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Onit's still on it! Thread 3

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onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/11/2016 13:49

Hello to anyone who's still here Smile

Links to previous threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2658829-Anyone-up-DH-is-leaving-me

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2690159-Anyone-up-DH-is-leaving-me-follow-up-thread-Onits-on-it

I'm carrying on with this as I'm certain I'd be in a much unhappier state without the support I've received here.
This has become my journal of sorts and I hope it's something I can look back on in time to see how far I've come.
I also hope it helps to document the truth of my situation for the future and perhaps, if read by others, will offer help and hope to them too.

OP posts:
MrsPeelyWaly · 05/03/2017 21:04

I've been very guarded about personal stuff

If you ever need to change your username you should change it to Matahari Grin

underitoveritthroughit · 06/03/2017 10:56

On my way to counselling followed by date no.2!!

nigelforgotthepassword · 06/03/2017 12:25

Good luck good luck Grin

Clockwork97 · 06/03/2017 12:51

Best of luck Onit !!!!
So happy that you having some fun,
😃😍😃💄xxx

underitoveritthroughit · 07/03/2017 06:19

Second date when very well.
He really is very sweet. He seems to like me a lot and I feel very comfortable with him. Almost safe which unnerves me slightly (oh the irony) I literally feel like I've known him for years. I also know that's just not true, and I'm also wary at the same time)
He's opened up a whole gamut of feelings I didn't think I was ever going to be capable of feeling.
I'm sure I won't fall for him. And I'm prepared for the distinct possibility that it will fizzle out for whatever reason.
But, the significance of the date this weekend has hit me.
I got in contact again with ow ex.
He is still struggling in ways I'm not.
He'd mentioned this date and it's hit me in a way I haven't felt in a long time.
I've asked my friends to come and be with me on Saturday but it's short notice and they're all busy. I'm not holding out for it.

I should be celebrating! A year ago my life changed but the difference in me is overwhelmingly positive.
Why do I feel so shit?

nigelforgotthepassword · 07/03/2017 06:36

Anniversaries of things are hard onit. They remind us how far we've come but also what a crap time of it we've had-they churn up all sorts of feelings.
Plus this dating stuff is a significant change for you- a good change but a big one and it represents a bit more closure on you and LTB in an odd way.And whilst that's a good thing it's probably also making you feel a bit sad as endings do-even positive ones.
I hope your friends can come and be with you. If not we will all be about.
It's the anniversary of the day I found out about exh and my friend in a few weeks-I've been doing much better lately but as that date approaches I can feel myself sinking a bit-so I do hear what you are saying.But look how far you have come-you've done pretty great kid!

underitoveritthroughit · 07/03/2017 06:46

Thanks nigel
I think it's the doing really well which has me most worried as I'm constantly waiting for the bomb to drop.
Anniversaries are shit, aren't they?
I had an urge earlier to send a card to their new flat. Not signed or anything. But I guess he'd know it was from me. Though I'm sure he has no idea I know his new address so he might not.

underitoveritthroughit · 07/03/2017 06:53

Have you got some support for yourself for your date nigel?
It still amazes me how brilliantly you've handled it all esp because you are so close to it all.
At least ow isn't at the school gate every day Sad
Your ex and her just the biggest pair of cunts I've ever heard of! And frankly you're well rid of both but god it's hard!
I may take you up on the handhold if my pals are unavailable and offer the same service in return when/if you need it.
When is the date, if you don't mind me asking?

nigelforgotthepassword · 07/03/2017 07:57

March 20th. I'm away for the weekend before, on purpose, and coming back on that day. I'm hoping once it's over with I'll feel better.
I still feel huge rage towards them both-made worse these last few Weeks as dd2 has been very upset-ex has been mentioning the woman more in the hopes of normalising the situation I assume-dd became really anxious and tearful and refused to go to school for two days-She didn't want to talk to her dad as she said he would either 'be cringey' or 'tell her off'.I suggested in the end she wrote him a letter which she did.He didn't really comment except to say it was 'upsetting' and probably 'prompted by my reaction to the situation'.That hurt because I've really tried to keep them out of it.
We never talk about it at home really-Except when they are down I give them a cuddle-but she is never mentioned.But because she was a big part of our Iives before and they know about her and him they have put the pieces together-they aren't idiots!
He doesn't seem to link that fact that if you start shagging yours kids mums best mate and there are two other kids involved, and they are all known to each other, it's likely to be harder for them to get their head around. It's impossible to get through on that one because he doesn't want to see it of course-but it does mean I just don't trust him to look after their emotional well being.
Sorry, that was a ramble...
Really I just want it all to go away tbh.

underitoveritthroughit · 07/03/2017 08:14

Ramble away! You're more than entitled.

