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men do confuse love and sex

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simplesimon · 03/11/2003 10:44

Sneaking out of the shadows I suppose I am asking the Dads something although I can see it is a topic that has been covered before.

I love my wife she loves me but we have not made love in 6 years.

I think what scares me is the idea that she does not fancy me. More than that perhaps she is seeing someone else.

Help.

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lavender1 · 05/12/2003 16:05

Crikey, I wasn't trying to change the subject at all, but at the time it seemed like another option to pursue. If anyone wants to discuss astrology and relationships then it could cause stir but it is all good fun. It's certainly not good to assume that you will be like the person your sun sign suggests, all that does is supposedly tell you what face you give to the outside world, your inner you is your moon sign and completely different...ie. if you're a leo for example, then you're supposed to have a very sunny disposition, very warm and generous person..People can scoff, but I mix with a few leos and they are generally like this...some signs are supposedly finding it harder to show emotion, wont give examples as every one individuals and need full chart and the person with all their life experiences(these contribute to your disposition as well as upbringing!)...It's just that certain signs go really well together..look at Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones, who have both exactly the same birthday, yet 25 years apart..they are alike...and one of my good friends is an Aries, her husband is 5 days younger than her, also an Aries and she says that they can tell what one another is thinking, and stuff...I seriously don't believe it is just a coincidence...

If you don't believe me there are plenty of star sign books in the bookshops/ libraries which go into this...fire attracts fire, water puts out the fire and things...anyway I've said quite a bit, it's just an interest that has developed over the years...has anyone had their chart done? princess di did that's how I got mine, a freeby in the Mail (her astrologer)..It's great to talk, if this conversation not to liking then nothing lost.

august24 · 05/12/2003 16:13

No, I am totally interested in astrology, I have had my chart done and my spouses and it was just really crazy how much really rang true. I just though maybe you knew more about relationship astrolgy. Sorry if I offended!

niknik · 05/12/2003 16:13

Lavender I am a lovely Leo and DH is Capricorn is that compatible

lavender1 · 05/12/2003 17:53

NikNik, not offended in the least, know a little about relationship astrology, just wanted to give a bit of groundwork first (ie. some people think astrology is tosh, was just testing the waters). Please talk more, very interesting subject.

lavender1 · 05/12/2003 18:02

Sorry, August24 got names muddled, long week!, do you find that you are compatible with your dw, niknik, the write up of leos and capricorns isn't bad, put it that way.It does say that you both need to cut a dash and command respect, so work hard to create image of the perfect couple. But then it says it may be different behind the scenes, with the Leo sometimes feeling sidelined by the Capricorn's workaholic tendencies and thier emotional reserve..Not sure about last bit as daughter is Capricorn and talks about feelings, but know leos are very emotional people and some aren't comfortable with too much drama, present company not included.

lavender1 · 05/12/2003 18:05

I mean dh!

Clarinet60 · 06/12/2003 13:57

I'm a leo

lavender1 · 07/12/2003 00:44

Does anyone really believe this astrology stuff? Why should leos be the only ones who are warm and generous,(ie. lots of people can be warm if like warmth...have to think it's a little unreal unless you do the whole chart, ie. if your moon sign is a fire sign then you could be more like that than your water sun sign! Would be interested to hear comments of personality from leos, to see if are like normal leos? Any pisceans on board? Perhaps subject should be do you typify your star sign? ie. are pisceans drea y, unwordly creatures who are indecisive....pisceans can also be fiery so where does that take us? Any expert astrologers out there? Sharon Stone is a piscean as is Cindy Crawford, are they indecisive, don't think so, both very successfull and beautiful people, comments appreciated..

lavender1 · 07/12/2003 23:27

hello, I can see from lack of replies that perhaps previous subject should continue!, or maybe a how to improve your relationship, when you've been together years would be good. Perhaps not wifeswap, but a Kilroy session maybe good!

norma · 07/12/2003 23:45

well, I'm a saggitarian and I think I am pretty typical really!!!

mammya · 07/12/2003 23:50

I think if you want to discuss astrology you should start a new thread as people who might be interested in astrology might not see this. Also you're highjacking this thread really...

lavender1 · 08/12/2003 00:04

hello, august24 suggested starting a new thread, maybe SS, wanted someone else to take lead...only so much of your private life you can discuss with people you don't know, do you want to continue the thread with own details? Perhaps new thread would give ss a break, anyone else got relationship probs we can discuss?

lavender1 · 08/12/2003 00:07

Norma, what makes you a typical Saggitarian? And Mammya what sign are you? let's discuss what wants to be discussed, all ears here!

norma · 08/12/2003 00:10

Hi Lavender, I don't mind discussing it her, but I've just started another thread with you as consultant as I don't really know a lot about astrology. Obviously I know about my own sign. But I think most people know their own star sign traits.

lavender1 · 08/12/2003 00:17

what's the new thread?

norma · 08/12/2003 00:19

lol!! look down the board a few lines:
Do you match your star sign (consultant=Lavender1)

norma · 08/12/2003 00:22

down the active conversations board!

lavender1 · 08/12/2003 00:39

Yes, but most of chart not water so not like this...As SS, has obviously moved away trying to sort his problems out, he might return, will be glad to chat if he does...then other things could be discussed...as this a relationship site what do we talk about?

lavender1 · 08/12/2003 00:47

Lol, am not consultant, just very open-minded trying to look at the big picture with SS probs, any other ideas good here..If people think astrology is not worth pursuing with this current problem then please find other answers to problem, chat away...nice to talk about these things!

lavender1 · 01/02/2004 00:27

don't want to get too personal but just wondered Simple Simon if things are going well for you at this moment...sincerely hope so, if you don't fancy e-mailing then don't worry...all the best to you and your dw

Dreams · 01/02/2004 18:42

I have just read all this thread i know i am way behind cause it all started in November but if i must say so myself it is all very confusing!!
WAs wondering how Simon was getting on now if he is still living the same life and just putting up with it or actually trying to do do something about it!?

simplesimon · 02/02/2004 11:05

Hi

the long and the short is our relationship is terrible, if anything worse than before, and I'm currently looking for a way out that hurts as few people as little as possible. One possibility that I considered for a while was killing myself or just vanishing, but I am too much of a coward for either.

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Janstar · 02/02/2004 11:13

SS, killing yourself is not going to be painless for anyone, though it might save you yourself from having to clear up the debris of your marriage. I am sure you would see the lack of logic in this plan if someone else were planning to do it.

A separation is bound to be a difficult thing, and if you really feel it is the best answer you must face that fact and simply try to effect it as reasonably as you can. Your son needs his dad and even if you are not living under the same roof he must be your first priority. He will not have a better time if you are dead.

simplesimon · 02/02/2004 11:15

Like I said, I'm too much of a coward anyway, just as I've been too much of a coward so far to leave.

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