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Dear NSTBXH

991 replies

WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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EvilExWife · 29/11/2014 17:13

I have a wee fairy tale to tell too! (I've posted here before but really don't want to out myself!)

Once upon a time, a naive young woman married a man who promised to treat her right, love her forever and be a decent husband. Obviously he was a liar and a nasty abusive piece of work, which didn't come out until after the wedding. A short marriage and long divorce ensued, with a final financial settlement of just enough for the still fairly young woman to buy a new bed...

There were small children resulting from the short marriage, and the abusive man (who was terrified of the CSA being involved) decided to pay a small amount of maintenance per month. This figure never once increased over the years, but was generally laid on time.

Fast forward quite a few more years, and the youngest child turned 18. The man, who was really not anywhere near as clever as he thought he was, continued paying the maintenance. And still does...

As it is a voluntary payment, made direct from him to me, he has no chance of ever claiming I obtained this through fraudulent means. If he can't even remember how old the children he provided sperm for are, well, not my problem Grin

MrsC1969HJ · 29/11/2014 17:24

Ha ha, brilliant...serves him bloody right the arsehole...I think you sound like a VeryNiceExWife....Grin

WellWhoKnew · 29/11/2014 17:44

EvilExWife I would love to know how old your children are now!

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MrsC1969HJ · 29/11/2014 17:52

Hoping about 45 WWK....!

CruCru · 02/12/2014 17:40

How are you now, WWK?

WellWhoKnew · 03/12/2014 23:49

Dear STBXH,

I take it by now you have received the latest 'ex-parte' order.

Me being your 'ex'

You being the 'part' .

'e' being 'entertainment'.

I assume we are agreed: It's fucking freezing 'round these parts.

Given your fondness for animation. Let me take advantage of the cartoon of the moment.

Not by decree, but by order.

So here's my sensible advice:

Let it go.

Wife, warming up.

Six weeks to go.

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IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 05/12/2014 14:17

With any luck that should put a stop to whatever he's up to.

WellWhoKnew · 07/12/2014 00:18

Dear VSTBXH,

Thank you for your email of t'other day.

It made me smile.

I didn't reply directly because I never do. Still, seven months, six days later, you still fucking haven't got a clue.

Let me remind you, when we went to court for the FDA, dragging with you a barrister and a solicitor (incompetent as she remains), because you were so certain that you were going to get your way, when all was going against you, we conceded just one thing.

That I would communicate with you on three specific matters.

And I did. After all you could, theoretically, apply for me to go to prison if I didn't.

Yes, your honour, the arselicant in these proceedings insists the ragespondent goes to prison because she's got the hump with me.

So go fuck off with the fourth (matter) and multiply. I am back to NC.

Which is good, I think.

It would be just as ridiculous for me to take you to court because the paperwork, once again unsigned, only arrived four hours after I had begun the case management meeting with the lovely, but costly SHB, meaning that a following meeting has had to be scheduled.

And that has fed the rage.

I mean I am so done with 'woe is me'. I am, finally, absolutely fucking furious, not just with you, but also with me.

I realised it is over seven months since you left and I had completely forgotten to remember that anniversary. Clearly, you are easily forgotten.

But some of the things you've said over the years - they bounce around my head, tormenting me, and dementing me.

It is one month, six days until I see you again.

But irrespective of how I feel, I am strangely excited at the thought that following that I will never have to see you again.

There is something very relieving about that.

When we met, I was happy. I was living a life that I had chosen for myself, I had my independence, I had my self-confidence and more importantly I had made my life choices, and I was delighted with them. It brought great reward, not financially, but in terms of privilege, of interesting times, of proving to myself that even though I was scared sometimes, I could do anything I wanted. I had that elusive thing: freedom.

I didn't have to fake it.

When we met I told you we could date but I didn't want to give my life over to anyone - I was having a blast, after all.

And yet you rearranged your life to fit in with mine. You even rearranged your life to move in with me - and even then I felt pressured into that.

Why didn't I stop and think for just one minute?

And then once you moved in, you once said to me 'Well, if women want to do men's jobs, they deserve to be raped'.

Yep, you really said that. And you know you did, so I don't care if this 'outs' me once and for all.

I don't have a fucking clue what a 'man's job' is, but I calmly explained to you why that attitude was so fucked up.

For years, you have called me a 'bra burning lesbian'.

No, I was born a woman.

I chose my life.

I do not deserve to be raped.

Yet, financially, you are doing your damnedest.

After all, it is undoubtedly an attitude that would give me the 'rage' - and that appears to be the attitude you keep.

But you vociferously argued your point. You remain vociferously carrying on and there's no one to talk sense to you - your fucking shit hopeless solicitor surely must have advised you?

Why is it you determine one rule for me, and another for you?

We have equal rights.

Which brings me to rage #2.

I remind myself that when I became the 'first woman in the history of the world to achieve X', X being something only five men have achieved, I told someone this. And you said:

'If women want equal rights, you shouldn't boast about being the first woman to achieve X'.

Well fuck you again. Why can't I, little old me, be fucking proud of my achievements?

Just because others have achieved it, why can't I be proud of me?

Oh, yeah, because it diminishes you.

