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HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 4

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WellWhoKnew · 23/03/2015 00:51

If you are struggling to come to terms with the ending of your marriage, no matter how that came about, this is the place where you come to say SHIT THIS IS HARD, when you hit those times of despair.

It is the place where it is never rude to interrupt if you're having a bad day and need to vent. No matter what.

The bar, owned by Hobbit, but run by committee, is open to all as we wind our way through divorce, come to terms with our individual circumstances, or just cope with adjusting to a new life.

My name is WellWhoKnew (known here as everyone's bloody mother!). I was suddenly abandoned nearly eleven months ago. I've just had the final hearing (finished five days ago) and I am now officially an ex-wife. I now have to start making plans for a very different future than I ever imagined, which includes moving home, getting a job, and leaving the deadwood behind.

It is the place where the only thing anyone will tell you to do is keep on, keeping on.

Part three

Part two

Part one

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Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 17:22

Thanks all for your kind words and good advice, our mascot is knackered after a walk down the woods;,

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yougotafriend · 09/04/2015 17:28

Can I order a large vodka please.

5 mths ago I walked out on my home, EA husband & DSs .... After 5 mths of continually telling people "I'm fine" I have realised I'm not

1ali3 · 09/04/2015 18:51

yougotafriend welcome but am stuck for words of advice. What I have learnt over the last few months myself and from these dear ladies though is that it's normal for emotions to be a roller coaster considering what we are going through. Some days, I would say I am definitely not alright too. Hopefully someone else will post words of wisdom and more practical advice soon.

Ww1 great advice as always. I have withdrawn from anything social recently as I haven't felt like it tbh and I'm worried I'll bloody well start to cry. New friends and things to do would be good. I might explore the meet up website. Funnily enough I'm about to cancel a coffee meet up tomorrow. Can't trust myself. Went to docs today for something routine and they took my blood pressure. Any reason why it might be high at the moment do you think?? I muttered something about kids home from uni and almost ran for the door. I just know I can't say those words 'my husband and I are separating' without it becoming an unsightly drama. I've just typed them and the tears are welling. Bloody hell.

izzie how's the tooth? Gone?? Hope you are feeling not too bad...

Pizzas - just me and DCs - tonight Smile

A glorious evening here. Glass of wine in garden me thinks. Wine

Jess looking as cute as ever.Star

1ali3 · 09/04/2015 18:54

With regards the thread - my vote is for WWK too Smile

Maybe a bit further down the road I'll be in a position to volunteer. At present I think I'd have you all running for the Samaritans.....

TheOldWiseOne · 09/04/2015 19:22

Showing my daftness here - what is KOKO? Also can I have a tequila shot Pls?

Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 19:31

Hi 1, didn't know you lived in God's own country!
I knew we were kindred spirits, apart from having complete twats as husbands as well of course [ grin]
Another vote for ' mother ' here, < waves pom-poms > that's if she wants to do it of course, she may have got tired of our shenanigans, and feels in need of a break.

Just a shout out to Green , hope you're doing ok my lovely, just give us a wave now and again, x

So,tired today, hope I get some sleep tonight, still anxious, countdown until Tuesday.......

Izzie595 · 09/04/2015 19:38

1 I found it really difficult letting people know. As he left end October I did the extended family in the Xmas cards. Texted other friends and work friends. And asked them to keep it quiet so I could maintain normality as far as possible at work. I remember I had to tell a few people at work, and I physically couldn't do it, words wouldn't come out.

Dentist sent me to A&E as I complained about blocked airways. And the hospital extracted the tooth. So relieved, it was really quick

I've been physically very bad the last few days, and I found it really difficult him not being here. But it also showed, I think, how much he had checked out. I had a cry a little while ago, kids were breaking Easter eggs that he gave them. And I just thought, this should be like this, their absent dad etc. DS1 was right, he said he's not worth it mum, he didn't try, and every time it all got too much, he just buggered off. Yes. Once he had someone lined up always there ready to take him and to stir things, that was it sealed. Nonetheless, it was a sad moment, I think because I'm physically low. I will be back to MEH Izzie soon, I hope. Please!!!