They really are all just so, so selfish.
I'm pleased you have plans but I'm here on the day if you need it.

Big hugs to you and yours lovely nigel Flowers

Clockwork97 · 07/03/2017 08:30

Nigel, that must be so so hard.
Your best mate , yuk!!! It must feel like a double edge sword when you know the OW.
Just absolutely awful. That must be so hard for you and your children.
What a vile pair.
Anniversaries are so hard , mine was around Christmas, so not a great time.

How old are your children.
My children are in their late teens and have found it extremely difficult and for various reasons have little to do with their dad.
We didn't know OW , i can't imagine your pain.
I have found it so difficult to cope with but for you and Onit it must be a more poisoned chalice with a good friend causing this tsunami.
Yes they always blame us for our children being upset by them having a new woman.
Yea ok , it's all BS to ease their own guilt and deflect away from their disgusting actions.
putting a new woman before their children. 😳🙄 And in your case she was your best mate. 😡
It's good your away around the anniversary, I know it helped me cope to be away. Sending you 🌺 And a big hug.
Onit, so glad you had a good time on your date,
We will be around to hold your hand this weekend. Anniversaries resonate all the emotions leading up to the event and all that you've done and achieved since.
Xx

nigelforgotthepassword · 07/03/2017 08:55

Thanks both.It means a lot this sort of support-My rl friends have been great but are running out of things to say I think-and its difficult for them as we were quite a close social group for a fair few years.
Clock works-they are 9.5 and 11.
If anything it's her betrayal that's worse than his to me-men think with their dicks-and their ego's. Plus Im sure I'm not the easiest to live with sometimes.It's not excusable, and I loathe him for it and for not thinking about the inevitable effect on our kids-but I see his motivations.Hers are less clear.she was extremely deceitful, manipulative and at times as it turns out, downright nasty, all whilst allowing me to support her through her own marital breakdown-for which the reasons are now of course clear, and subsequent 'depression'. She pretends to be a sort of slightly bohemian, left wing, sensitive, socially concerned type of person-and yet has behaved like a class a bitch towards a friend who couldn't have done more for her when she acted convincingly like she needed it.Off the scale headfuck really!
Still back to our lovely onit... Sorry to hijack!

Clockwork97 · 07/03/2017 09:09

I'm sure Onit won't mind you telling us about your story. You need to vent your feelings.
Sounds horrendous Nigel.
Yes I would loathe the bitch. I really would.
I hate the bitch who I feel destroyed my family and I have never met her.
What a vile person to lean on you while her " marriage broke down" all the time shagging your husband.😡😡
Those left wing bohemian types who pontificate are sometimes the worse. Do as I say , not as I do. Yes I'm shagging your husband, but never mind.
Like you say a class A bitch.
the pain and feelings of betrayal must be heart wrenching Nigel.
I have never hated like I do , I just feel it is natural as they have thrown a grenade into your family unit.
Thinking of you so much,
We will be ok ladies, it's just going to take time xx🌺

underitoveritthroughit · 07/03/2017 12:54

Vent away nigel

Strangely I had LCB tell me about meeting ow for coffee to discuss her marital problems a month or so before it all came out.
I suspected before that but I hate him so much for telling me as I felt it was purely to confuse and obfuscate and now it feels like he rubbed salt in the wound.

Bunch of cunts that they all are Angry

Well fuck them and their sad little lives.
We're fucking awesome and even more so without the fuckers holding us back!!!

annielouise · 07/03/2017 13:38

I think you've done amazingly well over the past year. I think your strength has astounded everyone. He's an idiot. Your revenge is to live well and that's what you're doing.

MrsPeelyWaly · 07/03/2017 13:49

What the fuck is it about these frenemies??????? In the last month my cousins 25 year old marriage has broken down because her husband is now with her best friend. Even worse is the fact that when my cousin was telling her friend her she suspected her husband was having an affair she was 'supporting her'. And how did it all come out in the end? Well my cousin showed us all pictures of her newly decorated bedroom on FB and we think it totally enraged the other women and within days it was all over!

Re anniversaries - I couldnt tell you when I eventually got my husband to go. I know it was 4 years ago, a few weeks after our youngest daughter got married and thats it. Is there anyway you can claim back your significant days and make them something else - just another day?

Nigel, Im sorry things are so awful for your DD right now, and in return awful for you as well. I think we'd all agree that we can take anything except our children being in pain.

