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Financial control. What is normal?

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AngryMo · 03/01/2016 00:20

I've lost count how many times I've tried to start this thread, and don't know how to articulate it as I don't really know what I want. It ranges from I need to leave ASAP to I might as well just stay.

The many questions that I keep switching between are:

Is DH emotionally/financially abusive? I don't know if I'm imagining it or if it is real.

How do couples manage their finances if one stays at home? I want to know what other people do to see if the way he manages it is normal or not.

Why does he on the one hand, show off to his friends about the money he's spent doing up our house recently and the flashy things he's bought, but on the other, makes me feel like I'm almost stealing his money when I need cash for housekeeping or other essential things for the children (we agreed I would stay home until kids are in school)? Why does he make me account for every single penny like we don't have any money when I know he has plenty? Why did he buy me an expensive gift for Christmas and splash out on expensive wines and things for our guests but then have a go at me for spending £7.50 on a gift for a friend's daughter, which he then checked the price of online to check I wasn't lying?

I'm exhausted living with him and he makes me miserable which can't be much fun for him either. I don't see how he can enjoy being in this relationship either. In the past he's humiliated me in front of friends, reducing me to tears in front of them, he's stormed off leaving me in a restaurant on my own with a full plate after I wanted to discuss what was wrong with us and how we could fix it. I've also had two panic attacks because of how he treats me. He never apologises in person but has by email but even the never spontaneously, always as a result of me telling him he needs to apologise.

Also, he doesn't really react when I tell him we should probably just split up and then pretends everything is fine after an argument's died down. Why does he do that?

I never get any real emotion from him and I don't remember the last time I thought what a lovely person you are. I used to, but that was years ago. I get so jealous when I see happy couples bantering away together, being affectionate with one another.

But then again, maybe I am a complete idiot, what was I thinking giving up my job to look after my children? Why did I hand over my financial independence? Is he right to control my spending so tightly? Should I have to ask every time I need to buy a new bra or want to take the kids out or need to buy a present for a friend? Maybe this is normal, I don't know. Maybe it is all his money and I don't deserve to be spending it. I rarely ask for money for anything frivolous. Maybe because he earns the money, if he wants to spend £2000 on an appliance I have no right to say it's too expensive. I'm so scared to tell him I overspent the other day by accident. He's never been physically abusive but I'm scared of his reaction. Often if I tell him something - anything, not necessarily money related, I wonder why I bothered because it's not worth the grief, so I keep many things to myself and it makes me secretive which I dislike. I am a very open person generally and it's not in my nature to behave that way but I feel forced to.

Thing is though because I am now financially dependent, he knows it's not that easy for me to leave. I don't know what to do. I love my children deeply and they are only small and need us to be together.

Anyone who can relate to me or has any experience, has words of advice, or even to tell me I'm being pathetic, whatever it is, I would like to know.

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Jux · 01/02/2016 00:27

Mo, it isn't a big mistake, and it isn't a fuss about nothing. Do take this thread with you and let the person read some.

Akire · 01/02/2016 00:31

Deep breaths - in and - out. I would write out a basic statement about you and your situation. Just the facts. If it all gets to much you can hand over the summary - while you get your breath back.

You are not wasting their time you are in an un happy relationship with an un caring partner who has a abisive control way he manages the household budget. You want to end the relationship but you have no access to money or resources for you and the children.

You want to know your rights re house and maintence given you are not married but jointly own the home. And about claiming benefits in your personal circumstances that you said are not standard/complex.

You have very little money while he is away and is there anything you can claim or do this week to get ball rolling.

Something like that.....

KiwiJude · 01/02/2016 00:58

No Mo, it isn't a mistake. Dolly's suggestion about letting the person read some of this thread is a good idea. Akire has good suggestions too. Your MN village will be there with you at that meeting. And make sure you glug something nice afterwards Grin

Akire · 01/02/2016 01:08

As this thread only has 20 or more posts to go before its full you may want to start a new - kicking the Bastard into touch etc thread!

Atenco · 01/02/2016 02:36

Angry Mo, let me remind you that your husband's behaviour is outrageous, one of the worst cases of financial abuse I have read on mumsnet. Good luck with CAB and write it down before you go.

mix56 · 01/02/2016 06:07

Mo, I doubt they will have time to read the thread. You probably only have a 15 minute slot ??? maybe 30 ?
but, maybe highlight a couple of posts of the most dark info

Here are a few bullet points:

You were jointly agreed you would become SAHM for 3rd.
How finances worked before
His salary
Since, he has kept you AND the children on shoe strings. explain re car breakdown, general penury
pre paid card, no choice, he's dominant, unkind, critical & happy to spend thousands on himself. He is CONTOLLING you, this is EA
not married, joint owned home (altho is your name actually on the deed ?)
You need help with a way out, no access to money for SHL or anything else, what are your rights ? re children? re house sale? re benefits ? moving nearer your parents.
Can you oblige him to pay for SHL, & refund when house is sold ?
I do think you will have to accept that you are likely going to have to sell to get any money¨

AngryMo · 01/02/2016 08:14

Thank you everyone, I thought I was fine about this meeting! I'll take my notes, flagged emails and this thread just in case I lose the plot.
Wish me luck!

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mix56 · 01/02/2016 08:35

Good Luck Mo...... You are going to be fine, Breath !

AngryMo · 01/02/2016 08:38

Oh the raging hypocrisy! I've just remembered yet another thing. If he ever tries to organise something with friends he always criticises them when they say "I'll have to ask my wife" etc, just normal, checking if there are any other commitments etc. But he always says why doesn't he just tell her he's going? Or some such comment about it being pathetic.
And yes, he does just usually tell me the dates he wants to do something separately. Yet if I want to do ANYTHING (since I've been at home that is, obviously requiring money from him) I have to plead and await the verdict. When I had my own money, I had more freedom and did go out more, but nowhere near as much as him because simply I think normal people's priorities change when you have children and your focus is more on them and less on you- but no not him, he has barely compromised on anything.
Sorry just had to let that out! Probably the adrenaline releasing all that rage!

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AngryMo · 01/02/2016 08:43

New thread

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AngryMo · 01/02/2016 09:36

Oh shit I'm shaking and crying already. Need to pull myself together.

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PhoenixReisling · 01/02/2016 09:40
Flowers

Can you take someone with you?

AngryMo · 01/02/2016 09:42

Too late, I'm on my way. It's ok I've managed to keep it together. I'm going to try my Wonder Woman pose...

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bb888 · 01/02/2016 12:12

Good luck Flowers

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