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Dear NSTBXH

991 replies

WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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CruCru · 03/02/2015 14:52

He's not doing a very good job of this getting divorced business, is he?

WellWhoKnew · 03/02/2015 15:02

I believe I may have mentioned that to him directly, Cru, which I am annoyed about as why should I give him the benefit of my sensible opinion?

He left. He has no entitlement to it. The fact that I gave it away for free was stupid of me.

As it just means I will get more incoming today...

That delete button is going to be well used for the foreseeable. I may be ranting here for some time...

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UptheChimney · 03/02/2015 16:09

Don't delete his emails I'm sure you're not ! Keep, and show to the court. Surely, he's breaking the requirements of the Court?

I hear that contempt of Court generally leads to a prison sentence ...

Jux · 03/02/2015 17:22

Please don't delete them. Shove them in a nice out of the way folder, but keep them. You may still need them.

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 03/02/2015 17:31

I agree with Chimney and Jux. Keep them somewhere safe. They might just come in handy for leverage if you need it.

Paperblank · 03/02/2015 18:24

Also agreeing that you should keep the emails.

Don't delete them, don't respond. I would however mention his (mis)communication to you to your legal eagles. The last time you didn't tell them about something they said you were a Very Naughty WWK Grin

CookieDoughKid · 03/02/2015 21:34

MR SW - YOU'RE DESPERATE AND WE KNOW IT Grin

WWK - Don't fret. Don't stress. The more SW antagonises, the more he feels he is being threatened and trapped. He's absolutely desperate and shitting himself.

WellWhoKnew · 04/02/2015 01:06

Dear STBXH,

Please don't decree I make an appointment with my solicitor. Just so you know, I have taken the collective advice here and filed your emails of this week in the FYI Folder.

I'm not in the mood for tea right now. Maybe I'll feel differently next week. Maybe not. Can't decide. I'll have a think about it in a fortnight or so. Or perhaps tomorrow. Oh, no maybe not tomorrow. Anyway, I'll have a think about it some point.

And when sHL can muster up something by way of ODFOD in legaltastic terms you can understand, please do.

In the interim,

Fuck You Idiot. You're filed until further notice.

Woman.

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Belleende · 04/02/2015 08:30

No no. You must keep them. They will make up appendix 3 of your book. No commentary, just the e mails with the legal status of that date indicated (e.g. on this date STBXH threatened to take legal advice, in direct contravention to court order blah blah of the 20 the Jan). Should bump up your page count a bit.
And one day when you are sitting round your kitchen table with some girlfriends and lots of wine, you will pull them out, read excerpts in a killer impression of XH and you will shit yourself laughing.

Anniegetyourgun · 04/02/2015 09:39

So, in the process of divorce, your soon to be ex husband has instructed you to make an appointment with your solicitor. He seems to think this is a reasonable and logical thing to do. Maybe on his planet perhaps...

Is he perchance trying to sneak some legal advice in from your experts because he has been forbidden to contact his own? Or just trying to tell you that you have clearly got something wrong and you need to get legal advice to explain it to you so you end up doing the right thing, ie what he has decreed? No matter. Either way, the cognitive arseholiance continues in full spate.

XH started asking me to ask my solicitor stuff. I pointed out that I was paying for a solicitor to represent my interests as opposed to his - he would have to get his own. Nasty shock to the system that was. I really think he expected me to work on his side of the divorce as well as mine. Confused

WellWhoKnew · 04/02/2015 10:26

Annie no, he's sooooooo much more intelligent than legally-trained people, he just knows what is right and wrong so I don't 'need' their input and advice, HE WILL TELL ME WHAT IS RIGHT, okay?

And if I don't agree, HE WILL TELL ME WHAT TO THINK, okay?

And if I dare to suggest otherwise, HE WILL TELL ME WHAT TO SAY, okay?

And if I don't do what I'm told, HE WILL TELL ME AGAIN WHAT TO DO, okay?

Same shit. Different month.

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CookieDoughKid · 04/02/2015 10:47

New name for him : Desperado....

Or is that a song too!?!

Has he got a small weaner because I can't believe his antics. Like - AS IF WWK will do anything you choose.

Small weaner. Big ego. Desperado.

Karenthetoadwhisperer · 04/02/2015 12:10

Eating my words, WWK. Just lost it and swore at Toad for half an hour.

Just because he 'told me what to think'.

Karenthetoadwhisperer · 04/02/2015 12:15

It still feels great to tell them to fuck off just because we can, right? Smile

Jux · 04/02/2015 12:40

Good on you KB! Bet it felt good Grin

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 04/02/2015 15:33

You have to give T(thankfully)STBX full marks for sheer bloody minded, stubborn, fuckwittedness and a total disregard for the law and the powers of the Court and GG.

Do you get the feeling that his comeuppance is looming darkly on the horizon?

WellWhoKnew · 04/02/2015 17:18

Nope.

MrSW's evening.

WWK's evening to come:

Shit>Fan>>>>>>Splat, splat, splitter, splatter, spludge....splooop, splop!

I have been VeryNaughtyWWK because I have ignored decree and exploited, unreasonably so, legal advice, just because I can do so whenever I feel like it. And it transpires, today I felt like it after all.

So VeryNaughtySHL and VeryNaughtyWWK have agreed a VeryNaughtyCourseOfAction regarding the shenanigans of last night.

The last time VeryNaughtySHL and VeryNaughtyWWK made a similar VeryNaughtyDecision, TheEminentlyReasonableSTBXH, apparently, smashed up his apartment in a FitofVeryReasonableReaction.

Just another day in a delinquent divorce .

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CruCru · 04/02/2015 17:21

Jesus, seriously? Is he renting? I'd be so pissed off if I were his landlady.

WellWhoKnew · 04/02/2015 17:25

Well, let's put it this way, he is neither renting nor owning his apartment, he has, however, very reasonably repaired and replaced all the damage.

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MrsMot · 04/02/2015 17:39

Since you have a lovely large metaphorical umbrella in the form of sound legal advice to protect you, let the shit fly.

All that will happen in the end is that he will sink into it even deeper.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/02/2015 18:25

"The dog barks but the caravan passes on".

Let him bark, your caravan is moving swiftly onwards and upwards! (NOT the shitty kind of caravan parked in fields for ex-wives to live in, but the magnificent silken tents, expensive spices, and camels with golden bells moving majestically across the golden desert kind)

Meerka · 04/02/2015 18:29

.. have you been reading the Rubiyyat, across? :D

MrsMot · 04/02/2015 18:53

Ooh I like that Across what breed do we think MrSW would be?

WellWhoKnew · 04/02/2015 18:55

he's a Chihuahua...

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MrsMot · 04/02/2015 18:57

One of those silly naked pink ones?