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Dear NSTBXH

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WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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WellWhoKnew · 31/01/2015 10:51

You too? Sucks, don't it.

Yes, were he not an immature fucker, this adult would be more accepting about things. But he is, so I'm not.

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MrsC1969HJ · 31/01/2015 11:12

Urgh. There are no words.

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 31/01/2015 13:24

I'm surprised you can stay so reasonable is the face of his sustained fuckwittery.

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 31/01/2015 13:25

*in not is

WellWhoKnew · 31/01/2015 15:13

Fortified by gin, I am invincible!

Total mad angry wife...when sober. Unfortunately there's a legal system so I can't be anything other than reasonable. I would be a lunatic if I thought I could get away with it and if I wasn't so afraid of being put in an asylum.

But we all have our own forms of cowardice, which is rather fortunate for MrSW!

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CruCru · 31/01/2015 15:32

Isn't he under oath still? Contacting you when he isn't allowed to contact his legal team sounds a bit dodgy.

Jux · 31/01/2015 17:28

Everything about him seems a bit dodgy! If he's done a thing, it's bound to be dodgy Grin

thiskiwicanfly · 01/02/2015 22:41

Look out Mr SW - this is not going to go well for you.

Yahooo WWK - wish I could send gin to keep you sane (and not quite sober) over the next few months.

Perhaps we need gin dispensers placed in specified locations for MNers who are going through divorce and dealing with other fuckwittery. A map could be hidden somewhere on the site...

I could have used it when dealing with my extard

Smuckers · 01/02/2015 22:47

WWK - finally joined up and de-lurking to say I've read your posts in awe. Probably doesn't feel awesome at all right now for you, but the gin will help - shotgun may be better. Chin up, head down and the good gals always win in the end.

TheUnforbidableWWK · 02/02/2015 23:42

Dear STBXH,

I am feeling charitable. I know that I like being charitable: I get a sense of 'goodness' about it. So when posters come up with utterly brilliant ideas such as "gincaching" I think: there goes a charity I could 'chug' with utmost motivation and persistence.

However, you, my nearly ex 'man' are a complete fuckwit.

And like all people I can chose who I am charitable to.

Which is most people. But not you.

You see, when you make an offer to the court, you just look like a cunt for then changing it a few weeks later. Especially when you change it downward when it comes to putting it in writing.

It's so much better to change it upward, as we did mine on the day, given some of your more interesting disclosures.

We ain't going to Loserville no more. You're on your own there.

Now please fuck off with fuckwittery.

Woman, having a dry (sense of humour) February.

TheFormidableMrsC · 02/02/2015 23:53

Oh holy hell....he is surely consulting with Mr WT?! Surely? There must be a school of idiocy for ex-twats who think they can beat the system. Look forward to hearing about this one Flowers x

shadowfax07 · 03/02/2015 08:54

Loving the name changes, WWK and MrsC!

TheBullyWWK · 03/02/2015 10:39

Dear STBXH,

Thank you for your many emails this morning. I particularly smirked at being told I was 'harrassing' you, when I in fact sent you two emails, one as I've been court-ordered to, as insisted by you, and a second in response to yet another bill you wish me to pay.

The fact that, you have sent six, is perhaps, skewing my perception a little.

So let me give you a bit of two and six.

Firstly

  1. I did not call you a cunt in either of them.
  2. But I still think you're an arse.

Secondly

  1. I am not bullying you. I cannot do this as the weaker party. I can only stand up for my rights, which I am trying to do.

  2. You cannot write to my solicitor to tell me to behave myself. We've explained this in simple terms to you before. I am not misbehaving myself now. I have been a very good WWK for over nine months now.

  3. We have dealt with the chattels. You failed to communicate what you have done with your chattels despite repeated attempts via my solicitors to get you to do so, legitimately, and under the court's frosty gaze.

  4. You are not allowed legal advice under oath so don't threaten me with 'I'll talk to my lawyer'. You can't.

  5. We are in litigation hell, both of us. Therefore both of us 'owe full and frank disclosure to the court'. You have a problem with this. I don't.