And then, I remind myself, when I finished my third degree a few years ago, with Distinction I am at pains to point out, you told me that I shouldn't feel so good about that because I had it easy, y'know being a) academically bright and b) having two others that 'made it easy for me'.

Well fuck you. I still achieved that no matter how you diminish it. Your degree hasn't got you so far has it? Given the only time you have ever been promoted, resulted in you getting the sack!

And it has taken me a while, to actually, appreciate that I'm brighter than you want me to be. I am just mighty fine without you. That I can be okay but I'm going to have to accept that, you may have nearly destroyed me.

You didn't succeed.

Tough fucking shit.

You have an abysmal legal advisor. I don't know about your barrister. But SHL and my award-winning, female SHB, have been giving me some tough talking this week.

And it gave me the rage.

But, y'know, I don't sack them because just sometimes, perhaps, I need some tough talking.

And perhaps that means I need to be tough-talking with me. In my little pretty head.

So fuck you.

I am okay with starting over. I really am.

No.more.fuckwittery.

Absolutely not signing off with 'wife'.

Person. Woman. Defiant.

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whyMe2014 · 07/12/2014 00:30

Bravo - u go girl !
Fuck him and the horse (donkey - as he's being played by danny devito in film) he rode in on.
Run him out of town to never fuck with this strong, intelligent woman (that was always there) again xx

MrsC1969HJ · 07/12/2014 00:36

Fuck him and I love you. Just saying xx

FrancesNiadova · 07/12/2014 03:54

WWK, what an abusive, odious, little man.
Stay angry & kick him into touch. Anger can be good!
KOKO Flowers

IDeserveMore · 07/12/2014 04:08

Amazing! Just amazing. I am in awe of your writing (and looking forward to the day when I arrive at Rage on my way along this hideous journey)
What a very, very stupid little man to have the arrogance to think he may even be your equal let alone better than you.
And utterly vile.
Beneath contempt.

Meerka · 07/12/2014 07:57

What an amazing post WWK.

You are truly amazing.

arthriticfingers · 07/12/2014 09:09
Flowers
mineofuselessinformation · 07/12/2014 09:44

I'm glad you've found the anger. It's so productive.
By the way, I was driving home on Friday and noticed the van in front had the initials SHB on it. I instantly thought of you! Smile

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 07/12/2014 09:47

Amazing post - keep on raging on Flowers Wine

lindtastic · 07/12/2014 12:09

Absolutely awesome...Stunning post WWK.

Keep strong and keep writing.

SnottySundays · 07/12/2014 12:52

Shock Shock Shock

He said what???

I have no words to describe him. You, on the other hand, are amazing.

mistlethrush · 08/12/2014 15:41

I really am looking forward to the book. You've had such a journey and are so good at expressing things in words.

WellWhoKnew · 08/12/2014 16:27

Ah, shit! I've decided to become an accountant.

What kind of book would you want me to write? I'm good at swearing, mis-typing, being ragey with the world and pissing off husbands.

Which doesn't make for a best-seller, really.

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IDeserveMore · 08/12/2014 18:12

Nooooooo! You need to become a SHL. For all of us!

WellWhoKnew · 08/12/2014 19:43

Dear STBXH,

I used to have a job. You sacked me. So I'm not that job anymore. I used to have a job but you persuaded me to give up my career to support yours. I don't have that career anymore either.

Little Mrs Muppet here
sat on her Tuffet
Because STBXH took over her common sense.

And frightened Mrs Muppet into dependence.

The one thing about you being a financially abusive arsehole is that it makes sense for me to become an accountant. After all, with all the robbing Peter to pay Paul I've had to do in the last seven months, in addition to the analysis of your financial affairs, I feel half bloody qualified already.

I don't think I'd be a very good SHL as quite frankly the ONLY reason that you are alive and pissing me off because it makes great entertainment for MN.

I may, or may not, have PMT though. I may be of more rational mind tomorrow.

Or next year, when you have finally, once and for all, fucked off out of my life.

But until then, may I take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings, sadly, I can't afford to buy you a card or a present, given your contempt for me is such you feel it fit to send a lovely bill my way for 1,025 pounds today.

How nice.

And, I'm certain, that the judge will be a little less than sarcastic about your treating him with contempt, having decided not to give me any more SM now until it's over.

How nice.

And, finally, thank you for your email demanding I sell some of the remaining property that has popped into your head with your suggested price range of around £100. Certainly, I shall have no problems moving that into the escrow account as you have wished. Because surprisingly, when you decide I can live off fresh air and rain water, I disagree.

Here's an idea? Why don't you come here, pop it on to ebay using my wireless, shiny new lap-top and camera. I'd be more than happy to add some arsenic to the free cup of tea I would offer you.

Woman. Considering Contract Killing as a career move.

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WellWhoKnew · 08/12/2014 19:51

PS I guess your second Schedule of Deficiencies questionnaire has arrived then?

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IDeserveMore · 08/12/2014 19:55

Contract killing you say? You're hired! You will currently find my FW at his sports club of choice. Method? Your choice. Payment? Can't possibly be more than this whole sorry mess is likely to cost.

MrsC1969HJ · 08/12/2014 19:57

The fucking bastard. Excuse my language. Seriously? He's stopped your SM? So, lashing out because he's been caught out. What does SHL say to this? Am here if you need an ear xx