Onit, dont do the card. They'll know. Re your new friend, just enjoy it Smile

As for me? Well I spent 3 hours with my husband yesterday doing some official work and as soon as I saw him my heart flipped into a series of somersaults just as it always did - it didnt last long though and by the time I went home I was thinking who the fuck was that?????

Stormsurfer · 07/03/2017 22:12

Wow onit you really are Onit! So exciting for you to be dating! Got a big smile on my face ready your recent updates! You have come so far on this year and you are your own person now. So happy for you.

underitoveritthroughit · 08/03/2017 20:27

It's been a busy day!
I had a text conversation with LCB first thing which went well (not!)
I'd filled in an outing consent form for Ds a week or so ago. It'd stayed in his bag all this time and I kept reminding him to hand it in. This morning I reminded him again and he said I'd missed a bit on it but it was ok because daddy had done it. So I checked it. I'd forgotten to do the bit about allergies, tetanus and gp details.
LCB had tried to fill it in but said Ds had no allergy (he has and was what he was hospitalised for last year) he had left the date blank for the last tetanus jag (because he wouldn't have a clue) and he hadn't signed it.
I texted him to thank him for filling it in but he'd made a significant error and left it incomplete anyway so next time could he please just let me know of my error and I would correct it.
He replied if there was a significant error that it must be something I had failed to inform him of wrt ds's health.
I replied that I was concerned he'd forgotten his son had an allergic reaction which caused him to be hospitalised and could he please just let me know if I have missed something in future.
I'm sure he was unhappy to be called out on it but I felt I had no choice. I did restrain myself from suggesting that he may have been distracted at the time Ds was in hospital (as this was the same time ow's dh found the messages and threw her out)

I also had my mediation intake appointment today.
I told the lady that I wouldn't be prepared to take part if I had to sit in the same room with him. That his manipulation and bullying tactics scared me.

I said I wasn't going to discuss contact or custody. That I had only agreed to this because he had bullied me into it.
That my agenda would consist of discussing the introduction of ow to the dc and the potential risks of that.
I didn't mention the messages but I did say I was concerned that ow had shown by her behaviour that she had no concept of what it's like to be a parent and no regard for the wellbeing of my children. That together, I worried about their combined record of risky behaviour. I did concede that I had an emotional response to her because she had been a friend of mine and I felt I'd been betrayed by her as well as LCB.
But mostly that LCB only wanted to introduce her to make his life easier and not because it would benefit the dc. That he felt that because the dc had asked to meet ow that they should be allowed to make that decision despite the fact they are children and unaware of the consequences of such a meeting. And I was concerned that LCB had also shown by his behaviour since our split that he too had no concept of his actions having consequences.

That there were other things I'd like to discuss; things like bedtimes and their diet, the need of LCB to be the dcs friend and unwillingness to parent responsibly.

She offered shuttled mediation which I've agreed to in the first instance but, as she said, if he refuses to discuss my points unless I discuss his, it may not work.
And tbh that's fine with me.
The custody thing is for him to take me to court over. And I'd hope his lawyer has told him the likelihood is he'd lose. Or at least not gain.

Then I saw him at pick up and, as I had been out with friends today, I wasn't in my usual jeans and mum coat. I had on my new dress, tights and boots (I swear I'm going to wear this dress to Tesco Grin) and I looked hot Wink
He actually looked me up and down but he had pure hatred in his face. I was laughing with my friends but I saw the look. Presumably this mornings failure to show me up as a bad parent had upset him Grin.
He fucking hates me probably more than I hate him. And it makes me feel awesome Grin

Sorry for epic post Blush

nigelforgotthepassword · 08/03/2017 22:48

Good work all around onit.
He hates that you haven't collapsed without him-and that you won't be bullied anymore.you've hit him where it hurts him the most-his ego.

MrsPeelyWaly · 09/03/2017 02:43

Good work all around onit
He hates that you haven't collapsed without him-and that you won't be bullied anymore.you've hit him where it hurts him the most-his ego

Hear Hear Nigel.

Mix56 · 09/03/2017 07:45

100%,HEAR HEAR, you standing looking fab, laughing, showing he is Nothing, is something I would pay to see !!!

underitoveritthroughit · 09/03/2017 08:11

Parents evening tonight Smile

But on a downward TMI note, I think I have thrush Blush

Clockwork97 · 09/03/2017 08:14

Yes he will hate to see you moving onwards and upwards Onit ,
He sounds a right twat,
Would love to have seen his face 😘😘😃
Ha ha xxx

Mix56 · 09/03/2017 08:26

oh shit, don't wait get it sorted asap.

underitoveritthroughit · 09/03/2017 08:30

How long does canesten take to work?
Never suffered with this before Blush