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ListenBeforeJudging · 09/06/2012 22:14

I'm fully expecting a flaming...this will be long.

I've spent many months lurking and reading the posts about all the affairs and suspected affairs and to be honest, it's helped me get over my own hurt. It's not often that the OW perspective is aired and I wanted to just let you all know that we're not all evil home-wreckers. There are always two sides to the story.

I had a male friend at work. We were good friends for quite a long time - nothing more in it. Then one day, out of the blue, he confessed that he'd fallen for me. I was gobsmacked, hadn't seen it coming and immediately distanced myself - I was angry with him as I didn't know what he wanted me to do with that information as a) he was married and b) I'd never thought of him like that.

I had a lot of time invested in our friendship and knew him well (albeit only at work) and knew he wasn't the typical straying type. I considered him a genuine friend so over time we talked it through. He confided that he felt that his marriage had broken down and that he'd been wanting to leave for at least two years (they'd been married for 8, had married young, no kids and it had descended into something platonic). He was terrified of leaving as he knew his wife was still in love with him and would be very hurt. His whole adult life, his family and all his friends were wrapped up with her.

For months we tried to put the situation behind us and carry on as normal but he told me that for the first time, he knew that he had to leave as if was capable of feeling the feelings he had for me there was no way back to fix his marriage.

We became closer and I started to develop feelings for him but still nothing happened between us. Then he told me that he was going to tell her that it was over. I was away and didn't see him for a week and when I came back he said he'd told her that he wanted out and that the 'wheels were in motion'. It was then that our affair began. We fell deeply in love.

With hindsight this was my biggest mistake and greatest regret. Long story short she was devastated, he couldn't go through with the pain he was causing her and for the next two years we had an on/off relationship (while managing somehow to have a consistent friendship) while he tried to extricate himself from the situation.

Then she found out. He cut me out of his life 'temporarily' while he 'sorted things out' (by this point we no longer worked together). I waited 3 months before seeing the light and telling him that it would never happen and that it was over. 4 months after that he left her. It was too late for us. There had been too much pain caused.

He was the love of my life. I still miss our friendship. I've felt the worst pain of my life over this.

My point to this story? I never planned to fall for him although I accept that I made some bad judgements and got in over my head emotionally. I've spent the last two years regretting what happened. I dream about his (now ex) wife often and want nothing more than to contact her to apologise for the part I played in her hurt - but I know that would just be indulgent and of no value to her when she's trying to move on.

My genuine belief is that if all was well in a marriage there would be no reason for a man to find solace/confidantes elsewhere. My advice? Talk about your concerns with your DH - before things get to the point that you can't communicate anymore.

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habbibu · 09/06/2012 22:17

I think if you had suggested that the DH talk to his wife first that might have been more appropriate.

ListenBeforeJudging · 09/06/2012 22:22

Believe me I did. They had couples counselling long before our affair started.

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Pancakeflipper · 09/06/2012 22:24

Some men will have affairs just because they can, are not satisfied with 1 woman. And some women do the same. So I don't agree with your belief that a happy marriage means no affair ever.

This may have been your experience but it's not like an affair rule.

I hope you move on now. You have wasted alot of time on this bloke. I hope his wife moves on too.

P.S. he told you they had a platonic relationship? Oh boy.....

FaceForRadio · 09/06/2012 22:24

i second what habbibu said

Bobyan · 09/06/2012 22:25

OP the world doesn't revolve around you and your feelings and frankly your advice is crap. Get over yourself.
He got to shag you and keep stringing her along and you fell for it, I doubt that has anything to do with how they communicated.

habbibu · 09/06/2012 22:25

I didn't mean that DH. I meant your last sentence, where you advise wives - who may not see anything particularly wrong - to take the initiative, in case their Hs "seek solace".

TheDreadedFoosa · 09/06/2012 22:25

Lol

habbibu · 09/06/2012 22:26

My advice to potential OW? Keep well away. If the H leaves his wife of his own accord in a decent and civilised manner, then it might be an idea to "get closer". Not before.

AnitaManeater · 09/06/2012 22:30

My heart bleeds for you, it really does.

It does not take 2 years to terminate a relationship that you really really do not want to be in. Sounds like a dog with two dicks.

ListenBeforeJudging · 09/06/2012 22:32

I am neither claiming to be an expert nor defending my actions or expecting the 'world to revolve around my feelings'.