WWK my vote Smile
And yes I'd forgotten just how many women have health problems post separation

Hobbit, that lovely mascot picture is very Izzie at the moment

Hello to everyone else, will catch up soon xx

Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 20:00

So glad you're feeling better. Izzie, you're right about the health aspect as well, the prolonged stress causes all sorts of problems. I have had to have my bp medication doubled in strength to cope with the increased blood pressure.

Glad you liked the pic, Smile

Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 20:18

Thanks so much, WWK for your points to raise at mediation, I will copy them all down in my notebook to take with me, and think of you, and all the lovely ladies on this thread, and that will give me some measure of courage.

Thanks also to lovely Bobs who I have hounded about the mediation process, to try to take away some of the fear of it. He is quite an overbearing and arrogant twunt, and very used to getting his own way, and that's why he thinks he is always right, he thinks he can dictate whats appropriate for me and my son. So a big thank you to you Bobsy, for guiding me through.

Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 20:20

I do still think of drifting, are you still lurking out there in the ether my love? I hope you are happy, whatever you chose to do, x

bobs123 · 09/04/2015 20:27

Always happy to help Hobbit with my limited knowledge - makes me feel good to be of any use Smile

Perhaps you could imagine a big cardboard cutout of WWK in-between you and him at the meeting. Anything pompous that comes out of his mouth can just bounce off her!!!!!! Perhaps it could be electrified and every time he says something stupid he gets a massive shock (ok - brain's working overtime now Grin )

Rozalia · 09/04/2015 20:31

So this might be why my pulse has been verging on tachycardia. I often have a resting pulse of around 100 beats per minute, for the last few months. I can hear it thundering away when I lie in bed. Usually I have a good heart rate. My bp has gone into mild hypertension too, usually it is very low.

Bastard man.

Well I've been doing aerobic exercise every day but one for the last week, hopefully that will help.

I've also had some painful attacks of gastritis. And a twitching eye when I think about twunt. Not that that is a health complaint, just a sign of stress.

I'm glad to hear your dr took swift action, Izzie, hopefully you'll soon have a pain free mouth again.

WellWhoKnew · 09/04/2015 20:45

Welcome Yougotafriend to our little bar. Drinks are on the house, crying is free. It sounds like you made a very tough decision - and it's not something you're just going to 'get over' in a heartbeat, let alone five months. May I ask a question? What help/support have you made use of so far? (None is fine as an answer!) It's easy to pretend to all and sundry that all's 'fine' - the "faking it til you make it" approach but to be honest that can be very counter-productive, when actually what you need is a lot of friendly, non-judgemental support that reminds you THIS SHIT IS HARD! Help come in many guises from friend's/family's ears, doctors, counsellors, solicitors, Women's Aid, Right's of Women, MN and the members of Hobbit's Bar. Let us know if there's anything you think we can help you on specifically. If not, have a barnstormingly good rant. We're good like that - rants are considered healthy here.

ali, Is your blood pressure is high because you're a drama llama Wink - no didn't think so. That is the most objective indicator you've got that THIS SHIT IS HARD. With every single stage often the fear of it is worse than the doing of it, if that makes sense. And to hell if you burst into tears when you tell people you're separating. Not a single person told me 'don't cry' and it remains one of my biggest regrets I didn't tell people sooner. People can't help until they know. Most people are fantastic even when I dribbled snot on their shoulders. Just so you know!

Izzie I've been wondering if you've been overdoing it for a while, so this enforced (albeit painful!) rest is your body's way of saying 'nuff for now'. I get migraines these days (about twice a month if not more), which is something I'd barely get twice a year in my old life. This pressure cooker existence does take it's toll after a while, so it's little wonder you've had a bit of backwards step. Have a good cry, a good moan and a good rest (and a few fags!).

roz I got a twitching eye as well! Walking 'round winking at everyone when I already felt like a social pariah probably tipped me over the edge!

