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Dear NSTBXH

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WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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WellWhoKnew · 22/01/2015 23:54

Caught spending - Lordy, I am hopeless! I can assure you I'm not even drunk in charge of two cats because I've got a mock exam tomorrow so I'm trying to keep a straight head (and also the exam in another language, which is worrying since English is defeating me right now!).

Philosophical thought of the day:

Spending or Speeding - it all costs money

I am definitely guilty of spending - the Qv4 I received the Friday before court had a list of charges as long as my arm, and I spent several hours going through my bank account trying to work out what I'd spent money on.

The £4.99 on Amazon was declared as a 'cat toy'.
The £451 was declared as my shiny new laptop because he has always had 'ishoos' with me buying myself anything.
The £221 pounds was declared as 'can't remember', which I remembered severely infuriated Mr SW the last time I wrote this regarding some things I had bought in July 2013.

In the end, because of the oath, he can't actually receive the answers to Qv4. Rather amusingly!

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WellWhoKnew · 23/01/2015 00:16

Fusspot that's exactly it - a bit of brakefluid on the tyre, but there was just zero resistance from the break pedal when it 'went' - I was pumping like mad I can assure you. Guess there's brakefluid all the way to big city place then...

Clearly, I've had a very lucky escape! If you want to be really freaked out...

Here's a snippet from the Woomen 1 in October (whom I didn't actually meet in person, just sent a photo):

I have also been told there is a great loss. They didn’t say who, what or where they just said you would know. They seem to think the legal papers would be on the cards for mid spring next year for you???? Be safe, early next year, if it’s not on your agenda...This could hold up plans...

Here's a snippet from the Woomen 2 in November:

Mid-Jan, trust your intuition. Whatever the trap is, 8 of swords, a difficult situation. Something may not work out as planned.

I am so giving up Woo - ignorance is bliss.

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Jux · 23/01/2015 00:20

That last sentence really made me smile. Long may you not remember the answers to questions he asks you!

Thank goodness you're OK. Hope the brake line severence is not as sinister as it sounds. Or should we vote on that too? Wink

ptumbi · 23/01/2015 08:40

Well, the woo could have been a bot more specific! That's not their nature, I know...
So glad to see you are OK WWK. Makes the blood run cold to think that it might have happened when you were braking at 70mph instead of 10. Shock

WellWhoKnew · 23/01/2015 08:48

Yes, it really does, doesn't it? It's odd though, a few months ago, when I was at my lowest, I would have been pissed off about them failing at 10 and not 70. These days, however, I feel very, very differently - there is, apparently, something called life after divorce. Well, who knew?

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Hobbitwife001 · 23/01/2015 11:36

Yes, WWK, a lovely, blissful, productive, happy life beckons, and no one deserves it more than you. So glad you are ok, it could have had a very different outcome, but you are safe. I think I would stay away from the woo as well! Lots of love, x

mistlethrush · 23/01/2015 18:33

What a frightening thing to happen - so glad you were only going slowly!

WellWhoKnew · 23/01/2015 22:09

Dear STBXH,

I know you know about this thread. I know you can't submit it to the judge.

Neither will I.

But I also know that it's been written on here twice:

Arrogance + stupidity = fucked.

I know I'm blonde. I know I'm dog-tired. I know I am just okay. I know SHL is irritated. I know SHB is in the top 500. I now know 'CC' was employed on the day - and her specialism is getting children into care.

But I still can't make myself care for you: given what's gone on. Given what you've said. Given what you've done. Given who you are.

I know 'shs' is "just" taking 'instructions' - because the judge pointed out the incompetence.

I know you perceive yourself as 'master of the universe'.

I know all of this.

So do you.

Please, sweetheart, have a little think.

Because, when, and that is when, not if, I make decisions, I am supported in doing so.

WWK.

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MrsC1969HJ · 23/01/2015 23:11

I can vouch for Woomen 2....she's always right. It's terrifying!

Belleende · 24/01/2015 08:46

Oooooohhh hello Mr STBX Mr WWK.
Not suprised you have been doing a bit of lurking. There are lots of us, we pop up occassionally to voice support for the quite fantastic WWK and the coterie of equally fantastic women she has around her. But if I am honest I also come to marvel at your magnificent displays of fuckwittery so beautifully and efficiently rendered by WWK. She has a way with words, as i am sure you now know.
Anyway that is more than enough of you.
Glad you are ok after your near miss, I like your reaction, phew that was lucky rather than fuck the world has it in for me. I think that is the very definition of optimist versus pessimist. This will stand you in good stead for your life after divorce.