I'm merely providing a perspective. Clearly this does not apply to every situation.

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habbibu · 09/06/2012 22:35

Then can I suggest that you simply tell your tale if you feel the need to, but refrain from providing "advice". It just seems in rather poor taste.

AnyFucker · 09/06/2012 22:38

yuk

I was prepared to take your post at face value and listen

then I realised

Pancakeflipper · 09/06/2012 22:39

I don't get why you posted then? Cos' you offer advice in your last paragraphs and generalize why people have affairs into a stereotype.

If you posted because you are feeling wretched and needed to blurt it all out somewhere, that's fair enough but don't hide that as 'advice'

AnyFucker · 09/06/2012 22:41

oh, and how fucking dare you attempt to give advice to women who are being cheated on ?

advise yourself to get some education about why men cheat o their wives

it is very rarely because there is an actual problem with the marriage

the problem is the oh-so-unhappy-and-unfulfilled cheating partner, and the women that lap it up like sponges

Bobyan · 09/06/2012 22:41

Op your perspective is nothing but self-indulgent, self-pity.

and I've no idea what AnyFucker is talking about but she's normally on the money...

Xales · 09/06/2012 22:43

Great advise. Unless you think your relationship is fine and haven't got a clue your H is screwing another woman and not just tired and stressed...

FermezLaBouche · 09/06/2012 22:44

Last paragraph is vile really. If a woman DARES let something be less than perfect in her marriage, then it's only to be expected that some other bird will swoop in and give the poor, neglected man what he's looking for? And I've been the OW. It's SHIT.

MavisRiley · 09/06/2012 22:48

You can't be the OW and moan about getting hurt. You're not the first or last woman to get taken in by a married man with the 'I'm leaving her honest' story. If you're going to take the OW route, not be a home-wrecker and survive the experience you have to be very hard hearted.

shithappensx1000 · 09/06/2012 22:48

Sorry no sympathy from me. You knew he was married, you could have 'walked' away. I read somewhere that the feelings of 'love' are heighten by the secrecy that comes with an affair. So perhaps it wasn't quite as deeply loving as you think. Or if he was even the 'love of your life'. Sorry, but you both acted in a very selfish manner. His wife is the only victim is this situation - NOT YOU!!!

I wonder if you will ever trust another partner now you have been the OW?

Then absolute pain that many of us on these threads have lived through (and are still living through) due affairs will not bring you much sympathy!

mixedberrymilkshake · 09/06/2012 22:52

Thanks for that, I needed a laugh.

PissyDust · 09/06/2012 22:53

Deep breath.

You knew what you were getting involved in and deserve everything that fucker put you and his wife through.

I could rant.

But I won't.

ListenBeforeJudging · 09/06/2012 22:54

I'm neither looking for sympathy nor justifying my behaviour. I know that I behaved badly too.

And on rereading....yes, the last paragraph is badly worded. It's my opinion based on my particular experience (and some others I know about in RL) and not meant to preach or apply to every situation.

I expected the flaming.

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elvisaintdead · 09/06/2012 22:56

I think it would be great if life was black and white but it rarely is. There are lots of reasons why relationships break down. Sometimes infidelity is the reason and sometimes it's a symptom of something else wrong.

I think it's impossible to say that the blame lies solely in one camp in every case - only 2 people know the intimate details of their marriage and why it broke down and all everyone else can do (ow/om included) is speculate and/or accept one persons version.

I don't however subscribe to the common view that ALL cheaters and cheatees are bad evil people - everyone is human and sometimes everyone makes errors of judgement or does things that with hindsight they realise they could have done differently.

OP you write a very honest post but perhaps the patronising tone will not go down ever so well.

AnyFucker · 09/06/2012 22:57

There is a thread started on MN today

by an ex-OW

who is reduced to judging her cheating partner's current actions on how he treated his exW when he left her, for her

she has to make "educated" guesses about he is going to act now wrt to child support and how badly he will behave post-discovery

that is one fucking shit position to be in

but she ain't tring to excuse or "explain" it like you are, for her it's "fair cop, guv"

shithappensx1000 · 09/06/2012 22:57

Was it a satisfying 'relationship'?
Will you trust another partner?
Have you meant his wife since she discovered the affair?
How could you do that to yourself and another human being?

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