Right. I'm falling off the wagon tonight just so you know. I'm fed up with being worried about the future and I'm sick to death of job-hunting and getting nowhere. It's been an odd day - had a stroke of fortune - literally someone knocked on the door and said 'can I buy that?' to something I own so I sold it for a good price. Got a very thoughtful present from MrsC, who is still dealing with fuckwittery, I'm sad to report. The fuckwittery that is - I'm not sad about the thoughtful present! Rather delighted as it goes.

Then car broke down. Shiney new car is still in garage (broke down just before Easter) so I'm having a pity party for one [am hiding in wine cellar so you'll all just have to raid bar yourselves!]. And I know these are minor issues, compared to what I've survived, but I've decided I'm having a WWK-self endorsed meltdown with my own permission. So there.

As for this thread. I am more than happy to keep propping up the bar. I get something out of passing on the support and advice that I got so kindly from other MNetters behind the scenes when things were tough for me. One of the things I love about this thread though is that it has a real community feel with different OPs, so after thread five, someone can think of taking the baton on then perhaps?

And hello to old friends who have previously been regulars, as always KOKO (which means Keep on keeping on), which is far more succinct than:

WYAGTHKG!

Work that one out cryptic fans!

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Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 20:46

More Jess, for Izzie and her dodgy dental trauma, Sad

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Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 20:54

' when you are going through hell, keep going' do I win a prize? ;)

greenberet · 09/04/2015 21:04

Evening ladies just been catching up -hello to the new ones

I had a funny experience today shopping with the dd and heard our theme tune in a shop - I take this to be a message that we are all going to be ok!
For those of you struggling with moving on I would second the meet up groups when I was left I sat & thought about what I really wanted to do and it was dance so I joined a dance class -going somewhere where nobody new about me and having a laugh was like having a holiday - most of the women knew exactly where I was coming from when I started talking about my situation.

If any of you read my old posts you will see I have been on the floor on many occasion but the message has finally got through that none of this is to do with me - I have spoken to all the people well has suggested Drs counsellor, women's aid, read anything & everything on EA but I have got to the Meh stage. I also have a very nice hunk of a distraction! Not at all on my agenda but it happened - Karma is doing its stuff!

Ladies all I can say is keep going - believe that none of this is down to you and things will slowly change. I am not at the end nisi being announced next week, court process underway and twunt is now playing silly buggers with contact arrangements. Didn't want to be bothered with any of the stuff I sent him to do with kids and how he had to talk to them but the proof is in the pudding so they say!

Koko!! Xx

Hobbitwife001 · 09/04/2015 21:17

Awwww.. Green! Great to hear you are doing so well Smile
Gonna put on me dancing shoes now! KOKO babe, x

yougotafriend · 09/04/2015 21:47

Thanks for the warm welcome.... I have loads of support in RL a couple of completely non judgemental friends and a sister I couldn't live without. I know they're all there for me, I just haven't utilised them..... Until now!!!

I have also been looking into the freedom programme, trying to find one in the evening as I work ft. My employer has a counselling service too, I've been for an initial assessment today..... So I am certainly not floundering now that I've finally admitted I need help, it seems the biggest hurdle was my own denial !!!

iwashappy · 09/04/2015 21:58

Shit this is hard. Can I have a double Izzietini please to go with the bottle of wine I've already had Sid's sailed off into the sunset with Miss Choosy-Floozy on holiday tonight and it hurts like hell.

1ali3 · 09/04/2015 22:08

green I know you are not at the end yet- is there ever 'an end'?? However, it's lovely to know that Karma is indeed alive and well. Smile

wwk I think you deserve a visit to the wine cellar. I've never heard the phrase 'drama llama'. Have to say, I'm probably a lot of things but you're right, I avoid drama at all costs. Probably why the fear of saying those words has taken hold somewhat. Blood pressure wasn't stupidly high but it's normally low. I feel pretty well physically -other than the exhaustion - but I absolutely understand how all this stress makes people ill.

