ideal for when we have children as it's 'safe' and has good benefits.
I am more than happy to sign a prenup that will protect his assets - his house, car, savings and most importantly his company. These are all things he has done for himself before we even met, I have not earned them nor do I deserve or want them. What worries me is he seems to think this attitude should continue after marriage - that property, savings etc should remain his as 'he' will be buying them and that most likely our finances would be completely separate. He's very wishy washy on what he believes I would deserve if we marry and I give up work to become a mother to his kids and a glorified housekeeper.
I gave him a scenario that if we (or HE as he sees it) acquire £300k of assets over a 15 year marriage and have 2 kids, what would he see as a fair settlement and he couldn't answer. I said all I care about is knowing that if I have his children I will be able to put a roof over their heads and he said he doesn't see why he should give me a house in the case of divorce.
The whole thing is very unromantic, and I'm starting to see that perhaps he will always see his money as his money, no matter how much I sacrifice and the effort I put into him/us/our family. I'm very good to him, I give him all my time, I buy all the groceries and cook for him daily despite still living separately, and he knows I'll take care of him always, I often feel like he takes this for granted.
Am I being unreasonable here? I always thought a marriage was an equal partnership. If my parents had got divorced I'm certain my Dad wouldn't have dreamed of giving my Mum anything less than 50/50 despite the fact he technically 'paid' for the house, cars etc.
Please let me know your thoughts, as this is causing me a lot of heartache... I love him very much but I can't help but wonder if I want to be with a man who puts money above the ones he loves. He also has 2 children from a previous relationship that he doesn't pay enough for IMO.
I am not a gold digger, although I'm sure some will say I am. I have no interest in his existing assets and if he is made bankrupt tomorrow I'd still love him exactly the same. I'm simply concerned that if we marry, he'll makes his fortune, he'll leave me with a couple of kids and I'll be left with absolutely nothing.

OP posts:
bastardkitty · 29/03/2018 15:21

Wow OP - you are so well rid of this twat.

dirtybadger · 29/03/2018 15:23

Hell. Yeah.

Onwards and upwards.

prenupdebate · 29/03/2018 15:27

I don’t know if I ever would have, but I refused to meet unless he did that much.
But yes I agree I should have seen the red flags earlier in the relationship. I was young and the guy I had really liked before him (one of my best friends) actually suddenly passed away before it could progress into something more. I see now that this made me willing to accept a lesser man as I was scared of being alone and scared of losing someone else

OP posts:
hellsbellsmelons · 29/03/2018 15:32

So him being a fucking tight wad who doesn't want to support his kids properly is now YOUR fault.
God he really is the biggest cock ever.
I'm glad you contacted her.
Always helps to see the other side.
You've had a very lucky escape here.
I'm so glad you posted.
The women of MN are very wise indeed.
As are you OP.
Now get out there with your friends and enjoy your young life!!

prenupdebate · 29/03/2018 15:37

Yep! Will perhaps make another post in the future on ‘how to forgive yourself for being a complete mug’.
I genuinely did not think that people like him genuinely existed, it’s been a real eye opener and made me grow up a lot. I’m so very grateful to this site, it has potentially saved me from years and years of utter misery.
I’m just very sad for the kids. They’ll see him for what he is one day and that devastated me. And I am going to miss them terribly, makes me want to cry just thinking about that.
Again, thank you so much to each and every person who commented, you opened my eyes and words can’t describe how grateful I am for that xxxxxx

OP posts:
fuzzywuzzy · 29/03/2018 15:42

Ah OP lucky escape.

Always take a man who tells you his ex is a psycho bitch from hell gold digger and therefore he is now a total tightwad with a barrel of salt.

He sounds so abusive. Can you imagine punishing your own children because your ex unrelated to them has dumped you!

TemptressofWaikiki · 29/03/2018 15:42

OP, I am so in awe of you and your self-awareness! It took me a lot longer and further down the road to wake up to my abusive ex. I am sorry in a way that our predictions were so true but glad it helped you discover in time what he is really like. When someone has so little loyalty and regard for his own children, then you will fare even worse. I totally get that a bereavement or other tragedy will lower your overall awareness and make you settle for someone so unworthy. This is how some people fall prey to sects or conmen because they are searching for something to make them feel better and are far easier taken in. Take some time out to reset your own expectations, learn to live alone and enjoy it. Then you are far better equipped to hang on to your self-worth and get a wonderful man who is generous in every way.

Guiltypleasures001 · 29/03/2018 15:51

Glad you grasped the nettle op , and maybe point his ex our way 😀

Missingstreetlife · 29/03/2018 18:58

Lucky escape. Well done Sherlock!

TheHumanMothboy · 29/03/2018 19:45

So pleased to see this update- well done! Thanks

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 29/03/2018 20:23

Well, talk is cheap, isn’t it.
Star Star Star Three cheers for you probatedebate! Well done!

bonjourbear · 29/03/2018 20:27

good for you. so glad you followed your instincts, and came here x

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 29/03/2018 20:27

Oops slipped again!
prenupdebate!
Sorry Blush

Blit · 29/03/2018 23:29

I don't know if you've read the fake engagement ring thread OP.

That could have been you one day. Bullet dodged.

Missingstreetlife · 31/03/2018 22:55

You probably want a clean break, but his ex seems to have some solidarity with you. She might allow you to see the children, say goodbye or try to be a friend. Let him rot.

SandyY2K · 31/03/2018 23:10

When he found out I had contacted his ex partner he said he was going to pay what the CSA say (very very little) and tell the kids that it was ME who ruined it for them.

What a nasty piece of work he is. You were trying to get more for them...yet he would lie like this. It's despicable.

You've seen his true colours. Sometimes MN is extreme...but thanks heavens your eyes have been opened to what a manipulator he is.

Straight on tinder eh. Shame he doesn't settle on marrying his money. Men like him never change. They'll just pretend in order to hook you in.

SandyY2K · 31/03/2018 23:21

So he lied about what he was paying in the first place ...which you thought wasn't enough.... then lied about what the new amount would be. Shocking! He's proved himself to be tighter than a pig's a$$.

When peoples lie about one thing...they'll probably have lied about other things too.

As you see ... he must have been horrible to her ..no wonder she left him and well done to get for getting a home for her kids out of it. I'll be that makes his blood boil till today.

Lucky Lucky escape for you
@prenupdebate

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