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I've never forgiven you for becoming fat

186 replies

24hourM0MMY · 09/09/2014 01:30

My husband spoke these words to me last night. We've been talking about having a second child and told me he wants me to get in shape because he doesn't fancy me. I'm heartbroken. Btw, I'm 5'-4" and 9.5 stone, but he's got my 7 stone body from 10 years ago in his head. I dont know what to do.

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wallypops · 09/09/2014 02:40

Surely 7 stone must have been seriously underweight. I'm sorry but he really doesn't get to have that opinion. I'd find that something that I couldn't get past. Is he some greek god of a man, because he sounds like a hurtful twat. Your weight now sounds absolutely great to me, I'm your height and would love to be 9.5 stone.

Aussiebean · 09/09/2014 03:11

After 10 years is he still the same body shape? Is he balding? Got a belly?

I suggest you tell him he doesn't have to touch you ever again and can move out.

What an arse.

ExitPursuedByAKoalaBear · 09/09/2014 03:16

What a git.

superstarheartbreaker · 09/09/2014 03:51

Ugggggrrr.... He's obviously one of those idiots who likes very skinny girls. Fwiw I'm 5.6 and 11 stone and I get lots of attention.I wouldn't try for that baby.

superstarheartbreaker · 09/09/2014 03:53

I was 6 stone when I had a very serious eating disorder and 7 stone is very underweight. He's a prick.

InfiniteJest · 09/09/2014 04:01

There are three things wrong with saying "I've never forgiven you for becoming fat".

  1. You're not fat. Your height to weight ratio is fine, even if it has changed - and you have used a body to grow a human (his child) in that time.

  2. This isn't something he needs to 'forgive' you for. Your body changing isn't something you're doing TO him. He does not own your body. You do not owe it to him to be an underweight wife.

  3. This is a cruel statement and it's all about him and what he wants.

Why do you want to have a second baby with someone who treats you with such disrespect?

Eastpoint · 09/09/2014 04:14

He's trying to hurt you & succeeded. Very few adult women can menstruate at 5'4" and 7 stone. How old were you when you met? 14 or 15? Does he know anything about BMI? That would give you a BMI of 16.9 (if you were 7st1lb) which comes up as UNDERWEIGHT. The healthy range for that height is 7st10lbs-10st6lbs. If you weighed that little you might be more likely to get osteoporosis, have poor mental health & get more colds. Judging from shopping with my teenage daughter it would also be almost impossible to buy clothes.

Ask him why he is being so mean? Does he resent the lack of freedom resulting from being an adult married father? The more I think about it the more I think he's being a jerk and trying to justify poor behaviour.

mathanxiety · 09/09/2014 04:57

Tell him hell will freeze over before you will forgive him for his superficiality and his cruelty, and then pack his things in big black binbags and turf them out the front door.

mathanxiety · 09/09/2014 04:59

Life oi too short for a women to go around wishing she were half the size she is.

feathermucker · 09/09/2014 05:08

Wow, he sounds like a real charmer! How dare he treat you like that?! Those words are horrid and demeaning!

What did you say? Has he apologised?

Thanks
whycantifindaname · 09/09/2014 05:12

How awful Sad for you.

You deserve to have people in your life that make you feel good. I hope you realise this and do not put up with this crap.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/09/2014 05:17

I have been married over 26 years. I was thin when we married and have been thin, overweight, thin again, and am now, well, a wee bit padded middle aged woman whose body is also a bit gravity challenged. My husband has loved me and been sexually attracted to me no matter what my body looked like; thin, fat, pregnant, or with saggy bits. Because he loves ME, who I am, not the package that I come in. If your husband doesn't 'fancy you' because he thinks you are overweight (you aren't!) what on earth would happen if, God forbid, you lost a limb in an accident, a breast to cancer, or be wheelchair-bound due to disease?

