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Onit's still on it! Thread 3

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onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/11/2016 13:49

Hello to anyone who's still here Smile

Links to previous threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2658829-Anyone-up-DH-is-leaving-me

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2690159-Anyone-up-DH-is-leaving-me-follow-up-thread-Onits-on-it

I'm carrying on with this as I'm certain I'd be in a much unhappier state without the support I've received here.
This has become my journal of sorts and I hope it's something I can look back on in time to see how far I've come.
I also hope it helps to document the truth of my situation for the future and perhaps, if read by others, will offer help and hope to them too.

OP posts:
MrsDilligaf · 05/01/2017 20:40

I won't tell you that the emotional change is easy because it wasn't, not for me. Prior to Shithead (as named by my mother Grin) I was waaaay too trusting, way too naive and looking back, I'd say slightly immature.

He changed me. I had become a shadow of myself, and because it takes them time to grind you down, as time passes you become more unsure of yourself, less confident and more inclined to believe the bloody rubbish they spout.

I definitely went through a grief cycle when I was spring cleaning my heart. I was obviously angry with him, but what surprised me was how angry I was with myself.

You will get there. They say it takes a month for every year to get over a relationship...well that's fine and dandy. Just remember "they" weren't in your relationship. You were. Might take you ten minutes, ten weeks, ten months once the ink is dry on the decree absolute. Doesn't matter, what matters is you and your DC come through the tough stuff and then you can look back on this time as a bump in the road.

((Hug))
You probably need one

Happyinthehills · 05/01/2017 21:03

That's brilliant news - well done you.
Your work are being so supportive - I guess that's a measure of how they value you.

nigelforgotthepassword · 05/01/2017 22:55

Brilliant news Grin

underitoveritthroughit · 05/01/2017 23:22

The manager I've been dealing with has never worked with me but she went through a similar situation.
She's also leaving soon so I think she's just making the most of the opportunity to do a nice thing for someone. I'm so appreciative.

These extra weeks will just give me some breathing space between Christmas holidays and going back. I really resent LCB for taking away the opportunity that my career break was offering me. I wanted to spend the time with my family and he took my dc away from me. I wanted to work on our home and look at retraining. Hahahaha!
All I've done is existed and I'll never get this chance again. He stole 20 years from me and wasn't content. He had to take more. I'll never forgive him for what he's done. But I know what you mean MrsD. I'm extremely angry with myself. For just riding along on his wave of control and manipulation.
My perfume makes you sneeze? Ok, I'll stop wearing it then.
I don't need to wear make up? That's so sweet! I won't bother then.
You want to go to get married? Ok. I don't really want to get married but I love you so let's get married then.
You want to buy a new car? Ok. I like car A and B. But you like C and think A and B are bad choices so let's get C then....etc, etc, etc.

So much so I don't even know now if my opinions are actually my own fecking opinions! Because I didn't get a chance to figure stuff out before his opinion became mine.
I was lazy. And wanted an easy life.
Guess this is payback Hmm

underitoveritthroughit · 05/01/2017 23:23

And thanks for the hug MrsD it is very much welcomed Smile

nigelforgotthepassword · 06/01/2017 07:39

I think most of us do that to some degree in a marriage though onit-we want to please the person we are with because we love them.Its just how much that person takes advantage of that that can be the rub.Dont beat yourself up over it.You haven't done anything wrong, at all.
You won't get this exact chance again to have the time with your kids-but there will be other, different chances for you to take-I feel sure of it.
And well done that manager-sometimes that's exactly what you need work wise-a manager with some decency to give you a break.good stuffs

underitoveritthroughit · 06/01/2017 09:06

I think of all the tiny, insignificant changes I made and it makes me angry. Because it paved the way for him to see he could manipulate me into doing what he wanted on the bigger stuff too.
Getting married, having babies, where we lived, who we socialised with, etc. I'm sure he'd argue these were discussions/joint decisions but I'm not so clear on that now.
That may be me just seeing it all now as me sacrificing stuff for him. And at the time with most of it, I don't remember feeling uneasy about it apart from the biggies of getting married and having babies.
In fact I was the one who sat down and said let's do the baby thing after years of saying no. But, I did it for him. I just couldn't say I didn't want them more than he did. But I remember the feeling that I still didn't want it. And I wanted to please him. He was my husband and, once the ring was on my finger, I also remember feeling I'd committed to this traditional setup and my first priority was now my husband. And he wanted kids. The fact I didn't was secondary.

God, I was so naive Blush
I've always thought I was good at the advice thing but I thought our relationship was solid. I never questioned his motives like I would've if a friend had been telling me this stuff.
He was my first proper boyfriend too. I guess emotionally I was about 12 when I met him and he had way more relationship experience than me. He'd moved out at 18. When we moved in together I was 26 I think. That was me leaving my parents.

Naive, immature, stupid and in love. Not good.

Goingtobeawesome · 06/01/2017 12:27

Underit, you're stronger than he could ever dream of being.

MrsPeelyWally · 06/01/2017 15:26

Onit, way back in one of your previous threads I mentioned how these relationships they can plod along till one of the parties has an emotional growth spurt and starts to questions things.

