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Support thread for those in Emotionally Abusive relationships....can it be 18?

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foolonthehill · 08/03/2013 22:19

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
a check list Use this site for some concise diagnostic lists and support
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
why financial abuse is domestic violenceAre you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
20 signs you're with a controlling and/or abusive partner Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans ? He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans - Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels - The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie - If you a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being Co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out ? You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.
heart to heart a wealth of information and personal experiences drawn together in one place

what couples therapy does for abusers

If you find that he really wants to change
should I stay or should I go bonus materials this is a site containing the material for men who want to change?please don?t give him the link?print out the content for him to work through.

The Bill of Rights
bill of rights here is what you should expect as a starting point for your treatment in a relationship, as you will of course be treating others!!

OP posts:
BreatheandFlyAway · 20/03/2013 22:10

Ooh the howlings from the FSOF are bloody annoying, let's put the juke box on... or leclerc - play us a tune, lovey Grin

snowshapes · 20/03/2013 22:16

Run sounds lovely Smile I think DCs understand more than we give them credit for. I mean, in an ideal world, we would all want our families to be together, but it would require the FWs not to be FWs. That is kind of what your DD is saying, really. Except it is hard to imagine FW not being a FW.

FairyFi · 20/03/2013 22:18

oh yes tis do play us a tune

hilarious fly [sharing equally smug emoticon]

snowshapes · 20/03/2013 22:26

I mean,the more I read on here, the more I realise just how much of a FW he was.

How do I get the remnants (massive great big boulders, more like) of Fwittery out of my head? I liked the list of good things to do for oneself earlier in the thread. Going to try some of those. Also cutting down caffeine and getting more sleep to help deal with the anxiety. Any other ideas? They need to be cheap as just had big car bill. Taking control and ebaying contents of house might kill two birds with one stone, metaphorically speaking of course.

Ah, well, my musings for the evening. Cheers to everyone Wine

NoraLuca · 20/03/2013 22:27

Smile no I didn't leave H just so I could go running, there were a whole host of reasons and now I've left there are a whole lot of advantages that I'd never even thought of (seeing friends! playing music in the house! Easter eggs and Christmas decorations! choosing the TV programme! wearing what I want! going running / swimming / abseiling / whatever...) but he's being so nice at the moment that it's difficult to believe the things he used to say and how he used to behave.

I'm sure the DC do understand a lot, and IMO if you are with a FW when they're older it will be a lot easier to justify leaving than it would have been to justify staying.

Yay to jukebox. Or tune. Here's to dancing and drinking and being happy Wink

snowshapes · 20/03/2013 22:30

Ah. Music definitely good. Do you know, for six years, we only ever listened to what he wanted to. He has put me off classical music for life. So, something non-classical, please, racuous loud and popular?

NoraLuca · 20/03/2013 22:33
TheSilveryPussycat · 20/03/2013 22:33
TheSilveryPussycat · 20/03/2013 22:35
NoraLuca · 20/03/2013 22:40

Blush due to taste in music Grin

FairyFi · 20/03/2013 22:46

Grin GrinGrin

bountyicecream · 20/03/2013 22:54

Talking music. I dug out an old Robbie Williams album the other day and came across karma killer. It is perfect for a fw.
"are you cut up. Or do you easily forget? Are you still around? Why haven't you managed to die yet" slightly harsh and even better
"you never love. Why was I never good enough?"

And all to an up beat angry tune rather than a ballad which so many inspiring lyrics seem to be

bountyicecream · 20/03/2013 22:57

Talking music. I dug out an old Robbie Williams album the other day and came across karma killer. It is perfect for a fw.
"are you cut up. Or do you easily forget? Are you still around? Why haven't you managed to die yet" slightly harsh

and even better
"you never love. Why was I never good enough?"

And all to an up beat angry tune rather than a ballad which so many inspiring lyrics seem to be

FairyFi · 20/03/2013 22:58
bountyicecream · 20/03/2013 22:59

Oops. Rather embarrassing to expose my Robbie obsession twice. Ahem!

BreatheandFlyAway · 20/03/2013 22:59
BreatheandFlyAway · 20/03/2013 23:04

G'night fi safe home, don't let the werewolves bite....

BreatheandFlyAway · 20/03/2013 23:05

bounty there is NO shame on this thread Grin

minkembra · 20/03/2013 23:08

Kept thinking someone was going to rick roll me there.

Opens pub door and runs out sniggering. realises it us cold and runs back in tks hide under table>

Your meeses are well cheeky eating the dcas food. unless this is dome kind if fattening up ploy on part of dcat Grin

minkembra · 20/03/2013 23:10

Darn it.

well that is no way to set off a bad joke.
Epic fail Blush

BreatheandFlyAway · 20/03/2013 23:14

Ha ha mink not a fail, a good laff, lovey Grin

DCs keep saying, "poor dcat, no wonder he's always hungry" ???? he is a strapping great moggie who basically rules the house and is glossy and enormous and bloody perfect

BreatheandFlyAway · 20/03/2013 23:14

and way better than a bloke

BreatheandFlyAway · 20/03/2013 23:15

although he does have a girly collar

Right, am clearly rambling Blush I think I'd better haul myself to bed. Nitey nite all xxxxxx

snowshapes · 20/03/2013 23:24

Hahaha, brilliant. My little sister had Rick Astley on her wall . I am not sure that was quite what I had in mind, but I absolutely have to see what tubthumping is about when DCs are not asleep.
Yes, angry upbeat music, def the way to go.

snowshapes · 20/03/2013 23:26

I had better go to bed too, my early night is disappearing out the window. Goodnight all, and to the assorted pets. I would like a giraffe. Maybe not very practical.

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