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Dear NSTBXH

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WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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Jux · 21/01/2015 19:46

I have often suggested the return of stocks to our towns and villages instead of community service sentences. They are met with horror! I shall try to garner more support here Wink

I also think ducking stools might be helpful in place of community service type sentences.

WellWhoKnew · 21/01/2015 20:07

Someone mentioned clean break? My brakes have just sheered - I am lucky to be alive...

...still it gives me a break from driving for a few days to take stock of my life!

Community Service, alas, will be for the benefit of WWK's community...e.g. the gin store, the w(h)ine store and her favourite registered charities: LadyWhoLunchesALot, LadyWhoSwearsALot and LadyWhoSupportsLocalGaragesALot.

Still no news from the other side.

Gin Anyone?

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Bogeyface · 21/01/2015 20:31

Seriously WWK?!! Holy fuck, what happened?

Glad you are ok xx

AcrossthePond55 · 21/01/2015 20:36

Good gracious, thank God you're OK!

WellWhoKnew · 21/01/2015 21:24

Doing 70 on the motorway (because I've done a speed awareness course, and I know about limits, breaking distances and court procedures...), had to break reasonably hard as the traffic had come to a standstill.

As it got going again, was doing 10 mph, and noticed the car in front of the car in front, may or may not have been a Toyata (old joke), but had it's brake lights full on, so being a quick-witted kind of lass, assumed the car in front was about to brake too, so hit the brakes again.

Only for the pedal to hit the floor, and a 'hand of God' pull on the handbrake.

The difference between life and death is 60 mph.

I'm fine. Car is fine, albeit brakeless. Thankfully, the lovely recovery man, decided that my recovery should include a detour to the wine shop!

So, really, all is well in my world!

Bank Manager's world has just got a whole lot more problematic!

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Bogeyface · 21/01/2015 21:30

Wow, that is miracle territory isnt it?

Thank fuck you are ok, and what a lovely recovery driver, he knows his job!

WellWhoKnew · 21/01/2015 21:38

I's got charm Grin - but yes, Mr SW's dreams nearly all came true tonight.

Thankfully, I'm assured MN would take up the cause...

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Bogeyface · 21/01/2015 21:45

You know what? You have just given me an idea......

Joking apart, how many women get fucked over in divorces because they cant afford the legal fight? I wonder how doable a charitable fund would be to raise money for such woman, who can apply for assistance for legal costs against Fuckwits? It would have to be a set amount per application otherwise one particular case could wipe it out, but with ongoing fundraising and say....£2000 grants given, it could work couldnt it?

It could be the (insert the nickname of your car here) Brakes Memorial Fund For Women Fighting Cognitive Arseholiance!

mineofuselessinformation · 21/01/2015 21:47

Oh yes, WWK, I'd 'hunt him down' to paraphrase a popular film...
Glad you're ok. It must have been a shock, but you've had worse.
You KNOW you can cope with whatever life throws at you, but I do hope life stops throwing anything at you for a while now.

WellWhoKnew · 21/01/2015 22:11

Bogey, it's something that I think about daily. I do think it's a real quagmire of an argument though. I could probably write a dissertation on my thoughts on this matter! Starting with 'Rights are for the wealthy/semi-wealthy only - or those than can access legal aid (barely no-one)'. Then, I'd start on gender...

On the other hand, what women are utterly brilliant at: is being innately supportive and caring in a crisis. That, to my mind, is the essence of why MN is so successful. We can't help ourselves. You'll always find someone who can give you the benefit of their experience (albeit anonymously). I think, that is what makes you, me, the next person, utterly amazing - and mostly (but not always) we is women!

Collectively, we know it all, individually we are disadvantaged.

PS: I don't think Mr SW is responsible for the brakes on the car. Yes, responsible for giving me the fucking car...but not responsible for the brakes failing. I will argue, however, if the God he swore to last week agreed with him, I'd be dead!

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/01/2015 22:24

Ok, now I know I'm passing into 'conspiracy paranoia-land' (been watching too many 'whodunits'), but are you sure he wouldn't have tampered with your brakes? After all, he's obviously been getting more desperate and out of control in his thinking. Desperation makes even the most reasonable of people do odd things. And reasonableness has never been one of his qualities, has it?

Just because I'm 'that way', I'd probably ask the mechanic if the brakes looked 'odd' in any way.

WellWhoKnew · 21/01/2015 22:37

Across I am the most comfortable person you could ever meet with the 'who knows?' approach to life. I always err on the side of 'there but for the Grace of God' (which I've just mistyped as 'Grave of God')...

But I really can't afford a massive investigation into this - so I'll put it down to if the God he swore to last week believed him, I'd be dead.

I'm alive. No harm done.

Alternatively, I could think 'Only the good die young'. Here am I, still bleating on about my divorce....

