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Shocked by 'friend's reaction to my happy news. How to respond. If at all!

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UptownFunk · 11/12/2014 20:13

DH and I have been TTC a fair while, and got a sticky one at the end of August. We had been open to friends who asked if we were wanting a sibling for dc1, so people knew we were trying.

I preferred to keep our news to ourselves until the anomaly scan at 20 weeks, telling people only if things were good then. I'm not showing under winter clothes so no one had guessed.
My 'friend' lives in another country, so I don't actually see her in person, but we email a lot, Skype, have loads in common. She considers me her best (pretty much only) friend. Her initial reaction when I told her was as one would hope : congratulations, wow, really happy for you etc.

I'm now reeling from the email she sent me two days after we told her.

"If it were me, and I got pregnant after trying for so long, I would have told you the day I learned I was expecting. I can't imagine keeping such momentous news from you. What would possess me to withhold it from you, I can't imagine. For 4 months to boot. Me thinking, shame they haven't gotten pregnant yet, and for 4 months or so, you've been pregnant all along! Now I've had some time for it to settle in, I think our "friendship" is bullshit. Makes me wonder what other major life events or things you are withholding from me. If you can keep this from me, imagine what else you can withhold from me! So you might have had a miscarriage and not even told me? You might have had to decide to terminate your pregnancy and not shared that with me? Wooooowwwwwww"

I replied briefly saying I'm sorry she felt like that, but that I had wanted to have our privacy for a while, and wait for the anomaly scan, as is quite normal, I hope she understood and could just be happy for me.

She replied:
"No. I don't understand at all. Glad you are happy."

This was yesterday, and I haven't replied.
Should I just ignore til she talks some sense into herself and apologises, or what? I'm really annoyed she has pissed on my parade. This is such a happy time for DH and me (and dc1), and she's gone and reacted like this. She has three children, no conception issues, so it's nothing to do with anything like that. She's just hacked off I didn't tell her straight away. She is being unreasonable, right?

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SparkleZilla · 11/12/2014 23:07

My 'best friend' didn't tell me until she was about 12ish weeks, I thought she had been ignoring me before and was quite upset

She's just a friend now, not my best friend
it makes me sad, but if we weren't close enough for her to tell me sooner then ... I guess we weren't as close as I thought

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Mandatorymongoose · 11/12/2014 23:10

She sounds lonely.

If it were me then I would be extending an olive branch of sorts. I would explain how much she meant to me and reassure her she is the person I really wanted to share my news with. I wouldn't apologise for not telling her before and I would say that I was hurt by her reaction as telling people was something you'd been waiting a while to do and you were wanting to share happiness not get into conflict.

She's happy for you about the pregnancy and this shouldn't sully your news in any way.

She's sad because she's worried you don't care about her as much as she thought / as much as she cares about you. Even though you don't see immediately sharing the highs and lows with the people you care about as a measure of friendship she obviously does and it's that mismatch in the value of sharing that is causing the issue.

I totally understand why you're annoyed but if she is someone you value just let her know that. Lots of people need a little gentle reassurance they matter now and then, especially if they're already separated by distance and busy lives.

but I'm a big softy so feel free to ignore me

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Catzeyess · 11/12/2014 23:17

Congratulations op Smile

Tbh I think I would have been hurt too.

It's a massive part of your life you kept secret for 4 months - despite talking regularly. Esspecially if your were being open about ttc/she was supporting you struggling.

I don't get the secrecy around pregnancy with close friends family - if something had gone wrong would you not have wanted her support if she is your closest friend besides your dh.

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IAmNotAPrincessIAmAKahleesi · 11/12/2014 23:18

I think she sound very selfish and I think you should be reassessing the friendship rather than her

I can see how she might feel, but to send you a ranting email and try to ruin your news and make it all about her is just awful

And of course some things are private no matter how close you might be, no one owes anyone regular updates about every part of their lives

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Blu · 11/12/2014 23:20

I couldn't be friends with someone like this. Friends respect each others need for privacy, or waiting for the right moment. Friends do not take things personally, or take measurements of each others friendship. I couldn't bear to have someone tallying up whether they would have told me and is that sooner than would have told them, and who cares most about the other.... Friends understand when someone is too busy to Skype for a while without taking it as a personal slight...it's just life.

I see nothing wrong in replying: tell her how upset and reeling you are by her reaction. How much you care about her and you don't see your friendship as a competition in how much each other disclose. She has form for ending friendships - if she chooses to end this one, well, very sad.

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Blu · 11/12/2014 23:22

I didn't tell anyone until after 12 weeks, not even my Mum.

Do I not care about her, just because I didn't say?

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saintlyjimjams · 11/12/2014 23:23

I have missed some posts but from what I've read I can sort of see how she feels. My best friend from college & I were ttc at the same time & talked about it a lot. She suddenly went a bit silent on me & evasive & I guessed something may have happened but she didn't tell me until 12 weeks.

I was a bit Sad to be honest - although I said all the right things, but I would have told her has it been the other way round & it did make me think we weren't as close as I thought we were - or at least she wasn't as close to me as I thought she was. We had been talking about ttc constantly though.

I think she's bonkers to have sent her email but I think she's sent it because she's feeling that she doesn't mean as much to you as she thought. You may see the whole sharing news thing differently. I would let it blow over - it's not worth losing a friend over.,

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SinisterBuggyMonth · 11/12/2014 23:34

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ToomanyChristmasPresents · 11/12/2014 23:42

I don't agree that close friendship means you need to share something as personal and private as conception with anyone except your partner until you are ready. That is an intimacy between you and your partner.