Your husband is shallow. Shallow, mean, and hurtful. And frankly, that's not very sexually attractive as far as I'm concerned.

temporaryusername · 09/09/2014 05:27

OP, assuming it was not a silly joke (and I don't think you'd be posting if it had been) I would be scared to be a man like that. First, you are slim. Not even close to the upper end of the healthy weight range, let alone overweight. 7 stone is underweight and unhealthy. I'm 5'4 or 5'5 depending on whether I stand up straight, and as an adult I've never weighed below 8 stone, have often been 9 and something and everyone has said that is slim and looks good. Frankly, if he thinks of anything in the healthy weight range up to about 10 and a half as fat, then he has a problem. Do you think he could be gay, or into very young girls? I just think the average heterosexual man, or man without some kind of outlandish sexual preference would see you as ideal right now. To see you as fat is a problem he should seek help with.

To think that your weight, whatever it was, is something he should forgive you for would be wrong even if you were overweight, the fact you're not adds a sinister twist. What exactly does he think a wife is there for? Not be loved for who she is, obviously.

I think you should say to him - 'Well, it is worrying and very strange that you would say that, because I'm not fat. If you don't find me attractive at this size perhaps you should see someone about your obvious problems'. Then add that 'having your child may involve a temporary change in weight, or a change in figure shape, as might any number of things in the future (illness etc). So actually, given that you are a very superficial person I don't feel you'd make a suitable partner or second time father at this point.' Ask him to reflect on his outrageousness and come back to you with an apology. Then leave the room. If he doesn't come up with something excellent to explain himself, you might want to take note and mull over what you want to do.

I have been many different weights while I have been with my DP, so has he actually. Neither of us has ever said that it has stopped the other being attractive (it hasn't, for me anyway and he seemed interested Wink). Nor have we ever said that someone should be forgiven, or feel that love and affection from their partner depends on their weight. I know we both look and feel healthier at an ideal weight so we try to lose weight when we do gain it. In friend's and relative's relationships, again all kinds of weight changes over the years and support given.

So your DP's attitude is very abnormal and mean, even if your were hugely overweight.....how bizarre and concerning is it then, that he has this attitude when your weight is pretty much ideal?

temporaryusername · 09/09/2014 05:30

Across the Pond Quite right, exactly. If a man said that to me I don't think I'd ever find him attractive again. Point that out too OP!

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 09/09/2014 05:52

My dh has gained 3 stone since we got together. (He was 23 then is 37 now.) His BMI has gone from 23 to 28 although he is very muscular - ex international sportsman, arms like Popeyes - so the level of fat he carries is probably more like someone with a BMI of 26 ie overweight but not very - he started off really skinny.

It worries me - you read about young men having heart attacks - but it isn't something I have to forgive him for. He hasn't done anything to me.

Vivacia · 09/09/2014 07:23

Tell him hell will freeze over before you will forgive him for his superficiality and his cruelty

This.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 09/09/2014 07:35

There's no going back from a statement like that really. I'd suggest you tell him that, if he dislikes you so much, he should pack a bag rather than stick around being insulting. Don't let him destroy your confidence.

sus14 · 09/09/2014 08:21

I am 5'4 and currently weigh 10.7 after losing a stone (when I was overweight). I would like to lose a bit more but I am generally happy now with my shape even though I am 1lb overweight.

The lowest weight someone who is 5'4 should have is 7'10 - and the range is from that up to 10'6 - so you are most certainly not overweight and when you weighed 7 stone you were quite seriously underweight.

sus14 · 09/09/2014 08:22

not that it is any of his business anyway

SnakeyMcBadass · 09/09/2014 08:24

How did you not kill him? Wanker.

CarryOn90 · 09/09/2014 08:30

This is so horribly cruel OP.

Also FWIW, you're a perfectly healthy weight. Fat is not a nice word but if he meant "overweight" then he's wrong.

Your body doesn't exist for his satisfaction

LineRunner · 09/09/2014 08:35

He has got real issues.

Nulliferous · 09/09/2014 08:42

Please don't have another child with this man. Please.

F0ssil · 09/09/2014 08:44

Fat!?

You're not fat! You're like me, but an inch taller and I would fekking deck anybody that called me fat. I've never been seven stone though. At my absolute slimmest I was 8 stone and that took some work tbh. Was hungry a fair proportion of the time.

He's an ass. He is.

F0ssil · 09/09/2014 08:48

I can't believe that he's nice apart from that comment, as that comment is just so indicative of an entitled misogynist attitude.

If he finds you so fAT, then spare him the 'horror' Confused of ever spending time with you again. HE HAS definitely forfeited the right to sleep with you and live with you.