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DH hurt my wrist, will he do it again?

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confused0086 · 16/09/2016 10:49

Hello, name changed for this.
I've been married for 3 months, together for 2 years but we were long distance for most of that. We both smoke. Before we got married he told me he wanted me to quit, I said I would like him to quit with me and we agreed we would after the wedding but it kind of got forgotten. Yesterday he started saying I have to quit and he doesn't want a wife who smokes. He said he doesn't want to quit anymore. He starts a new job next month but currently doesn't have one so I pay for everything. I told him I thought it was ridiculous that he expects me to buy him cigarettes but I'm not allowed them. He went off in a sulk and I went out to the garden to smoke. I realise that was childish. He came out and got right in my face and told me to put it out. I said no and backed away from him and then he grabbed my wrist and twisted it hard so I dropped it. It really hurt and I was so shocked that he did it. I went inside crying and told him he can't ever do anything like that again. He said sorry and he did seem upset. He promised he'd never do it again.
He has always seemed so gentle, it's one of the things I love most about him. I never expected him to act like that. Is it a sign of worse to come or can I believe him?
Sorry if half of this is irrelevant, I don't want to drip feed. And I know I need to quit smoking!

OP posts:
TheSquatLobster · 16/09/2016 18:18

honestly in awe of your bravery. . . . Good luck. You're magnificent and he doesn't deserve you.

^ And this ^

confused0086 · 16/09/2016 18:35

nilbyname thank you so much.

You're all brilliant, I don't have anyone here I could talk to and even if I did I couldn't face it.

He came home with the kitten and then went out again. He knows I haven't forgotten about it. He's not stupid. He was odd. Kind of kicked puppyish. It's manipulative. Kitten is lovely, I'm sure he'll take good care of her, he does love animals. He said he's definitely going to football tomorrow so I'm leaving. My auntie won't contact him, she doesn't have his number and I didn't tell her I was going to leave just that I needed a bit of space to think. I don't want to contact his ex, she rang him 3 times when we were on our honeymoon. If she wanted to speak to me she could have messaged on facebook. I've realised that if I stay or even if we left the country and he had therapy that I would always wonder what would happen. Would he do something worse. I would just be worried all the time. Even if he never did anything again I would spend years worrying and not trusting him. It's no way to live. He can be really lovely, nearly all the time. I thought he was a kind of cultural mixture like me, he's lived in different countries, he's educated and clever. And I always made it really clear that I couldn't accept this kind of behaviour. So he can't plead ignorance in any way.

OP posts:
JinkxMonsoon · 16/09/2016 18:35

Wasn't suggesting that all Western men are enlightened, StVincent, but rather that you can't instil Western "values" (for want of a better term) into a man who hasn't lived in the West, has never subscribed to that sort of belief system (female equality etc) and probably has no desire to change his outlook because it wouldn't benefit him.

JinkxMonsoon · 16/09/2016 18:36

Forgive me for making assumptions that he's never lived in the West, that may not be the case.

confused0086 · 16/09/2016 18:50

JinkxMonsoon He went to university in Europe and lived in another European country for a year after that. Both very liberal countries. Until his business failed he used to travel quite a lot too. He always told me he wasn't of the misogynistic mindset common here and I never had any reason to think that wasn't true. I actually thought I was a bit more conservative than him.

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PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 16/09/2016 18:52

I don't want to contact his ex, she rang him 3 times when we were on our honeymoon.

Ok, I know our main priority is getting you to a safe place, but I am agog with curiosity about ^^ this! Tell us at some point. Smile

Thatwaslulu · 16/09/2016 19:03

I was in an abusive relationship for 2 years before I met my husband. My ex, S, started off as a charmer - even asked me if he could kiss me before our first kiss. I was 17 and he was my first real boyfriend; he was 29 and hiding the fact he was married. He left his wife after she found out about me. One night we had arranged to meet up and he was late, so I turned up at his mum's house. He was really angry and pushed me, the first time he had shown me anything but courtesy and kindness. After that first time, he apologised and promised it wouldn't happen again.

A few weeks later I wore a short skirt on a date with him. He questioned if it was appropriate to wear it to visit his parents. This was the first sign of controlling behaviour. Over the next few months he gradually eroded my confidence whilst isolating me from my friends and family. I only had him but he said it was us against the world. I thought I would never be wanted by anyone else, and besides I was infatuated.

My parents were concerned and when my dad found out that S had been spending time with his (now ex) wife he begged me to leave S. We argued and I moved out of home and in with S.

Once we were living together and nobody was likely to see the bruises, S hit me all the time. I wasn't allowed to see anyone after work but he went out all the time. I got pregnant and he forced me to have an abortion, saying he would kick the baby out of me if I didn't. He got me to take out loans to clear his debts (I didn't know until that point but he was bankrupt). He kicked me down the stairs for reading Cosmo as it had a shirtless man in it, then when we got locked out and the fire brigade had to come to get us back in our flat, he beat me again for making him kick me down the stairs and get locked out. He raped me after beating me on more than one occasion, and would stick his hand down my knickers when I returned from work to check that I hadn't been having sex with anyone else.

