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just had a chat with dh about his emotional affair

211 replies

FlappertyFlippers · 26/04/2015 12:07

Dh and I have been together 10 years and have 2 dc (aged 5 and 1). Things are good between us, at times they are great.

However there has always been one niggle in our relationship -his very close friendship with his ex (they'd split about 2 years before we got together and remained friends). She suffers from depression, has had a string of crappy relationships, is financially unstable and she depends on my dh her only friend emotionally, for practical stuff (he still sorts out her car insurance), etc.they don't see each other often but chat on the phone every day, at least once a day and he always leaves the room for these chats, he guards his phone and never lets me near it, and he basically shuts me out of this part of his life. I fucking hate it.

In the past he has gone behind my back in order to help her out and make her happy, without any consideration for me and my feelings. The worst case was when dd was just born and he decided to start up a business with her without even consulting me or discussing it. This means I have severe issues with trust around their relationship as I know he is willing to prioritise her wants over my opinion. To me it felt like a complete betrayal of trust, but he cannot see this and views it as just him supporting her and helping her to get on with her life. This is just one example, not an isolated incident.

Lately the amount of phone calls, his secrecy, etc has ramped up and I decided to gently confront him as quite frankly I can't take anymore. I explained how I felt excluded, how actually she knows more about what's going on in his life than I do and how uncomfortable it makes me feel.

He got defensive, says it's all in my head, he's just helping her through a tough time, is pissed off I basically don't trust him and says I'm blowing it all out of proportion.

He asked what he was supposed to do, stop being her friend all together? I said no, I would not ask that of him, the only relationship I can control/end is the one between him and me and I know that if I did try and end their friendship he'd just resort to hiding it instead. I told him it was up to him to find a solution as his behaviour around things to do with her is the cause of my issues. I feel like he is having an emotional affair, and I'm just a convenience in his life who does his cooking, his laundry, childcare,, etc.

Then ds woke up and I'm now hiding in his room rocking him back to sleep.

Is there a solution to our situation? Honestly I am so lost. But their friendship is making me feel like crap about myself and I am unwilling to depend the next however many years continuing to feel like crap about myself.

OP posts:
rootypig · 28/04/2015 07:35

Goddamit can people remember that there is a person on the other end of this? Such unkind, hurtful comments.

AnyFucker · 28/04/2015 07:36

You ok, flap ?

what happened ?

If he sleeps with her then 1) he already was (not unlikely) or 2) he was going to anyway ( pretty likely)

take care Thanks

AnyFucker · 28/04/2015 07:37

Remember whatever happens, he has free choice

rootypig · 28/04/2015 07:38

And so do you ^^

AnyFucker · 28/04/2015 07:39

absolutely

Justusemyname · 28/04/2015 07:46

I hope you are okay, flap. Might be an idea to decide what is okay to happen while you are on this break and what isn't. Ie dating, having sex, etc etc. someone who is on a break from their spouse and wants them back and truly loves them certainly wouldn't be sleeping with anyone else, or having any oth intimate encounters. I don't mean discuss it with him btw. He should know. Take care.

popalot · 28/04/2015 07:49

Stay strong flapperty. Stick to your guns. This is about mutual respect; one person (you) can't give it all and the other just receive. He needs to give back.

ps. this other woman sounds like a total flake and a drain. If he has decided to keep her over a caring, giving woman like yourself then he has made his bed and will totally regret lying in it.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 28/04/2015 07:49

It maybe harsh and speculation. But this is a man who has a wife and kids, but is now on a break with from his wife, instead of actually realising he is taking the absolute piss already, its not a stretch to think that he will now see this as a green light to do what he wants.

Theres something keeping these two together than runs deeper than emotions.

OP deserves more than being the spare part.

RinkRashDerbyKisses · 28/04/2015 07:49

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Chuckitinthefuckitbucket · 28/04/2015 08:03

Read the thread. Well done for being so strong and confronting this. Goodness knows what he will do OP, but as hard as it is, why don't you have a think about what you want now?
I presume you're on a break due to him disagreeing with your view on their relationship? So basically he feels so strongly about relationship with ex that he'd rather go on a break than try to see your point of view/ put you first. Even if you could work it out with him now, do you want to?
Take control OP and stay strong. You sound wonderful and have put up with far more than I ever would. Flowers

ShizeItsWeegie · 28/04/2015 08:08

You are 100% right to feel the way you do Flapperty. I suspect he has got so used to having two wives (and the ego massage that goes with it) that he may have trouble giving her up but that is not your problem. I do want to add though that actually he is doing her no favours by being her 'rock' in this way. She is never going to live in the real world while he shelters her like this, not that you should give a tuppenny cuss about this but he sounds really deluded is what I am trying to say.
I would be going doolally in your shoes and you are dead right to get this sorted out now. He is taking the piss. I know you are partly responsible for allowing this but he is a grown man and should see he is treating you like a third rate person, not just be passive in having this pointed out to him!