I wouldn't expect anyone to tell me until they are ready, not even my own sisters.

How far were you supposed to go? Give a heads up every time you had unprotected sex? Have her on standby when you peed on a stick? Skype her for the 12 week scan? For heaven's sake. Surely there is a distinction between a spouse and a friend. Boundaries people.

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Tobyjugg · 11/12/2014 23:42

Either she was drunk or she is unhinged. No other explanation is possible.

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vitabrits · 11/12/2014 23:42

I'd find her behaviour irritating, and I really don't think I could be bothered discussing it with her.

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springydaffs · 11/12/2014 23:57

Those who are saying she's mental, making it all about her, OTT, needy etc are expecting her to be British.

We have strict social rules here... But EVERY country has strict social rules. You've broken hers and she's broken yours.

That's aside from personal 'rules' regardless of culture. I wouldn't be offended that she was upset but I WOULD be offended that she
was attacking. But that's because I am British and we view anyone who does that as unhinged.

Ime (lots of close exposure to many different cultures) these things are hard to recover from, there is hurt and offense on both sides.

Add to the mix that she had a disordered childhood - the effects of that are universal - and she probably finds it hard to trust. Maybe she's told you every single thing about her life, an open book (boundary confusion, par for the course for people with disordered childhoods) and she is horrified you didn't in turn share something so central. For months and months.

I'm not siding with her. I don't know if your friendship will recover though. Which is sad. The likelihood of something going wrong with all those variables was high. As she has previously experienced...

If you want to have a stab at retrieving your friendship you could channel her and shoot from the hip back. I don't see you have anything to lose tbh.

Congratulations btw Xmas Smile

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however · 12/12/2014 00:18

Your friendship is bullshit? I'd leave it. she owes you an apology. You owe her nothing. You certainly don't owe her pregnancy news at a time she deems appropriate.

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however · 12/12/2014 00:20

Or miscarriage/termination news, for that matter.

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batteryhen · 12/12/2014 00:29

I'm 23 weeks pg and live abroad. Some of my friends at home don't know yet. Just because you are friends with someone doesn't mean you have to divulge everything!
I would reply 'dear friend, you are absolutely right......our friendship is bullshit.' Bye.

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WhitePhantom · 12/12/2014 01:13

I'm genuinely baffled that anyone would WANT to keep such big news a secret from the people closest to them. I can see why she's so hurt.

It's not that you 'have' to share, or that you're 'expected' to tell people everything... but such a huge happy event in your life and you don't WANT to share it with the people who are closest to you - I can't understand that.

Would you find it strange and hurtful if a friend got engaged and kept it a secret? Or landed a brilliant job and kept it a secret? Or any of the other big events that happen in people's lives? Nobody's 'obliged' to tell you about any of these things, but choosing to keep them secret would strike me as slightly bizarre.

If I thought that I meant a lot to someone but then they kept something so huge a secret from me, I'd definitely feel that I didn't mean much to them after all.

I wouldn't send an email like she sent. But yes, I would feel very very hurt.

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Coyoacan · 12/12/2014 03:31

First of all, congratulations, OP.

But secondlyl, why can't needy people have friends?

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Legodino · 12/12/2014 06:42

So there you go OP. The vote isn't 100% in her favour or your favour either. So it seems you are both at fault and both have some leg work to clear the air.

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however · 12/12/2014 06:42

Why are you baffled WhitePhantom? The answer is quite clearly in black and white in the OP. It's not unheard of for people to wait until after the anomaly scan.

No one knew I was expecting twins until 30 weeks, apart from my husband and doctor. My nearest and dearest clearly don't hold a grudge.

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Legodino · 12/12/2014 06:46

Can't you just email her back and say that while it didn't occur to tell anyone, you are really sorry you've accidentally upset her in the process and that you treasure your friendship with her

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Legodino · 12/12/2014 06:49

My best friends have always told me as soon as they got a positive pregnancy test. Wider friendships groups around here including those who have had miscarriages usually wait till 12 week. Acquaintances usually 20 weeks. That's all I've ever known but obviously everyone can do what ever they like.

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listed · 12/12/2014 06:49

What a bitch. The friendship would be over for me.

Is she always so self obsessed?

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FrogIsATwatInASantaHat · 12/12/2014 07:07

Half of you are bonkers. If she had slept with ops husband -bitch
Stolen from op - bitch
Overreact to news and sent dramatic email?
Well that makes her a bitch, unhinged and mental according to these posts. Nice
Really nice..

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MokunMokun · 12/12/2014 07:13

I understand how you feel too OP. With my last pregnancy I didnt even tell my husband until after 12 weeks and no one else until around 20 weeks. I had also had 2 miscarriages but never told anyone except DH and the doctor. I think it really depends on the person and how they feel about these things and how much they want to share. <br /> <br /> I have friends who share intimate details of their sex life but I prefer to keep such things private. Theres no right or wrong here. Different people have different feelings about these things.

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listed · 12/12/2014 07:49

My bf told me last week she was pg. 21 weeks. Bless her she felt guilty that she'd gone so far without saying anything! The reason being she's had a tough time of it medically and wasn't sure if it was a go-er.

My reaction? I was thrilled for her, and sad that she'd had to go through the stress of the first 21 weeks alone.

I'm now annoying her by texting every day telling her to take it easy.

OP's friend, take note.

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