The reason I am telling you all this is that control and violence start small. They test the boundaries and once you accept it on one occasion, they go a little further and a little further until it becomes commonplace yet you can't leave because you are scared of life without him because you are isolated. My advice is to leave if you can. Things will escalate and if he has hurt you once and is trying to control an aspect of your life, it is likely that he will continue. I never believed I would find someone to love me after he left me, but I did and have been married to a kind and caring man who has never raised a hand to me in the 17 years we have been together. Good luck.

Lorelei76 · 16/09/2016 19:03

You're leaving tomorrow?

Excellent. I hope it all goes smoothly.

Bogeyface · 16/09/2016 19:06

Its easy to be liberal in countries where treating people equally is expected. Its also easy to slide back into tradtitional values of a particular culture when you are living there. He is living in a patriarchal society where man is boss, he has no incentive to change because there is no societal demands that he do so. He could well be different if he moved back to Europe but you would always know that that underlying misogyny is there and could rear its ugly head at any time. I think you are doing the right thing by leaving, I wish you all the best.

Whereabouts in the UK will you be going? Do you have support there?

SheStoodInTheStorm · 16/09/2016 19:09

Good luck OP. You've had a lot of brilliant advice here.

Stay strong. Flowers

AdoraBell · 16/09/2016 20:54

Bogeyface is right. Even if he did "change" if he moved to, say, the U.K there would be an expectation of a visit back home to see his family/friends. Then he could turn nasty.

Leaving him really is the only option, but you need to do it safely. Give him no hint that you will leave while he is playing football. And don't think too much about the kitten. You didn't buy it and you didn't bring it home.

Purplebluebird · 16/09/2016 21:54

So glad to come back to the thread and see you've decided to leave tomorrow. Stay safe and secret from him. Did you manage to get tickets?

Memoires · 16/09/2016 22:38

You go woman! You are being so strong and brave. No, he will not change, and you will spend most of your life guarding yourself against his doing it again - you can't have a marriage and children like that.

Well done.

Allatseainthemidlands · 16/09/2016 23:27

Keep us posted OP and please let us know once you're out and safe. Stay strong. You deserve so much better than this Flowers

Bogeyface · 16/09/2016 23:34

Yes, please do let us know when you are safe.

I live near East Midlands Airport and me and H and DD can give you a lift if you need one.

USbound · 16/09/2016 23:50

Good luck for tomorrow, you've got this. Leave absolutely no clue that you've gone for the airport of you can, I.e. He thinks you've gone to see a friend/go for a a walk whatever. Take your electronics/memories whatever you can fit in a case and go when he's gone.
Huge well done.

MyKingdomForBrie · 16/09/2016 23:57

There is nothing lovely about a man that would attempt to decide what you can and can't do and have different rules for you and him, and that's before he has hit you. He's a disgusting excuse for a human being and I really hope you go through with leaving him, for good.

Goingtobeawesome · 17/09/2016 06:55

"And I always made it really clear that I couldn't accept this kind of behaviour. So he can't plead ignorance in any way."

No one should ever think their partner would accept violence.

alphabook · 17/09/2016 07:31

Whether he will change or not in future doesn't matter at this point, you can deal with that later. The most important thing right now is that you need to get yourself to a place of safety where you have access to friends, family, transport, healthcare and the police.

nilbyname · 17/09/2016 07:47

op you're yhe first thing I thought of this morning. Travel safely and do let us know your safe.

Pandamanda3 · 17/09/2016 08:25

YEH I second that nilbyname!
Op good luck, don't get butterfly's Or second thought's or anything like that please please get up and go for it! you can do it, your so so strong, think this is your future you deserve to have a happy one!
If you need any support, words of encouragement, to let you know your not alone today on your journey pop on & you will see just how many people are rooting for you to be safe & well.
Head up shoulders back walk out that door & take the first step to a happy future 'one that you control.
Thinking of you 'have a good flight, travel well.
You go girl!!!!!

Footle · 17/09/2016 08:42

Glad to hear he'll be nice to the kitten. PP's idea of you taking it with you was the only amusing idea on this sad thread !

Good luck all the way home.

Lottapianos · 17/09/2016 09:05

Thatwaslulu, that is a truly sickening story. It must have taken incredible strength to leave a man like that. I'm so glad that life is happier and more peaceful for you now, you deserve it

Milklollies · 17/09/2016 09:37

One name: Sian Blake

Even the the most modern men can have uncontrolled rage. Some of those high court judges used to paint themselves as Angels when in reality they would abuse their wives. Higher escorts to rape etc. A man/ woman will often say what they think the person they are speaking to with will want to hear.

Milklollies · 17/09/2016 09:38
  • hire not higher. Damn autocorrect