Hope you're ok Roz? I developed occasional eye twitch thing too a few years ago. Very intermittent thankfully - worse when tired.

hobbit Yes, lived at a variety of places in Wales from really far west to not so west with time in the 'big smoke' in between. This time of year it's hard to imagine any where more beautiful. Dragged DCs out for a walk tonight - even they commented how lucky we were to live here - not that the oldest 2 won't be pleased to head off at weekend. I'll miss them [sad ].

Another day done. Glad your tooth pain resolving Izzie. Look after yourself.

Try to sleep well all xx

1ali3 · 09/04/2015 22:35

iwas Are they flying? Chaos at airports apparently - air traffic control strikes. Hopefully karma will do its thing. Flowers

WellWhoKnew · 10/04/2015 00:05

Back again.

Hobbit you win a prize....not sure what the prize is, but you definitely win it! Take a leaf out of Jess' book and get some good zzzzz into the sleep bank tonight. xx

Green fabulous to hear from you - and being so much more positive. Please keep updating periodically with news, because you're making tremendous progress that you can really inspire the rest of us. If ever there was a reason for women to read 'Hobbit's Bar' from the beginning - it's you. Utterly delighted for you.

Yougotafriend Well done you for going 'help!'. Keep going now. The hardest thing, as the cliche goes, is asking for help. The second hardest thing is accepting real help. The third hardest thing is rejected 'help' that doesn't help. Try all kinds of help, until something helps. Great move. Keep going.

Iwas - a really, really, really tough day. I'm not going to try to pretend otherwise or say anything platitudinous but I hope that it's a shit holiday for them. KOKO.

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WellWhoKnew · 10/04/2015 01:09

A little project, rough around the edges, but might as well put it here:

IF you can keep your head when all about you
He loses his and blames it on you,
IF you can trust yourself when he doubts you,
But accept his excuses for his doubt too
IF you can wait and not be tired of waiting,
Of being lied to, and being lied about.
Of being hated, but also self-hating.

IF you can dream, but not let him them master,
IF you can think, and not allow “he says”,
IF you can meet with your master and say:
“You’re an imposter, I’m not insane”
Twisted by knives, accept he trapped you,
And watch the things you gave your life to: broken.
Then stoop but yet build up again, despite your tool.

IF you can make one heap of all your ‘winnings’
And risk it on one turn, then learn not to give a toss.
He says “you lose”. So start again at the beginning.
But never breathe a word. Because you’re already winning.
If he can force his heart to treat you like spew
To serve his long lust; be glad they are gone
And so, hold on, you think there’s nothing in you,
Except the will: he's totally wrong.

If you can talk with us, and keep your virtue
Or walk with ‘them’, but not lose your own touch,
IF neither foes nor loving friends can save you,
IF you can counter each fuckwittery moment,
Then yours is freedom and life beyond it.
And more, it makes you a real WOMAN.

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whyMe2014 · 10/04/2015 01:23

WWK...a self induced meltdown...no probs...you decided you wanted it, you decided when and you'll decide when you come out. Not a twunt in sight.
Alternatively...add some dairy and it's a cheese and wine party for one.

WYAGTHKG....I'm going to be up all night on this one.

Iwas...perhaps he'll lose his bag at the airport...although I doubt it because she's had her bloody claws into him for a long time.

Green...great news...so pleased for you. Perhaps there is Karma after all.

Hobbit...just loving the pics of Jess.

Izzie...hope you're feeling better.

yogotafriend...I would recommend the Freedom programme. If you can't get on one buy the book.

Plus I thought it was just me with the eye twitching. How strange is that.

whyMe2014 · 10/04/2015 01:28

WWK....Looks like we're all real women on here then.

xx