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shadowfax07 · 21/01/2015 23:13

Here am I, still bleating on about my divorce....

And we are very glad that you are!

Bogeyface · 22/01/2015 00:32

across if he had the they would have gone the first time WWK put her brakes on. As much as we would like to place the blame for everything at his door, I am sorry to say that I think this is just bad luck!

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2015 08:22

What a shock for you. So glad you were only doing 10mph. Don't be surprised if this lives with you for a while.

Brake failure happens, rare but it happens. I think you are right to put it down to just one of those things - although quite a Thing!

Even so, I hope you will get yourself another car, which you choose, for which you decide the level of checks/service, etc, and which no one else is involved with. And keep it in a garage.

And I would put it out there - solicitors etc - exactly what has happened, so that Everyone knows about it. These things don't happen twice . . .

P.S. I think you are brilliant. Koko (preferably at nice gentle speeds).

Meerka · 22/01/2015 08:45

oh good grief WWK. very pleased you came out unscathed!

Karenthetoadslayer · 22/01/2015 09:59

Shock Well done WWK for your quick reaction and super driving skills.

WellWhoKnew · 22/01/2015 15:32

Hadn't thought about telling the solicitor, but I've just done so...A copy for your entertainment...

Dear lovely solicitor,

Thank you very much indeed, for your email. On a lighter note... [content removed].

On a bit of a darker note, I did ring earlier but I realise you are busy. I'm not sure whether or not I should mention this to you, but I'm rather lucky to be alive, so thought I'd better just keep you informed that I am still here as your faithful client. I also realise this sounds very melodramatic!

However, coming home last night, the brakes on the car failed suddenly. Thankfully, I had just used them to reduce my speed (not overly harshly) from 70 to 0 on the M999 when I got to the roadworks between here and big city place yesterday. When the traffic got going, I used them again at approx 10mph, but sadly the pedal went all the way to the floor, and car continued unabated. I got to the handbrake in time so no vehicles were injured in the making of this story! I don't think there is any sinister explanation, but needless to say, I'm carless for the foreseeable. Thought I'd better let you know as it may interfere with my ability to meet up with you next week.

Best regards,

WWK.

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AcrossthePond55 · 22/01/2015 16:37

Well as I mentioned, DH and I watch way too many 'real life murder mysteries' most of which deal with a spouse (or ex) bumping off a spouse. I think it's affecting me

whyMe2014 · 22/01/2015 17:12

So glad you're ok. What a shock. I think you're right reporting it to you solicitor. Everything should be documented.

Part of me is with the conspiracy theory. I wouldn't put anything past my fuckwit so I'm always watching my back. You would be shocked at what I hear at the Freedom meetings. Some of the things ex partners do are extreme - don't want to worry you but just take extra care of yourself.

Alternatively go and put 6 numbers on and keep you fingers crossed. Perhaps your luck is changing!

xx

Anniegetyourgun · 22/01/2015 18:33

I don't suppose for one moment STBXH had any active intention of causing you harm by dumping upon you that piece of shit masquerading as a car, but it does go to show he doesn't actually give a pair of fingers about your welfare. Maybe SHL will be able to work up an angle here, resulting in you taking possession, at STBXH's expense, of a decent vehicle that works. Or at the very least (and rather more realistically), ensuring the POSMAAC is not regarded as a marital asset of any value so it doesn't come off your half of the settlement.

iwashappy · 22/01/2015 22:31

WWK that must have been scary and a hell of a shock to find the brakes didn't work. At least you are okay. x

WellWhoKnew · 22/01/2015 23:08

I'm fine - suffered a bit of delayed shock this evening, but otherwise I'm fine. I've got myself a hire car for now, so I have freedom again. I've spoken to a friend who owns a repair garage - so tomorrow I'll know if it's been tampered with or whether it is just wear and tear - first inspection suggests the brake fluid feed/line to one wheel has been severed. I don't really know much about car mechanics, but I've a feeling this will change in the next few days!

Sincerely hoping it's just wear and tear - I've spent most of 2014 dealing with the law (and only once my fault for being caught spending) so just wanting a peaceful life now!

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Karenthetoadslayer · 22/01/2015 23:27

Oh WWK you are my life saver today - no pun intended. 'Being caught spending' - is this a Freudian slip or what? Regarding SP? Grin

fusspot66 · 22/01/2015 23:35

m.scotsman.com/news/driver-tells-of-narrow-escape-after-brake-pipes-are-severed-1-1118103
As I understand it, braking with a leaky brake pipe pushes the brake fluid out if the system, so you may have brakes functioning, until the fluid is gone, but then no response.
The advice is to pump the brake pedal if brakes feel spongy or do not slow you down. I googled 'brake pipes severed' for that link and it was an eye opener.
Don't have nightmares.

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