  6. So if you think I'm a bully, then have a little think: A bully misuses their power to exploit a weaker party. The sacked, unemployed, dependent spouse (of either gender), may not have access to the finances, but it does not make them suppliant according to Ward LJ. It just allows them to have equal rights.

Something your sense of entitlement refuses to acknowledge.

Woman, with rights. Just the same as yours. So fuck off out of my inbox.

GirlDownUnder · 03/02/2015 11:15

Hello WWK

You must be so very, very tired of this odious little man. I do hope though, that's he's far more vexed with you, not enough to bring on his DROP DEAD ANY MINUTE NOW heart condition, but! only 5 minutes after you've finished with him.

I also hope for the sake of your inbox that you've given he who should be gone a nice little email name that will at least make your lips curve - in a smile, derision, contempt or grimace. Any or all would do.

(Another) Lurker in admiration.

TheFormidableMrsC · 03/02/2015 12:21

TheBullyWWK - ha ha ha, love this one even better! No, for God's sake don't call him the "c" word, look what happened to me when I made that mistake under extreme duress...and the psychological damage that I inflicted on Mr WT, the OW and indeed, her 8 year old son. I have no idea how they cope on a day to day basis...I should be in Holloway...

Every day I am rendered further speechless (if that is indeed possible) by the actions of Mr SW. He really is the most deluded, entitled little man. Why can't he simply do as he's told? I hope his lawyer hangs up...as she should. Tosser.

WellWhoKnew · 03/02/2015 12:46

I have, indeed, changed his name, so it comes in with a different name. Despite being a mature, intelligent, responsible adult, I do have a childish side.

I have changed it to his Christian name, which he hates. I also used that name all the way through the court hearing. Because 'detach and survive' is a great book.

I promise you Mrsc, I will not call him a cunt directly, I learn from the best!!!

Are you sure we shouldn't be in Broadmoor though? (According to them?)

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DistanceCall · 03/02/2015 12:54

Hello WWK,

another delurker bowing in admiration to your endurance, courage, stamina, intelligence, and wit.

Just one thing - I thought this idiot wasn't meant to contact you any further? Perhaps you should forward each and every one of his emails to your lawyers...?

WellWhoKnew · 03/02/2015 13:02

He's not distance. Unfortunately, Mr Cognitive Arseholiance himself has decreed otherwise and therefore he has decided to:

a) write to my solicitor directly to complain about me
b) write to me directly to complain about me
c) possibly write to the the Times and sign it 'Outraged but not from Tunbridge Wells' too
d) write to anyone else who doesn't give a shiny shit.

There's not much I can do except hit 'delete' or hit the gin. But I'm in Dry February (see how contrary I am!). So delete it is.

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DistanceCall · 03/02/2015 13:04

Oh FFS. Seem's rather intent on digging his own hole, doesn't he?

Well, I can only recommend that you sit back sipping your gin and watch as the shit hits the eventual fan. As it will.

Jux · 03/02/2015 13:09

I have a lovely big spade he can have.....

WellWhoKnew · 03/02/2015 13:09

PS even solicitor resorted to Wine when dealing with his fuckwittery. It is truly astonishing at times.

Now, of course, he can't abuse me through the legal system, he has reverted to directly.

It ends. I know it does. It's just getting to when. I've a feeling February is going to be a very long month.

Ironically.

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DistanceCall · 03/02/2015 13:12

Delete is your friend, yes. Just keep thinking that the end of the tunnel is within sight now. But God, he's a tiresome little shit.

HootyMcTooty · 03/02/2015 14:25

Hi Mr SW .

I know WWK can't call you a cunt, but I can. You're a cunt. Mwah ha ha ha ha.

WWK. I think you're brilliant. Sorry he's still being such a shit.

Meerka · 03/02/2015 14:29

WWK are you printing out the mails for the solicitor so that they can be submitted to court? If he's breaking the court directions by contacting you for anything other than offers, then that's not on.

WellWhoKnew · 03/02/2015 14:40

I know Meerka, I know. To be honest though, I don't think the obligation is on me anymore to prove to GG the level of cognitive arseholiance I have suffered so there's little point.

I think he's done that very well all by himself and we still might have round two to go...

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