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DH doesn't want to have sex with me, but I want sex, what do I do?

213 replies

MrsRigby · 23/06/2012 20:30

DH doesn't want to have sex with me. He has given me a couple of excuses, the latest being that he is tired. My problem with this excuse is that even when I'm tired I still want to have sex.

We had sex a few days before Christmas 2011, prior to this we hadn't had sex in about 2 years. This year, we have only had sex once.

Is this normal? What should I do?

I suppose the obvious is just buy a vibrator, but I'm a little embarressed about having to resort to a mechanical object to satisfy my needs when there is a penis in the house. Also, we have 2 young boys (3 and 1) and I don't really want to have to explain this to them when they find it, which they will.

I don't know how much everyone else wants sex or has sex so I don't know if this is normal.

I have a very high sex drive and constantly want sex.

I have very low self esteem because of this, I cry and feel depressed. I am only 32 and don't want to live the rest of my life as a nun or pretend to be a virgin.

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thisisyesterday · 23/06/2012 20:55

i took the "when there is a penis in the house" comment at face value though...

why use a vibrator, when I have the real thing already in the house.

I don't think the OP was implying that her husband was "just" a penis and no use for anything else was she?

LineRunner · 23/06/2012 20:57

I'm glad you are both abe to laugh at this thread, together. That must be a relief.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid · 23/06/2012 20:57

But it's the same as a bloke saying why should they wank in the shower when there's a vagina in the house. Why is it any different?

BertieBotts · 23/06/2012 20:57

Because your husband isn't responsible for your sex drive. Sex isn't a right, even if you are in a relationship.

You sound like you have deeper problems.

susiedaisy · 23/06/2012 20:58

I find this whole thread bizarre tbh if your Dh can laugh at your thread op why can't you sit and talk about this and come to some solution or is showing him this thread an attempt to show him how fed up you are about the lack of sex??

EclecticShock · 23/06/2012 20:58

I agree, I didnt see op's post as odd. I would much rather have sex wih my oh than use a vibrator but it's not always on the cards.

BertieBotts · 23/06/2012 20:59

I typed out something really long on another similar thread earlier, hang on, I'll find it - I hope you don't mind a C+P.

NimpyWindowMash · 23/06/2012 20:59

It's not normal. Could he be persuaded to get some help?
This wouldn't work for me. I have a reasonable sex drive and I wouldn't be too happy if I had it only once a year.
How is your relationship apart from the sex?
Apart from giving excuses, what does your DH think is the solution to this problem?

MaloryMad · 23/06/2012 20:59

Unfortunately all the suggestions to buy a vibrator, whilst well-intended, actually don't help the deeper issues here which are the deep psychological and emotional trauma this situation can create in a woman who feels rejected in this way by a man.
I lived like this for just a bit less than 20 years. Sex started to dwindle very soon after we got married. Looking back there were indications when we were 'courting' that he didn't have the sex drive that I'd experienced with my previous boyfriends, just didn't realise at the time. We ended up divorced.

HecateAdonea thanks for speaking up. There's a lot of shame around this subject for women.

MrsRigby, Hecate outlined the choices you have here. It's a bloody awful situation to be in, especially if the relationship is right in other ways. You can discuss it with him till the cows come home but most men in this situation either come up with a different 'reason' every time it's discussed, or just shut down completely. I wish you all the best.

Ormiriathomimus · 23/06/2012 20:59

If you can laugh about the subject it sounds to me as there shouldn't be a problem.

BertieBotts · 23/06/2012 21:00

If one partner has totally switched off, no intimacy, nothing, then that probably means you have bigger problems, or that you aren't compatible.

Similarly, if one partner makes it obvious that they're unsatisfied then the other will feel pressure and there is no bigger turn off than pressure. The stronger the pressure the worse it will be, unless it's verging on forceful/abusive in which case the pressured partner is more likely to give in, however, that's an awful prospect - having sex because you feel there is no other option - and really not conducive in any way to a healthy relationship.

If you're sure you're not in either of these scenarios then it's worth sitting down and properly talking about it, but actually avoiding the subject of sex itself. I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but it isn't - the problem when you have a situation like this is that one person gets it in their head "I need more sex" and the other gets it in their head "I need less sex/I don't want to have more sex/I don't like sex" when actually it's not necessarily about sex at all.

So, the HSD (higher sex drive) partner needs to work out what it actually is that they want that they think sex will provide - whether that's intimacy, connection, shared physical experience, stress release, whatever. Then consider whether it's fair to rely on their partner for those needs (e.g. stress release - no, physical sexual pleasure - no, at least not all the time, ie don't hold them responsible for your lack of sexual release if they don't want it at a particular time)

The ones which do necessarily require the LSD partner to be involved like connection, intimacy etc, hold on to those for a minute.