Fairenuff · 28/04/2015 08:13

Well done OP. I'm guessing he left you no other choice, refused to give her up?

No surprises there then, you already knew that he was choosing her over you, this has just made him officially acknowledge it.

You were right to stick to your guns. You have done nothing wrong. All you have asked for is the respect that should automatically be yours anyway.

Is he moving out? Time apart really is best right now.

Stick with us, we'll help you through this x

HellKitty · 28/04/2015 08:22

Just read the thread Flap. Be strong. Don't give in.

Only1scoop · 28/04/2015 08:30

His 'business' with her was obviously none of your business as far as he was concerned. Lies and secrecy following the birth of your dc I wouldn't have been able to forgive.

What a foolish man

Thinking of you Op

Hidingmyidentity · 28/04/2015 08:30

Really sorry to hear that but you are totally doing the right thing. No one should have to be second best in their own marriage.

If your H doesn't come to his senses during this break then he didn't deserve you in the first place.

Joysmum · 28/04/2015 08:32

Really sorry to hear that but so glad you called him on it sooner rather than later. Best to know for sure where you both stand so you can either invest in the hope of making things better or give it up as not worth it. Flowers

Littleturkish · 28/04/2015 08:50

I'm so sorry to hear you're going through this.

You are worth more, no one deserves to be second best. He knows what he's doing, he is emotionally intelligent enough to read her needs- he is just blatantly ignoring yours. And that is cruel.

FlappertyFlippers · 28/04/2015 09:07

It was my choice to force the break. I explained it. He refused to try and get it. I explained some more of how I'm tired of feeling second best, he reassured me that me and the kids come first. It's not good enough. I've reached my limit and the time has come for me to be his ONLY.

He accused me of forcing him to make a choice between his family and his massively depressed friend who has just come out of an abusive relationship who needs his support through this tough time. My life is golden, her life is shit.

I 've had enough. I said I'm not going to wait for him to choose, I'm not going to force him to choose, as all that will happen is that he can then resent me for putting him in this position. He said what it boils down to is that I am making him choose.

I decided to take that choice away from him right there and then. I explained that actually it is going to be MY choice to end our relationship today, it is up to him if he decides he is willing to take measures to start salvaging it. But as of now we are on a break. He did not like hearing this and has stomed out.

OP posts:
hellsbellsmelons · 28/04/2015 09:12

Wow well done.
Soooooo many women on here wait and wait and wait for their 'D'H to make a choice. Leave it all up to them.
But you have done exactly the right thing and taken control of your life.
I hope you get the outcome you want at some point soon.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 28/04/2015 09:13

You've done what I wish I did 6 years ago when I was in this situation.

Well done for holding firm. Especially against his tantrum.

InfiniteJest · 28/04/2015 09:15

I really admire how you handled that conversation. I expect he thought he could talk his way out of it, so well done for not allowing that. How are you feeling now?

Lacoba66 · 28/04/2015 09:20

You are not "forcing him to choose", you have nearly laid out your boundaries and refuses to acknowledge them as valid.

I had something very similar with a now EXp- it took him 2years to 'get' that it was unhealthy. When he finally broke contact (his choice) he was gobsmacked that she was engaged within 8 months.

For what it's worth, I believe you are doing the right thing, because whatever his motives are, his responsibility is to HIS family.

petalsandstars · 28/04/2015 09:22

Hopefully this is the shock to his system - if not - please tell your own support network in rl to help you through the next days/weeks etc Flowers

FantasticButtocks · 28/04/2015 09:24

Well done for taking control! He is being a total arse about this and I think it is fantastic that you took the choice away from him and made your position absolutely clear. Now he can stew on it and decide where his priorities lie.

If it was simply a matter of supporting someone having a difficult time, then you could have been included, been part of the recovery team...but no, he has been getting something out of this situation. He has put a relationship with another person before his relationship with his own wife, and now the consequences of that are coming down on him, giving him plenty to think about. Very well done for calling a halt to this hurtful behaviour.

winkywinkola · 28/04/2015 10:38

What a jerk. I can't believe he stormed off. Well, actually I can.

Why do she so important to him?

You've got balls Flap. Well done.