Anniegetyourgun · 24/01/2015 08:47

Ha, he's reading it is he?

Sad git.

dobedobedo · 24/01/2015 09:31

WWK I'm so glad you're okay, that sounds terribly scary though.

And to Mr SW, aka fuckwit, aka Mr STBXH: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You reap what you sow.

WellWhoKnew · 24/01/2015 13:13

Bellende I did think about the film "Final Destination" after it happened...and reminded myself it's just a film (and one I bitterly regret ever watching as I don't really like horror films).

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Jux · 24/01/2015 13:41

Mr Shitey-Whitey! I second everything Belleend says. We marvel at the extent of Fuckwittery and Arseholiance you display. It is breath-taking that a human as foolish is capable of wandering around on their own!

AcrossthePond55 · 24/01/2015 14:24

Ooooh! So he's here, is he?

I bow down to the Master of the Universe (not). I yield to his superiority (not). I acquiesce to his every wish (not).

I laugh in his silly antics (yes). I giggle at his fuckwittery (yes). I snicker at the thought of his face as he reads this thread & realizes what an amazing woman WWK is! (absolutely!!!!)

I suggest he look up the words 'comeuppance' and 'karma'. Because if he knew the definitions before he started this whole thing, he wouldn't be the putz that he is!

Meerka · 24/01/2015 14:37

I wonder if one day he'll wake up and realise just what he has discarded so easily.

A pity to treat another human being like such garbage, especially one that presumably he once had feelings for.

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 24/01/2015 14:59

Arrogance + stupidity + cupidity = totally fucked - hopefully soon

UptheChimney · 24/01/2015 19:06

LOL

and I never write that

Waving to the sad little man -- you're funny!

CookieDoughKid · 24/01/2015 22:11

Hello Mr STBX. You are a charmer aren't you? Also. I don't know what you do in your job but you really are so dumb. So dumb in that you actually think you are clever. You know at the end of this, you've only burnt yourself in the end? It's not all about the money you know. I'll give you that for free eh?... I don't know how you sleep at night but perhaps you don't.

Anyhow, you are already sounding old.

WWK. I'm rooting for you.

CookieDoughKid · 24/01/2015 22:14

Also. I forgot to add Mr.STBX - were you born dumb because I have never heard of anyone that has so spectacularly and costly drawn out a divorce. I mean, do you actually enjoy fucking your life up? Because you can't seem to even do the basics right. I'm amazed you can tie your shoes ...but wait, you get your legal peep to do that for you don't ya?

Sistedtwister · 24/01/2015 23:21

WWK
I've been lurking from the beginning and just want to say bravo, you are amazing.

And to STBXH...... You utter fuckwit!

WellWhoKnew · 26/01/2015 01:10

Dear Fuckwit,

Excuse the name change I have decreed for you - but it's more apt than STBXH, given we're still a couple of moons away from that.

Just to let you know, I have remembered tomorrow is a special day.

For me, it's a 'tick tock' kind of day.

A day when the notice runs out. Has 'shs' even made you aware of it?

Because I know tomorrow is a significant day for you. But hey, you're past tense - tomorrow is just another divorcing day for me.

It's now two weeks since GG gave you an hour to sort out the Bull and Pollyanna Form E.

We are now 330 hours later - and you're still prevaricating away.

But from now on, I'll always remember this date as the date I decided to be a contrary bitch. The wise women of MN decided to be kind to you. I decided not to be. And just in case, you wish to blame 'shs' for the oversight for you not knowing, here I am giving you the personal reminder.

I've done the maths. I can afford to walk away with my head held high. I can forgo what's rightfully mine. I can afford to be a lot poorer than you decree I should be.

Yes, we've been working on my case this weekend. Get the overtime in whilst you can.

Woman, contrary, with Plan called Armageddon.

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Izzie595 · 26/01/2015 06:34

I can afford to walk away with my head held high.

You are an inspiration. Dignity, strength, intelligence, stamina
Plenty of other things I haven't thought of

mineofuselessinformation · 26/01/2015 06:47

'I can forego what's rightfully mine'. Eh? Don't you dare - you'll have a MN mutiny on your hands if you do!
As for the 330 hours, it's no surprise is it - just another example of breath-taking arrogance. And, shs can't remind him can she?

dobedobedo · 26/01/2015 10:14

Oh wow. Is Fuckwit going to be treated to a stay away at Her Majesty's pleasure?

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