I think this was happening to you when you decided to lose weight and it's why I think, despite your heartbreak, that you were ready for this break up even though you'd not had that light bulb moment. Its why you've coped so well and why you've grown so much in a few short months.

Your husband sensed you were outgrowing him or he was losing his powers of control and manipulation over you and it's why he did what he did - it's also why he picked on someone who although it may not seem so is probably more able to be manipulated etc than you.

He really has just found himself another victim.

MrsDilligaf · 06/01/2017 16:03

Please don't view the years spent with him as wasted....it does feel like that, I know but they will have an impact on the future you.

That impact can be positive or negative depending on your mindset so use the lessons from those years to your advantage.

Go out and treat yourself to a little bottle of perfume. LCB didn't like it? Doesn't matter now...He's not here!

In amongst all the little things there is of course the big stuff to deal with, certainly it is horrible when you come to realise the extent to which manipulation and control was part of your life - he is still trying to manipulate and control but the hold he had on you has changed forever.

It's getting weaker by the day and he knows this. Remember that whenever he turns up the bastarding dial it's because he isn't in control, he's getting weaker, he's losing his hold on you and he's too stupid to be an adult.

In a nutshell...He's a twat. You're amazing.

AgathaF · 06/01/2017 16:05

Fantastic news about your job. I'm so pleased at how it's working out for you.

A finger up to LCB!

MrsPeelyWally · 06/01/2017 16:25

Please don't view the years spent with him as wasted

That's a really important point. I live thousands of miles from the place of my birth and people say to me oh you must regret leaving home and coming here. But the truth is, and I tell my children this all the time - I'll never regret coming here, never regret loving my husband from the time I was 16, I'll never regret being loved by him, and I'll never regret our life together. There was just too much happiness for there to be regrets even if I now know it was kind of dark. I also got my 5 beautiful children. What is there to regret?

nigelforgotthepassword · 07/01/2017 12:31

Exactly-try and look on it all as experience to take your forward more successfully onit...and look at the good things that came out of it-your lovely DC.

Easy for me to say-I'm sitting here sobbing after a horrible discussion about money with ex. I just want it all done.

MrsPeelyWally · 07/01/2017 12:46

Nigel, I want to ask if you're ok but it's such a bloody daft question to ask.

Can we help at all?

nigelforgotthepassword · 07/01/2017 12:50

Only if you have magical powers to make someone see that they are being massively unreasonable and actually pretty vile!
Thankyou Mrs peely...
Need to shake myself before the girls get back... I thought I was doing much better and would manage this conversation-but it seems not :(
Nearly 9 months on and he can still actually make me so anxious Im physically sick.im annoyed with myself more than anything!

underitoveritthroughit · 07/01/2017 13:03

Maybe in time I'll be able to look back with fondness.
At the moment everything is tainted with the knowledge (whether true or not) that I've been manipulated into everything that's ever happened in our relationship. Rationally I know that's not true but I think it's going to take a while to stop feeling that way. And I don't want to because it makes me out to be a victim and I don't want to carry that around the rest of my life. I'm stronger than that.

MrsPeelyWally · 07/01/2017 15:27

Nigel, I hope things get easier for you soon and if it helps 9 months is no time at all in a situation like this. Dont be clock watching and thinking I really should be a lot better now because it will take as long as it takes - and that's ok. X

MrsPeelyWally · 07/01/2017 15:29

maybe in time I'll be able to look back with fondness

I just re-read my post and it looks like I was being insensitive but yes, the above is what I meant - in time xxxx

underitoveritthroughit · 07/01/2017 16:01

nigel I'm so sorry. Somewhere in there I missed your post.
I totally get the anxiety and actually terror in my case when the email drops so having a face to face discussion would cripple me I think.

Do you have a Dd?
I wonder what these bastards would advise their daughters to do in a situation where their ex's are treating them how ours are treating us.
I want to ask him.

I'm so sorry you're still hurting but 9 months isn't long. I'm sure I won't magically be over it in 3 months and we'll still be negotiating then.
Big massive unMN hugs to you nigel, you're wonderful and your ex is a knobend. Flowers

nigelforgotthepassword · 07/01/2017 16:14

Thankyou onit.
I can't stop crying this afternoon.
I'm done.all via solicitor going forwards.

underitoveritthroughit · 08/01/2017 23:31

Hope you've had a better day today nigel

nigelforgotthepassword · 09/01/2017 07:28

Little bit.
Will make an appointment with my solicitor today.
Thankyou for thinking of me onit

underitoveritthroughit · 09/01/2017 09:10

I need to go see my solicitor too. I still haven't looked at LCBs last letter in detail.

He texted me to say he's got an appointment with mediation. I never told him I wasn't going to do that. I'll get it in my response letter.

MrsPeelyWally · 09/01/2017 17:18

Nigel, I hope you're feeling a bit better today. Hopefully things will be a bit more doable once you have a good solicitor on your side.

Onit, you're reserve is absolutely astounding. Well done you for getting Christmas out of the way without the letter ruining it for you.

MrsDilligaf · 09/01/2017 21:37

Onit I was thinking of you yesterday...I was clearing out the freezer and thought "Hmmm I wonder how Onit is getting on filling hers up!"

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