The LSD partner needs to do a similar thing, ie think about what it is they find off-putting about sex and write all that down, e.g. fear of pregnancy, physical exertion, pain, invasion of personal space, worry that "smaller" interactions e.g. kissing etc will lead to more, body/self esteem worries, general feeling of not enough going on elsewhere in the relationship.

If you can both be honest and be prepared for the other's thoughts to perhaps be hurtful it will help much more in the long run. Anyway, once you both have your thoughts/feelings around sex without it being about sex overtly you can perhaps talk and find ways to meet the HSD's needs without triggering the LSD's discomfort. For example, you could perhaps have less penetrative sex and concentrate on other things more with penetrative sex more of an occasional thing. You could find non-sexual ways of being intimate like having a bath together or taking up massage. You could start a new hobby together or take on a project, or look at your everyday routines - perhaps you've fallen into a pattern of doing your own thing, or you could fit in a time to sit and connect, perhaps first thing in the morning with a coffee or designate one night a week as a "date night" (not intending to lead to sex, but could if it happens to go there) etc etc.

The hope with all of this is that it does any or all of three things, firstly that it reduces the HSD's need for sex because the needs are getting met in other ways, that it creates a more open atmosphere for talking about sex so that the HSD can reassure the LSD that they are loved, appreciated and respected and that it's fine if they don't want to do something or if they start but don't finish etc and the LSD can reassure the HSD that it's not them they are rejecting. And also that the LSD feels closer to the HSD which perhaps will lead to more sex or more sexual/intimate activity.

EclecticShock · 23/06/2012 21:00

Why is your dp watching the thread?

MrsRigby · 23/06/2012 21:00

fuzzpig I very nearly did get one, but then I thought why bother when I can do it in 20 seconds with my fingers plus risk the boys finding it. He would be more than happy for me to have a rabbit and would probably even buy me one as an early anniversary/christmas/valentines/birthday present.

eclecticshock I can't remember what our sex life was like.

Also, I should add, that I would like another child for which I kind of need DH/his penis.

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ThisOnce · 23/06/2012 21:00

Depression and tiredness would be reasonable explanations if he were willing to try to resolve them but I suspect they're excuses.

I'm in the same situation and the reason I think it's excuses is it's always a different reason and nothing ever changes - soul destroying.

EclecticShock · 23/06/2012 21:01

Mating in captivity can be a useful book if you're interested.

MrsRigby · 23/06/2012 21:02

blackoutthesun DH doesn't want to have sex now as I swore at him before and he is tired.

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EclecticShock · 23/06/2012 21:02

Did you have regular sex at some point?

MrsRigby · 23/06/2012 21:03

thisisyesterday thank you for understanding the comment.

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oikopolis · 23/06/2012 21:03

this is just bizarre.

he doesn't want to have sex. so, you either need to leave him, start sleeping with other people, or put up with it via wanking.

that's it really. there's not really anything else to say.

Spookey80 · 23/06/2012 21:03

I think you are perfectly normal op. I seem to have a higher sex drive than my dh, but we meet in the middle. And this is ok with me.
You need to address this, no wander you feel frustrated. You sound it too.

Dropdeadfred · 23/06/2012 21:04

I find it hard to believe this.... Not sure why but I don't think op's dh has really chuckled at this threadt whilst still not seeing how upset his wife is, or wanting to properly talk about it
Why would he be reading this

HecateAdonaea · 23/06/2012 21:05

Does he care how you feel about it? is he willing to go to the gp and rule out anything physical?

For me, the worst thing is really not an empty vagina Grin it is feeling rejected, unwanted and ugly. It's the emotional repercussions of not being desired that is difficult to deal with.

Also being treated like my feelings don't matter and I am somehow shallow and unreasonable for wanting to be wanted.

He keeps telling me to be patient and it won't always be like this.

I think 12 years is patient.

particularly considering we've only been married 14.

So since your husband is reading this, I would beg him to take time to really see how much it hurts when you feel unwanted. That it is less about penis in vagina and more about rejection.

MrsRigby · 23/06/2012 21:05

susiedaisy he's watching US Marshalls and wanted to know what I was typing. As I don't have any secrets from him and tell him everything (okay, maybe not everything Wink) I told him I'd asked for opinions from Mumsnetters about our non existant sex life.

We talk about it constantly.

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HecateAdonaea · 23/06/2012 21:06

oh yes, and excuses -over the last 12 years I have heard them all.

Let me tell you, as each situation is resolved - a new one comes to take its place and always will.

EclecticShock · 23/06/2012 21:07

Talking is good, but talking about it constantly... Probably isn't. What's the outcome, does he find you sexually attractive?